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31 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Ron Anderson on Axl, interview from 2019 (for those who haven't read it):

Fast-forward a few months later, and Anderson is talking to MusicRadar about his Voixtek website and app – which offers the same kind of wisdom that turned Kennedy into one of rock’s most recognisable singers to users around the world. It’s arguably the most technically and scientifically insightful vocal tuition source in existence.

“I’ve worked with so many people,” smiles Anderson, chatting via Skype video. “But I have to say Axl Rose’s voice is amazing, truly one of a kind. I’ve changed hundreds of singers in terms of tone and technique over the years, though he definitely tops the list. I was there for a lot of the classic Guns N’ Roses years and tours, which was pretty wild!”

The renowned vocal coach is joined by Dr Juan Pérez who added his own anatomically insightful observations to Anderson’s findings over decades of vocal instruction to some of the biggest stars in the world, from Ozzy Osbourne, Seal and Alicia Keys to Tom Cruise.

“There is just no-one else like Axl,” agrees Pérez, noting how the Guns N’ Roses frontman combined a number of Ron’s techniques into his own inimitable style. Together the pair explain the story behind Voixtek and how new technology is aiding them in offering unparalleled tuition to those in seek of it.

https://www.musicradar.com/news/vocal-coach-to-the-stars-ron-anderson-and-dr-juan-perez-tell-the-story-behind-voixtex-their-groundbreaking-mobile-and-vr-singing-training-system

Thank you. I never read this before. I knew he would not be horrified. 

2 hours ago, Pele said:

It depends what the goal was really.

If, like you suggested, it was to ensure Rose completed the tour without losing his voice, then yes I suppose.

Other than that, apart from ACDC, he surely was horrified in what he was hearing onstage.

Horrified? Ron Anderson sounds like he was proud of Axl and I’ve never heard him say much of anything about Axl at all, which speaks volumes to his professionalism. I doubt any vocal coach would be horrified by what Axl Rose sings. 

1 hour ago, Ralphelmo said:

YET HE DID MUCH FOR MICKEY, HAHAHAHAHAH!!111!1 

 

YOURE SO FUNNY! !!1

Mickey is pretty tough in South Park. You need to find a different scause than me. 

9 hours ago, MYWIFEMYLIFE said:

he was  the best in what he did, and loved by literally everyone. 

 

Well, he didn’t do much for Myles. 

On 12/14/2021 at 5:55 PM, LandOla said:

Fuck it if it's audio only

For real. 

5 hours ago, Coma16 said:

I saw an interesting discussion on the FB group about unnumbered lithos (for ones that are from a numbered set, which is basically 90%+). Unsure if the person deleted the thread but I find it interesting information especially for amature collectors who are new to the scene.

Are they extras, reprints, fakes, artist prints (which GNR don't seem to do), or possibly just got missed but still sold at the booths?

Nobody knows for certain but some assholes take it as they are the authority on GNR lithos. 

1 hour ago, Draguns said:

Well Axl did sell his publishing rights to Sanctuary. Universal acquired Sanctuary.

That’s what I thought, too. For 19 million. Lol. And now his ex manager is the guy acquiring a lot of these catalogs. Looks like Axl was dead wrong about Merck.

On 11/27/2021 at 5:55 AM, Towelie said:

I get the impression his constant talking up of Bucket/Robin is more a slight against Ron than anything else. 

I always think Fortus comes off like a total prick in interviews. 

I think Fortus means that the 3 guitar idea didn’t add to the band at all. Plus, Ron was a bit of an irritation to the band without having the credibility. 

I read an article the Motley Crue sold their musical catalogue for 150$ million. Surely, GNR is 200$ million.

13 hours ago, Rayno said:

I am not saying Matt's book is a great read but this is too harsh.

I think the poster is spot on.

On 10/15/2020 at 2:01 AM, Towelie said:

Seasons 1, 2, 4 and 7 were good-great

Seasons 3, 5 and 6 were weak. 

Season 8 was visual assault punishable only by death. 

This.

7 hours ago, GoBucky said:

Haha...Sweet Child was played because they did a tour with Motley for a month? Sweet Child was released 7 months after that tour, and the band was already on the brink of completely blowing up. Jungle was played every hour on MTV at that point. 

