US Politics/Elections Thread in ANYTHING GOES Posted Saturday at 03:10 AM 12 hours ago, downzy said: I felt it went the other way. Biden started out strong but faded the second half. His best areas were at the beginning of the debate on covid and healthcare. Both candidates did poorly on the issues of race. It's sad that discussion of black americans almost always gets framed around the issue of criminality. On the issue of fracking and oil/gas, I know conservatives and Republicans want to believe that this will somehow hand Pennsylvania to Trump. But the reality is there's really no oil in Pennsylvania, and fracking is actually opposed by a (slim) majority of people living in the state. The western part of Pennsylvania is very pro natural gas, but those voters were going to vote for Trump anyway. Trump likely helped himself mobilize some of these voters who might have helped himself, I guess there's that. But it's a caricature of the state to believe that a candidate needs to be in love with fracking to win. The current Democratic Governor Tom Wolf ran on a green-energy platform that called for the state to move away from fracking. I honestly didn't think the moderator did a great job. She let Trump continue to walk all over her, especially at the end of each statement. There were several times she would let Trump change the topic, press Biden, and then force Biden to answer. She gets points because Trump chose to adhere more to the rules because he was coached to do so. I didn't see her do anything all that different from the previous two moderators. You're just contradicting me! I was surprised Biden said outright they need to completely phase out oil. Obviously that's the future I was just suprised he said it clearly but talk is cheap. But yeah Regarding the moderator, you're right, she just did much better than that complete dipshit from Fox is what I'm saying. He was mindblowingly bad.