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I think people don't understand what TB do. Its very clear on the bands website, TB manage the business affairs of Guns N Roses and one would presume Axl Rose. For what ever reason people seem to think TB do everything. TB have never stated publicly, that they are a record label, booking agent, concert promotor, an A & R representative, video production company, legal representatives etc. From the outside, it' seems Axl has a lot of trust and faith in the Lebeis family and they offer him stability and loyalty within his own personal space. I think Vanessa plays a bigger part in Axl's day to day decision making, but flys under the radar compared to others in that family. That's understandable given members of the family have been involved in Axl's life for many years. The group that Axl has around him, seems to be working for Axl as he is clearly a very different person today, then 20 years ago, including being a much happier person in life. It's clear Axl himself with the help of those around him has exercised some demons from his past. I would suggest if members of the Lebeis family have been involved in that, then they have done their jobs as managers...

The creation of this website, has nothing to do with releasing any music from the past. Universal Music via the Geffen Label own the music created by Guns N Roses including the CD era material. Universal Music poured millions in the CD era material and unless they have sold the rights to that material, you aren't going to get anyone else releasing that material apart from Universal Music themselves. Live Nation aren't a record label, their core business is promoting live entertainment. It's possible, Live Nation and Axl have formed a business relationship to promote Axl Rose himself and at some point possibly sell tickets via Ticketmaster owned by Live Nation. Live Nation do have a marketing division and possibly that's what is happening in relation to the creation of this website. I am sure Axl is still personally managed by Team Brazil, as Team Brazil aren't a marketing business or in the business of selling tickets. They are a management company.

A person holding an Umbrella over another person is a normal occurrence around the world for many different reasons, some are religious, some culturual, out of respect, out kindness and courtesy, due to the rain, due to sun, due to a skin condition and for some to protect their privacy. The holder of the Umbrella could be any person, a family member, a husband, a wife, a mother/father, a grandmother/grandfather, a stranger, a worker, a person showing respect or being kind and thoughtful. Maybe some of you should visit an island in the Pacific and see what happens when an elder leaves the house, a younger person will grab an umbrella as a sign of respect to protect the elder from the sun and heat. Like many cultures around the world, the Pacific Island culture is rasisd to respect your elders and family members. Whats the big deal.... Can we now stay on the topic at hand.

Its not the 90s anymore and its not about glam rock, hard rook or if GN’R or Motley share a similar fan base or not... It's about making money and keeping that money in your own pocket. Guns don't need to co headline a tour with anyone. They are selling tickets and making money all by themselves. The reason why bands co headline today, is to ensure they increase the profit revenue for themselves. If you wouldn't normally sell out a venue by yourself, It makes business sense to join with another party to increase the ticket sales, to increase the revenue and split the profits. Touring is the main source of revenue for artists and the music industry today, replacing making money from album sales. If you look at it from this perspective, you can understand why GNR and their people turned this opportunity down...

It honestly amazes me that people cannot simply enter a thread and leave their personal baggage at the door. This thread is about Slash appearing at the Oscar's, preforming a song he recorded guitar for.. Not sure what Guns N Roses has to with this, nor it's management or what color clothing was worn.. It's an apples and oranges comparison anyway.... Can we not simply enjoy Slashs appearance and realise this is a good thing for all involved including rock music... The guy looked every bit a rock star...in a day and age dominated by pop and hop hop artists in the mainstream domain. The picture with Robert Downey and Bradley Cooper in conversion with Slash, and the look on each of their faces, they both were star struck..