I’m pretty sure Axl was thanking Niki for giving the band exposure at a time when Motley Crue was huge. 

On 11/6/2021 at 2:39 PM, gnfnrs1972 said:

Because they can sell out stadiums without 4 other bands on the bill.

That tour is going to be shit with Vince.

5 hours ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

The new season started last Sunday.  Since those that crazy guy shot off those missals most of the people are separated again. Strand has made a new society and he's in one of the best places so far.

The rest of the survivors are just trying to stay alive.  The world was bad enough before, now it's really bad.

It’s post, post apocalyptic. I like this direction. 

On 10/28/2021 at 8:22 AM, Stress Fracture said:

You’ve got to be in a certain state of mind to make Perfect Crime work. He’s not in that state nowadays and that’s fine, honestly.

100% correct. 

23 hours ago, B5Redeye said:

Shot in the dark but….

if you have an extra 2016 Atlanta one please let me know.

There has been one on eBay for 300$ for a week now. Sold the other day for 250$

5 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Yes, they have their own projects to go to and write the way they want to.

Axl and Slash/Duff have been used to working in very different ways. Axl likely hasn't written in the "traditional" or so called "organic" way (or at least by "sitting as a band" and jamming) since the Illusions. He probably wrote some things on his own or with Tobias and, other than that, he mostly operated like a producer, having the members send him tapes of what they'd done, giving directions on how this or that part should be changed and then crafting songs by combining parts. That's how CD was created.

So, although I was hoping for at least one new song, I'm not surprised to hear that they haven't even gotten in the process of trying to write something new together. Maybe they are all afraid of it.

The big 3 have not written a song since 1989-90, so I would say that there is some fear involved in the lack of recording new material. 

6 hours ago, Powderfinger said:

Axl had a great voice, he was musically talented, he wrote some great lyrics. But he’s one of dozens. I love GnR and it wouldn’t be it without him. But he’s a singer in a rock n roll band, there was almost 30 years of it before him. What did Axl do that others didn’t? Even fucking off for a few years under mysterious circumstances had been done by Brian Wilson. Brilliant as GnR were in their hey day, they were Zeppelin for the 80s. (Better than in my opinion, but that’s not a popular opinion). 
 

Axls voice soundtracked a generation but so did and, have many others. His lyrics are interesting, but so were Jim Morrison’s. What he’s done had been done before. 

You think GNR are a better band than Zeppelin?

8 hours ago, Gambit83 said:

For those who don't have the time to listen. Views/subscriptions on YouTube are still encouraged  

 

I heard someone on here say you don’t ask enough GNR rebated questions, but there is always cool and unusual bits of information from these podcasts. If you compiled all the cool and unheard information you have gleamed from your guests about GNR I would more than say you’re doing great adding to the repository of GNR knowledge. 

Perfect length. 

18 hours ago, Coma16 said:

Definitely beautiful colours, but that seems to have contributed to how delicate these ones are. Seems like they are scuffed up by the time you get home from the show...

I haven’t seen a gem mint Columbus as of yet because of the fragility of the darker areas of the new lithos. But, I think the change was needed and appreciated by me.

18 hours ago, Kylewhodat said:

Were you in a coma for 2016? 

I believe this leg is consistently better than 2016 US lithos. 

6 hours ago, estrangedtwat said:

Well another leg of the never ending tour has come and gone. Frankly I'm surprised they got through it with the way lockdowns are coming back, but enough of that shit...we got a brand new crop of lithos to discuss!  And I for think this is the best batch in a long time!  Certainly better than the 2019 series which was clearly running out of gas.

Lots of them took inspiration from movies, and I'm OK with that cause I love movies and I love GNR...what could go together better?

I'm gonna list just a few that I thought were awesome...I'm taking pics from amaninjapan's amazing blog "lithorati" of course....your number one stop for everything you ever wanted to know about GNR lithos but were afraid to ask.....

First up is Detroit.

I'm a child of the 80s and RoboCop is one of my favorite movies of all time and favorite characters.  What a match made in 1980s heaven....GNR and RoboCop!!

