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Len Cnut

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  1. 9 minutes ago, action said:

    yeah I guess It's come to something when someone who refuses to go past the 90s lectures someone who refuses to go past the 50s :lol:.

    so yeah, compared to you, I guess you could call me a modernist :lol: 

     

    See therein lies the issue, I’m way past the 90s, I could go on at length about 50 Cent, Eminem, hip hop in general pre and post 90s, Grime, Garage etc etc etc but who’d listen on a forum full of metallers? :lol:  I could talk about Sleaford Mods or Mike Skinner or Tempa T or Wiley but someone around here would have to know who they are first :lol: 

  2. 3 minutes ago, action said:

    they are an absolute phenomenon, almost identifiying them with a whole nation. I see "the toppers" I see dutch attitude, partying, laughing, having a good time. it's one of the most purest examples of music directly stemming from a base culture, it basically advertises itself. 

    I never thought I’d see the day where you’d be lecturing me on modernism :lol: 

  3. 2 minutes ago, action said:

    on the contrary my dear watson, that must be the single most uplifting performance I ever seen. that's something else than the granny music from the 50s, which my granddad is humming along to, with his pipe and dangling his knee

    And thats modern is it?  I had to google the wankers to find out who they were, Europop/disco?  Welcome to 1972 :lol:  

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  4. Just now, action said:

    motley crue, AC/DC, the rolling stones, guns n roses, metallica..... their music comes alive in a stadium setting. fire, confetti, strippers, madness, moshpits...

    you know, there was music made after 1959, you're aware of that yes? :P

    Rock n Roll ain’t fuckin’ Coca Cola sponsored bullshit, its played in cavernous dives and bars and clubs, stadiums are for selling hot dogs.

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  5. Just now, DieselDaisy said:

    Why should the public be asked to sing - Rose did with Heaven's Dawawa also? I'm the paying customer. You're the singer. You sing the song you lazy wanker. 

    Thank you, this ain’t a 1940s pub :lol: 

    1 minute ago, soon said:

    He looks like an Easter Egg after he takes his blazer off. And did he wear knee pads?

    He’d better have the way he did those jumps onto his knees.

  6. 2 minutes ago, action said:

    that's not difficult to answer. the various sing along interactions with the public. elvis never did that.

    Stadiums are cold impersonal, there’s no such thing as stadium rock n roll, not really.

  7. 3 minutes ago, action said:

    I've watched it two days ago, as a matter of fact. 

    great, great performance.

    but there is certain sadness and loneliness in his eyes. I see a clear invisible wall between Elvis and the exctatic crowd full of cheering ladies. that was no rock n roll audience, and I can't honestly feel how Elvis felt at home there

    Well how the hell is Freddie Mercury (or anyone for that matter?) into it on a stadium stage?

    1 minute ago, action said:

    the diego maradona of rock n roll

    I posted Pele up there!

  8. 5 minutes ago, action said:

    he seems like a different person than vegas and beyond. not really sure what made him go from this, to being insecure about his stage performance

    I dunno, I think he looked exstatic in 69, just happy to be on the job and really belting em out, just watch Thats The Way It Is, does the bloke performing Suspicious Minds there look to you like he’s not into it?

  9. 1 minute ago, action said:

    I own the "live 1969" box by presley, which is 11 or something consecutive shows at vegas, at his absolute "prime" when returning to performing. there is no doubting the quality of the singing, but presley is clearly going through the motions. These 11 shows are near copy pastes of each other, jokes and banter included! I honestly don't see a freddie mercury offering this assembly line level performance. There is hardly spontaneity, if any, and this is when he was fresh back to performing. The singing is great, after all this is elvis we're talking about, but there are much better entertainers, even now.

    Elvis, 1956, thats what its all about.  

     

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  10. 7 minutes ago, action said:

    had a little bit too much of wife beater though

    I don’t care, none of my business, he could shag his Mum for all I care, I’m just in it for the tunes.