Not sure we're you have been hiding, but the music industry and artists make money from touring, not selling albums or via streaming services. Guns N Roses have no control over the music industry and we're the revenue lies via supply and demand. The supply and demand from the paying public is in buying tickets to watch an artist's live performance, not going to a record store to buy a record or CD. I cannot understand, why people as yourself take issue with the money the band is making, when they are simply following a change in the way the music industry operates today.. The people that control the music industry today, are the likes of Live Nation,Danny Wimmer Presents and other concert promotors around the world including those who promote music festivals. They are offering guaranteed income to the artists. The artist gets paid regardless of how many tickets are sold and the promotor takes the financial risk and covers all the costs. Universal Music, Sony Music and Warner Music aren't the power brokers of the music industry anymore.. They aren't going to sign artists up to multi million dollar record label deals because they won't get a return on that investment via album sales like they once did in the past. The artists aren't making money from album sales, so they are making money from preforming live to provide for themselves and their families. Why wouldn't the band go were the money is?. It seems stupid not to... Do you honestly think in today's music industry, Universal Music are going to pay Guns N Roses to occupy studios, have producers, techs, engineers and band members on retainer to sit around for years recording music like they did during the making of Chinese Democracy.

You are part of the problem. Why would a member of the bands management team be replying to anything related to the company that created the content for the music video. When has any members of the bands management team been involved in video or animation production?. Why even bring that into the conversation?. Given people on social media seem to be giving this company unwanted grief, are they not afforded a right of reply?. Have you ever considered this behavior might be effecting those people involved personally?. Do you think they wanted this type of nonsense directed towards them for doing their jobs?. Place yourself in their shoes, and see the situation from their prespective. They would be thinking how unhinged a section of the Guns N Roses fan base is, because of a music video... That's a sad reflection on those people, not the people behind the creation of a music video. To many people bring baggage into these threads that seems to cloud general common sense.. Come back to reality please. It's only a music video..

To many people on this forum are still stuck in the past and that's the problem with many who post on this forum. It's not the 90s anymore... Music video directors don't exist anymore nor do record labels have the money to invest in a product that doesn't give them a financial return. The band have released a music video that fits in with the current state of today's music industry, including the cost factor and holding the copyrights to their own content. Some of you seem to think this music video was released to make some money. The music industry doesn't make any money anymore, hence a less cost effective alternative.. Thats why many artists today, release animation/lyric/live footage based music videos, or are remastering previously released albums.

Did you ever think that in this case the record label and the artist aren't on the same page or in agreement. It's highly possible the record label pulled the, "you are contractually obligated" card and the artist wasn't in agreement nor wanted to cooperate for what ever reason. Its possible the artist simply did what was required, with minimal effort as the artist wasn't going to see any financial benefits compared to the record label. Artists don't make money via selling records or songs in today's music industry. The record labels aren't the power brokers in the music industry anymore. That power ended when people stopped buying records.. Live Nation, Danny Wimmer and other tour promoters are the music industry power brokers today.

The bands management aren't involved in the creation of the music. There is no mention of the bands management listed in the song credits. The bands management team handels is business affairs. If you do some research the bands lists it's Artists and Repertoire representative. If you don't know what a A & R rep does, here is a general description. A&R is the division of a record label or music publishing company that is responsible for scouting and overseeing the artistic development of recording artists and songwriters.[1] It also acts as a liaison between artists and the record label or publishing company. Every activity involving artists to the point of album release is generally considered under the purview and responsibility of A&R. The current management of Guns N Roses have never listed themselves as anything other then handling the bands business affairs. You should be directing your frustration towards the record label, who have signed off on the official release of the finnshed product.. The record label is collecting the financial benefits of the Generals release..not the band nor it's management. The band is making its money via touring, as is every other artist in today's music industry.

It's clear the record label are pushing this as they own the material recorded over 20 years ago, hence why it's older music featuring some members of the band at that particular point in time. The band are simply meeting an obligation. They aren't stupid and understand the record label are trying to get in on the money wagon as the record label aren't generating any financial income from the band touring. The band will release new music recorded by the current line up as they will have full control over that material.

