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  1. I truly believe we are getting this 'new' music. And why not, really? I know, Axl this, Axl that, but remember we've got Silkworms as their first release together since 94. Motherfucking Silkworms :facepalm::lol: You can't make that shit up. Getting things like Soulmonster or The General is not so farfetched after that, even for GNR.

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  2. 2 hours ago, HollyWoodRose84 said:

    How hot is it down there? Axl is wearing a jacket and a scarf. Fashion > comfort 

    To be fair it's a pretty windy venue by the river. And for Portugal standards it's kinda cold for this time of the year.

    Last week was hot af but Axl always brings bad weather with him when he's performing over here 😂 Hopping not to get the Axl/DC storm again :nervous:

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  3. 8 hours ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said:

    The internet has done a lot of good, and it's done a lot of bad. But one of the worst things it's done is produce toxic fandom. 

    Unfettered access to their favorite artists, alongside likeminded people across the world who gather together in forums and on social media, has turned people into savage little entitled beasts. There's a lot things blown out of proportion, a lot of conjecture and, primarily, a fundamental misunderstanding as to what's going on here and who is owed what. Let me clear it up:

    This is a rock n' roll band and no one is owed anything.

    Think about that. Axl Rose is a 59 year old man playing in a rock n' roll band with his buddies and playing music he finds interesting. If it's not to your liking, then that's fine. I don't like everything a band (or this band in particular) releases either. But I take it for what it is: a guy wrote a song that I don't like. He's not forcing me to buy it. He's not tainting my childhood memories. He's not taking money from me. He can't possibly ruin something I love, because it's *NOT MINE.* It's his! 

    Think about any other business - a restaurant, for example. If they change the menu and I don't like it...no one cares. I don't get on an internet message board and call the chef a fat cunt who is lazy and doesn't care about his clientele (and if I did, I'd be *INSANE*). If enough people agree with me, then business will slow, and the restaurant will either make a decision to change or fold up. But, if I don't like the new menu, but thousands and thousands of other people do...then it's just time for me to admit that the world doesn't revolve around me and to find a new restaurant.

    With regards to his live performances: "well he doesn't care and he's ripping the fans off." No. Perhaps, and this might shock some of you, he's doing his best and this is the best he can do right now. Maybe his voice just isn't there right now. Here's the misunderstanding: when you buy a concert ticket, you are not buying a ticket to a flawless performance. You are buying a ticket to see the performer, as they are, performing the songs the way they want to perform them. That's what they're selling - a live take on their music. Whether you find the quality sufficient enough is irrelevant - if you don't like the performance, don't buy a ticket. Your money will talk. If you choose to spend money and buy a ticket and Axl's voice isn't to your liking then, honestly, it's no different than "I ordered the steak and it wasn't as good as I'd like."

    "Well he's not in as good shape as he could be/he needs to try harder." He doesn't have to do anything. Again - you're buying a ticket for Guns N' Roses *as they are.* I used to bartend full time. Now I bartend one night a week. I *could* take the time and still practice making cocktails, or learning new ones, and continue to hone my craft. But, honestly, I don't want to. I know enough to do my job. People still show up to the bar and have a good time. And if people don't like that, then, frankly, they can find another bar. Same thing goes with the Guns shows. By the way - for all the vocal geniuses on here who swore that Axl's weight was impacting his vocal performance - he's in better shape now than he was for the Axl DC and 2016 shows, but his voice isn't. So next time some genius tells you that Axl would sound better if he spent his life crushing chicken and broccoli and on the treadmill, remember that.

    "The setlists are too static, this is the same old boring show we've seen" - it's the same old boring show *you've* seen because we're diehards on a fan message board who follow every show. The amount of 'us' in the audience night-to-night is so miniscule it would shock you. The average concert goer at a Guns N' Roses show is someone who likes their music - probably from the first few albums - and just wants to see a rock show. They don't care if Guns played the same set in Hershey as they did in Fenway - they're experiencing the show for the first time. Or if it's not their first time, they're going to see the show because it's not about hearing all fresh material - it's about the live experience, hearing the songs live, watching the band perform them, and just feeling the vibe. Great songs don't depreciate over time - that's why we're here listening to songs from 1987 still. 

    If I go see Hamilton on Broadway and then, two years later, I see it when it's touring DC, I don't complain because they didn't write a new third act. I'm not complaining if Lin Manuel Miranda doesn't sing quite as well as he did in New York. I'm there to experience that show.

    I also get the impression from reading these boards that quite a bit of fans who post here are in their teens or 20s, which is honestly pretty cool. Some of you have mentioned that you got into the band after Chinese Democracy, which is pleasantly surprising to me. Unfortunately, a lot of you clamoring for new music don't get that this band is firmly a legacy act at this point: they could release the greatest album of the last 30 years and the world will collectively shrug and say "it's not bad...now play Sweet Child O' Mine."

    We, the diehard fans, want to hear Hard School and any other new tunes the band might have. Just understand that, when they pull it out, 85-90% of the crowd isn't going to give a flying fuck. Of those 85-90%, if the band can get maybe 10-20% of them to be interested enough to check out the new material, then that's a win. That's the reality here. So when you're bitching about how the band doesn't give a fuck about its fans, understand that you're likely incorrect: they give a fuck about the majority of the fans there to see the show. That's why they're playing the hits. That's why This I Love and Coma and Locomotive are expendable but You Could Be Mine and Nightrain are untouchable. They know their audience.

    "Team Brazil are evil/incompetent." You don't know these people. I'll say it again: YOU DON'T KNOW THEM. At all! I don't give a shit what Beta posts on Instagram - you don't know her! She might be the root of all evil. She might be just a sweet woman who cares for Axl Rose. I don't know! And I don't care because I'll *never* know. And it doesn't impact me one bit. I don't have to have lunch with Beta or Fernando. Axl probably does and, after all this time, I think it's pretty safe to say that he likes them and that's really all that matters. He's their boss and, if he's satisfied with their work (the NITL is one of the most profitable tours of all time so I don't know if 'incompetent' is the word I'd use), then that's all that matters. But I get on Instagram, and on these forums, and I read people calling Beta and Fernando cunts and manipulators and all other types of vile shit. When in reality they're just two people trying to do a fucking job like anyone else and, again, it's only fucking rock n' roll. 

    "This band has done nothing in the studio." Again - despite what anybody here tells you, nobody knows shit. No one is an insider. People can speculate to their heart's desire, but you don't know if Axl has been in a studio. You don't know what's been done. You don't know if they have a backlog of material or if they have nothing. We have some leaked sessions from twenty years ago. That's the extent of it. Anyone who tells you otherwise - like that guy who leaked the Village Sessions and just seems to spend all his time trolling Team Brazil on Instagram - is insane.

    This band is no different than, say, the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Have we been emotionally invested in it for quite some time? Yes. Do some of the movies suck every once in a while? Sure. But that doesn't make Kevin Feige a lying thief who doesn't care about his fanbase. Everyone needs to just calm down.

    Take a chill pill, Nando. It's only a rock n' roll band :shrugs:

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  4. 1 minute ago, allwaystired said:

    As someone who is pretty much entirely physical media based when it comes to music.....is iTunes still a thing, i.e. will we be able to download this rather than just stream?

    I'm pretty opposed to Spotify on principle so don't have an account and don't use it...

    Yes, iTunes is still a thing and indeed it probably will be available for you to buy it. If you have any Apple device go to the music app, if a windows you can download it from microsoft store.

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