     

    3 minutes ago, action said:

    presley could move a crowd, but he wasn't a born entertainer. he couldn't handle the success and needed medication to function on stage as evidenced by his rising drug abuse when he returned to performing. he was a nervous wreck, as evidenced by the "on tour" documentary.

    kurt cobain, another example of a performer who certainly moved a crowd, but wasn't a born performer: he too, could not handle the success.

    a natural born performer, loves to perform, and feeds off of the cheers of the crowd and doesn't need medication of drugs to come through.

    it's great that elvis did what he did, of course, but at what cost? it totally ruined him.

    Again, I don’t care whether they enjoyed it or not, thats their lookout.  I don’t think that has a bearing on how great they perform, you’ve got to realise that for all of em, on some level, its a job.

     

     

  11. 1 minute ago, action said:

    not as good as freddie, son

     

    Controlling a crowd with shit taste ain’t hard, Robbie Williams can do that :lol: 

    1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said:

    Yes but James Brown is on a whole other level. I have him (just) above Presley.

    I am the last person on earth to ever argue for anyone over James Brown.  

  12. 8 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

    I like Morrison but come on! James Brown. 

    I mean in terms of ‘crowd in the palm of his hand’ kinda way.  Take Live at the Apollo, he works em like crazy there, probably the greatest example of that shit I’ve ever seen.  But then what The Doors did with The End or When The Musics Over, with the different dynamics of the song and the way they like...controlled the vibe of the crowd, its up there.  Maybe not equivalent but certainly up there.  

  13. 2 hours ago, Powderfinger said:

    And a killer voice to boot...

    This is a killer gig.... Jim’s just the right side of fucked up, Kriegers guitar tone is brilliant, and Ray and John are driving the whole thing. 

    The Doors are my “if there was a time machine” band. I’d loved to have seen them live. 

    Oh he was something else.  He was the first proper confrontational lead singer with a sort of a live theatrical performance, at once charming and antagonistic.  Even when he wasn’t on 100% form vocally he had a certain charisma that just made it so he could pull it off.  They thought he was a drunken mess, which he kinda was but it was deliberate, he was a champion shit-stirrer.

    And when he was proper on it he could work a crowd like anyone, I put him right up there with James Brown in that respect, he could bring an ampitheatre to stony silence followed by riotous noise, pure class.

    2 minutes ago, lame ass security said:

    Yeah man, those guys were brilliant. They had differing styles and influences which only made the mix better and more interesting. Ray was steeped in the blues but could play anything, John had that jazz tinge, and Robbie with that flamenco style. So eclectic and cool. Then you throw in Jimbo who happened to be a genius savant with looks and charisma to burn. Plus he really was a great singer, he doesn't get enough credit for that. 

    He was a massive Sinatra fan.  

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  14. 4 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

    Still, the main reason why "[pedo is] the go to thing people mention when you say Belgians" is because you Brits tend to think in stereotypes, and the reason why this particular stereotype has been built is the Marc Dutroux case and other high-profile Belgian pedophilia cases, as Evan said. 

    I think maybe its cuz we joke a lot...and for a joke to work it has to address a commonly held belief. 

  15. 1 minute ago, SoulMonster said:

    I didn't mean to say stereotypes are specific to Britain and that only Brits use them, I meant to say that you seem to think more in stereotypes than other people I know.

    My comment wasn't to suggest that lots of people think Belgians are pedos or the Welsh actually rape sheep, it was just a pithy humourous comment I heard and I was wondering as to the root of it, just a passing curiosity rather than a sweeping declaration that vast swathes of the British public believed that shit :lol:

  16. 2 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

    Suggests that you don't tend to think in stereotypes?

    No, it suggests that its not something specific to England, I mean a stereotype is by definition a commonly held belief (one that is sort unmalleable and lazy), stereotypes are what they are because a lot of people think that way, I’m pretty sure if you look it up in the dictionary it doesn’t say ‘commonly held belief by English cunts’ :lol: 

  17. On 9/25/2020 at 9:02 PM, lame ass security said:

    Took a week to cut that album, sometimes it's best just to go in and do it. Let it roll.

    See the thing there is that you had 3 incredible musicians, they rarely faltered even playing live. On the other hand you got a bloke who wrote lyrics for fun and probably had a stockpile you could fill a barnyard with.  When he wasn't drinking til he pissed his pants :lol:

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