I think we need to take a step back and focus on the contents of the legal filling. Having read the legal filling, the core issues are copyright infringement under the Copyright Act and the other issue is under the California Fair Employment and Housing Act more specifically workplace sexual harassment. There are a number of business entities listed along with an individual as defendants. The Plaintiff is listed as an independent contractor, who at one point in time operated under a contract for services. Under the California Fair Employment and Housing Act an independent contractor is protected under the act if the employeer, employees more than five employees. The issues at hand are: # Who owns the material (the photos) and was the Plaintiff fairly compensated for work completed under the terms of a written contract or by general understanding (verbal agreements). # Did the employer provide a safe work environment under the terms of the California Fair Employment and Housing Act.

It's clear the reason why CD era songs are being released is because the record label owns that material. That's why we are getting old or recorded material from that era. As I have indicated previously, the band has the leverage, to control its own future and they are placing themselves in a position to do so either via a renegotiation with UMG under better terms or going independent via their own label. Axl won't return to the days of having a record label control all aspects of the material. Its clear the CD era experience broke him. The fact that the big 3 have remained together and the reunion tour has gone so well, Axl, Slash, Duff and Guns N Roses are In a very strong position to decided their own future path...

I am not sure why people continue to go back in time to compare the past to the present. Can any of us, look back in the past and still believe we are the same across many different aspects of our life's. As we get older our body changes... Axl's vocals of today are of a person who's changed, gotten older.. That's not going to change in the future. All that can be done is to manage what you have to persevere for longevity. For some reason, people seem to think Axl is super human and he is going to return to a past self.. You cannot compare others to Axl, as we are all different in many different ways. Vocal cords cannot be changed, replaced or de-tunned as a guitar string, a guitar or a snare drum. It is what it is.... and I think some of you need to develop an understanding of that concept..

You seem to think the band has control over this process. I put it to you that they don't and the process is being forced upon the band by the record label. We know for a fact, that the live era release was driven by the record label and individual band members stepped in to tidy up the mix as they weren't happy with what they had heard.. Perhaps interms of quality and video production has the signs of the band being fully involved in the process. I would not be surprised if the video content recorded by the band on tour used in the Perhaps video is exclusively owned by Guns N Roses. UMG are on the other side of the fence as the aren't making money from the band touring... To me, the record label are trying to get in on the money wagon, and the band have pushed back, via controlling the product, taking there time collectively (Axl, Slash and Duff) to make sure its right.

Team Brazil aren't A & R representatives. They have never said they are or listed themselves as music promotors. They handle the bands business affairs. The job of promoting music is the record labels job as that's how they make there money and a return on that money they have invested in the band.

Pretty sad how some of you seem to treat people, more so when it's clear none of you had actually taken the time to look into it. Robin isn't asking for $100.00. The online platform he is using, is asking for $100.00 to cover its business costs. It's clearly an online platform built for musicians and creative people to speak directly to fans about music and creativity and not a meet and greet. It's exactly what I would expect from Robin who always seems to be a person who is being creative and an interesting character to boot. If you are a guitar player and you are influenced by Robin's playing, it's a platform for you to ask direct questions about his influences, his style and his sound. I personally would be interested in Robin's pedal and rack set up for NIN live shows and how hard it is to incorporate that in the songs, riffs and beats Trent Reznor creates. It's funny, with people on this forum. There is another thread we're people are hammering Duff for going a standard media interview. And yet this platform that Robin is using allows us the fans to be the interviewer asking questions that you are seeking answers to... Go figure...

Not sure we're you got that from, more so from a few simple words that came out of Tommy's mouth. Tommy has moved on in life, and generally things from the past hold no relevance to the future more so when you aren't involved in that relationship anymore. Tommy left the band to tend to family matters. I respect the man for that alone, as many of us fathers have left our jobs/professions for the same reason. I would suggest Axl respected that decision... Tommy strikes me as a person who knows, its not his place to speak about things, out of respect to others. Tommy was highly respected by all involved during the period he was involved in the band... Just relate some of this to general life. Would you want to talk about something that happened 20 years ago like a bad relationship/marriage break up, or a previous job and wouldn't you want to move on in life and out of respect to others involved, and to not open a new can of worms, wouldn't it be better, to just say nothing...