An added bonus is the "homemade" airbrushed look like you'd see on the back of a jean jacket at a county fair.  There's no nice way to say this....it just screams WHITE TRASH and I love it!   Love the subtle GNR references too, like GNR replacing the OCP logo from the movie.  It's so bright and garish and 1980s.  Love it...my favorite!

 

 

Next is Missoula, from the undisputed king of GNR lithos, Mr. Arian Buhler himself.  He stands head and shoulders above all other litho artists for good reason...dude is just a beast!

It's a gorgeous rendition of the rotting remains of Evel Knievel in his trademark stars n' stripes helmet.  Now I don't think I'd wanna hang it on my wall and have it be the first thing I see every morning when waking up, but the draftsmanship is impeccable.

 

 

Next one just kind of speaks for itself....Hollywood!!  Take one of the single most iconic movie posters of all time, and make it a GNR poster.   What do you get?  Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown.   Absolutely lovely and the colors are gorgeous.  Hats off once again to the one and only Arian Buhler.  This one should appeal to both music and movie collectors cause it's a given that the Chinatown movie poster is probably in the top ten of all time.

 

 

And now, one of the most flat out fun, whimsical, and just plain CUTE lithos on this leg or ANY leg going all the way back to 2016.....the St. Paul "Peanuts" tribute.  If you don't think this is adorable, you need a hug.

Slash's goofy signature Charles Schultz grin, Duff not giving a fuck on bass, and Axl as Shroeder in deep concentration on the keys, with his motorcycle/piano hybrid.   I love it.  I just love it.  It's 100% FUN, the way rock concerts and posters should be!  And it really stands out in a sea of skull imagery!!  What a winner!  (And again...Buhler is the man!)

 

Next up is a delightful mish-mash of some cool styles....Baltimore.   Obviously inspired by Edgar Allan Poe and the Raven, you get a three headed raven in the forefront representing GNR's "big three" but I also love the Ralph Steadman inspired font for the logo, and I'm a sucker for anything to do with Estranged, my all time favorite GNR song, supposedly being written out in fancy script by hand by the corpse of our pal Poe.  It's a little bit busy, but I still like it and it's unique enough to stand out from the rest.

 

And last but not least, I like the double spread from Hollywood.....FLORIDA?  The fuck, there's a Hollywood in Florida now??

Anyway, these two lithos don't really break any new ground....but they do the job.   Fun, big, bold, exciting, gets the point across.  What I'd consider a solid "B +" rock poster.  Something you'd like having hanging on your wall after the show.  Giant GNR robots are fun....almost a 70s throwback thing.   That's all really, I just think they were well executed and I like 'em!

 

 

 

So how'sabout you, fellow litho fanatics?  Agree, disagree, have your own radically different opinions?

 

I agree with all your points. This is the best leg for US lithos so far. And the colors are beautiful.  I’m really looking forward to Europe. 

On 10/7/2021 at 12:45 PM, downzy said:

The ad that finally got most Slash haters to stop calling Slash a sell-out.  

Slash isn’t even real. He’s just a Dutch fairytale. 

On 10/5/2021 at 2:59 PM, mikeman5150 said:

That’s one of the four I don’t have framed yet.  Along with MetLife, Hershey 17’, and DC 17’. I’ll probably get some more frames this weekend and I’ll get a pic of it

Would you sale DC 2016?

8 hours ago, Axl S said:

It's the most interesting the band has been since 2016. The reunion has had some clear phases.

NITL Part 1: OH MY GOD SLASH AND DUFF ARE BACK (16-17)
NITL Part 2: Appetite Boxset, Some small setlist changes, oh this acoustic version of Move to the City is intersting I guess (18-19)
F'n Everything has F'n in it: Lockdown silence and WTF SILKWORMS IS BACK?! (2020-Present)

We'll see what happens now. The reunion wow factor is definitely over and they pumped the AFD nostalgia well dry. Maybe they do something big for Illusions but they already play all the Illusions songs people want to hear. They either tour on the novelty of just existing for the next 2 years or they release more shit.

The F’N was kinda lame. It was in most of the lithos. Made them tacky.