beautifulanddamned

Did they not hire the best people in the business so that this shit doesn't happen? Too cheap? Is Fernando their sound guy?

-or-

 That stadium was half full, just play a smaller venue with better acoustics you dummies!

1 minute ago, koldweather said:

He gave it a good go to be fair, still get the feeling though that he was right on the edge of his voice just going totally though during the last few songs, but he powered through it!

I bet he couldn't sing much after PC though if he needed to, that was a voice buster type effort.

Not just Axl- that was the best paced PC I've heard in a while.

Just now, AFGnR said:

Show over at 9.55 pm local time. 

That actually was a decent PC.  

1 minute ago, Tori72 said:

You mean that subdued passion?  Yeah  

Would you be passionate about this performance?

1 minute ago, Stress Fracture said:

The 7:20 start for this show was a weird decision. At this rate Paradise City will be in daylight.

That is weird.

4 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

What? Why? 

Because this is a crowd that does not give a fuck . 

I'm enjoying the Germans immensely.

1 minute ago, Endless2404 said:

Maybe, at least that's what i think

 

That link really shows how empty that stadium is. WTH?

For some reason (maybe because there isn't much to hide the vocals), when November Rain starts, more than any other song, I think, "Come on Axl,  you can do it! Concentrate, try harder, do whatever you have to do just nail this one song!" 

It never works, obviously.

But I always hope like a damn fool.

The crowd reaction to SCOM always makes me smile.

Alright! Axl's struggling of course, but Slash sounds great.

Just now, Jeez said:

Im at the gig. Axl sounds terrible tonight, even live (which imo usually makes it slightly better). Its a Slash shpw tonight.

Hope your still enjoying it- Slash Show is the best show

Admittedly, TIL is a little rough. But it's TIL, so who cares.

They all look great, Axl sounds exactly the same way he has for the last two years, which is fine. Didn't expect him to age in reverse the last six months. I wish they would have just played a smaller venue.

Sound good enough that I can hear Slash killing it! 

I hope the sound is better than we are hearing, because, Jesus the echo is brutal.

3 minutes ago, Georgina Arriaga said:

And this is good because he is Izzy, right? You have mention the very reason why some people think he is unreliable. See?

He wants to reach Axl so badly that is beyond pathetic.....

Did I say it was good? 

I think every relationship Izzy has is 100 percent on Izzy’s terms. He’ll show up when and if he wants to show up, he’ll call or write when and if he wants to call or write. Take it or leave it.

Audiences need to be undiscerning to a certain extent. How many bands have all their original (or classic) members?  I guess you could go see Aerosmith and Poison and U2 on a loop.  I'd rather pay to see 3/5 of GNR than 4/4 members of U2.   

5 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

Here's a sad piece of truth: Many if not all GNR fans want either Izzy and/or Steven/Matt/Gilby instead of Frank and Fortus there. But MOST of those people will still go to the shows because it's not worth missing out on seeing Axl and Slash and 3/5 of GNR just because those are missing. So guess what happens when those poor fans buy tickets to shows and GNR get their money? They WIN. They have WON. The band gets away with it.

Bringing up things like "the shows are all sold out" or whatever as an argument that most people don't care if all those aforementioned people are replaced by nobodys like Frank or Fortus is straight up erroneous. Yes those ex members won't move many more tickets for GNR because like 90% of all the people who want those people there end up going still. Very sad situation for people like us.

Exactly. It's not just the casuals who don't care about the line-up outside of Axl and Slash. I'm an Izzy nutswinger , and I acknowledge the fact that I screwed him over when I bought a ticket in 2016. A lot of us kick and scream about it but most of us bought wildly overpriced tickets anyway and that is literally all that matters. You vote with your wallet, not your comments on a message board. The mass of business people behind this reunion understood from the beginning that it would happen that way.  GNR INC isn't about producing music, or regaining respect or making fans happy. It's about making money. We can bitch and moan about the line-up and the setlist and no new music, but if you bought a ticket or a t-shirt or a litho, then you are giving your unqualified approval to the band and the machine has won.

I'm not altogether sure that the Appetite 5 together on tour would be any more profitable then another round of the NITL line-up. It's the holy grail for most of us, but the average person buying stadium tickets doesn't care who the drummer and rhythm guitarist are. 

Axl and Slash deserve more than anyone else, but Izzy deserved what Duff was getting. I honestly don't believe that Duff has any more name recognition than Izzy.