I think the major issue is simply Axl, Slash and Duff don't want or need any outside influences to cause friction in relation to the personal relationships they have rebuilt. All 3 seem to get on well and they all seem at piece with each other, putting the past behind them having moved on. They all seem happy and content in life... It sounds so simple when people want to believe it's as easy as past band members turning up at rehearsals or in a studio and things will magically be recreated like back in 1987. When it comes to personal relationships, things are very different, more so as time goes by.

You are correct. He is simply adjusting the volume on his IEM to allow him to hear himself higher or lower in his own ears. IEM technology has grown in the last few years more so around the actual IEMs themselves in terms of sound quality and clarity. Most still use Shure wireless systems in terms of transmitting the signal from the transmitters to the receiver body pack. GN’R use Jerry Harvey Audio IEMs. Jerry Harvey have solely focused on the audio technology in the earphones themselves and when you use Jerry Harvey Audio IEMs the sound is amazing. In relation to the guitars. It's very common now, for the cabinet amps to be placed in a roadcase with sound proofing material packed around the cabinet with a microphone inside and then the road case is placed underneath the stage. The front of house team are actually hearing the guitar audio directly via a microphone in the road case, then directly into their own in ear monitors, not via the front stage monitors or PA system. They aren't hearing what we can hear front of stage as fans, and they are constantly having to change volume levels in the mix more so with two guitar players changing from lead to rhythm between themselves as Fortus and Slash do. In relation to soundchecks. Soundchecking in an empty venue will not simulate having people and the noise those people create inside or infront of the stage. Sound travels and sound also deflects. From my experience as a monitor engineer, you can soundcheck and have all your levels and settings set, with everything sounding perfect. But you always know your hands are going to be busy all night on the monitor board readjusting those settings when there are 8,000 to 30,000 people within the venue. I actually don't preset or label any settings after soundcheck, as its only going to change once the band is onstage..

It's not the bands nor its managements responsibility. The promotor is responsible for any possible rescheduled show and any fall out from this particular show that was postponed. The promotor will be working with the venue and all other stake holders to find a potential future date and an announcement will be made by the promotor not the band nor it's management.

Calm down people. It's clearly a throw away reference added by the promotor at the end of a press release to get attention i.e sell more tickets.. Why would a promotor take it upon themselves to make this type of an announcement telling the world that Guns N Roses is taking a break.... It doesn't make sense does it....

You Americans like to complain and yet you don't know how easy you have it. I notice, some people have mentioned driving from home (5 hours away) or picking up some last minute tickets based on a last minute decision. You do realise that for the majority of us in the rest of the world, seeing the band play in another city means, air travel, accommodation costs or not seeing the band play at all due to traveling distance. I saw the band in my home city of Auckland and travelled to Wellington. The show in Wellington cost me an additional $700 NZD for flights and accommodation plus tickets on top. Maybe that's why we outside the US understand the importance of enjoying the moment while we can...

The Perhaps video tells a different story. Again you are someone who believes this within there own mind without any evidence to back that up. I have seen plenty of evidence including on stage, that the current environment is a healthy one. Besides, these people aren't children as children don't have the maturity to speak up, These guys are adults and have the maturity to speak their mind and understand the situations they are in... They have chosen not to speak for there own reasons and they have every right to do so...

They have all moved on in life.. No need to make drama were there isn't any. Unless an ex member makes a current public statement about there involvement it's only forum speculation and talk around the water cooler. Finck, Stinson, Freese, Mantia and Bumblefoot all seem at peace with themselves... They are all adults and understand life moves on and as adults probably happy things have worked out for the best for all those involved including themselves... You guys act like these guys are children. These guys have been through band break ups before, marriage separations, being solo parents and through the good and bad times in life. I highly doubt they care about what happened in the past... It will all be water off a ducks back to each of them...