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  1. I was one of those that didn't grasp it.....for me GNR as a band finished in 1990 !
  2. I'd say this is the most on point post I've seen so far here - yes the 'official' releases ie selects are atrocious they aren't doing the band any favours. 'Axl is the boss' is the key point. I don't know why everyone is blaming TB - but perhaps I'm missing something ? Even if it was TB screwing up at some point it's the boss's issue to sort out or if not it is then them that are fucking up. This is the way Axl has always been right back to one of the first printed interviews in 86 - was it Music Connection or something where he didn't like what he thought they would write so threw a
  3. An EP with the original 5 would be cool.. I think the AFD5 would bump sales, but even if it didn't at least the band would sound a heap better. Not being too familiar with the recent era I was surprised how sterile and uninspired it sounded - did Fortus used to be a session player by any chance ?
  4. That would be the only thing to make me care....
  5. Axl might be a bit delusional with a warped sense of reality - but I think he is generally pretty honest. And if I recall properly I think he said in an interview that it was the back injury that prevented Steven playing originally - hence I don't think it is any more complicated than that. I think the tour started with Frank and they won't change anything until either Frank pisses someone off of ticket sales dry to the point they need the full reunion. I certainly agree its ridiculous to have Adler there who can play the tunes much better than anyone else and only have him play on 1
  6. I made the mistake of listening to YCBM - noting I've barely listened to anything in NITL other than the Adler appearances before. I've got to say the criticisms are fair - you can't even tell its Axl singing - it just sounds like air escaping out of a hole most of the time and him struggling to keep up. And the drumming is shocking - no feeling there at all. My favourite part of the song is the last part, breaking down my back etc, and that section is disgraceful. Adler's band at M3 did it infinitely better.
  7. Starting with the Black album, Metallica has had 6 straight number 1 albums of original studio material in the US. All those albums were Number 1 in the majority of countries wikipedia shows. If you take the comparable releases in that time frame : 1991 - Black album outsells UYI more than 2:1 ; 2008 - Death Magnetic outsells ChiDem 2:1. I think it is hard to mount the argument that GNR achieved more cross over than Metallica - I can't see how you can sell that many albums and achieve so much ongoing success without that cross over - the only thing that puts GNR close to Metallica is
  8. Lies basically got recorded twice, although originally it was intended for b-sides. I’m pretty sure that session he is referring to is the first one with Patience, the You’re Crazy version that ended up on the Jungle single, Cornchucker and the different versions of Used To Love Her and One In a Million that are floating around. All of which got out there when Alan Niven sold off some stuff. From this first session only the version of Patience ended up on Lies. This topic came up once before and subsequent to that from what I understand the Locked & Loaded had the dates where some of
  9. Just to put something in perspective......Jimi Hendrix has managed 3 albums of new studio material in the last 11 years, that all charted Top 10 in the US, ...and he died 50 years ago.
  10. IMO This whole debate really hinges on whether a band is a name or a concept. There is no right or wrong answer IMO and it may differ from band to band what it really is. Ie if you think of GNR as just a brand name then those guys weren’t original as technically there was a band that existed before with different members with that name if like me GNR is more a concept, then they are original as the concept started in June ‘85 and ended in April 90. Other entities have existed with that name but weren’t the same.From that perspective they were original in what I define GNR as.
  11. It comes across like he thought the person was asking about pre-recorded backing tapes. And he’s responding “no we haven’t recorded new backing tapes - when we play it’s all live” !
  12. Well the way I designed the above was that not even 3 members have control. Essentially 4 to approve a move and any 2 can veto. That way the outcome isn't dependent on any single member (who may or may not have some mental health or control issues going on) or even 3 members, who say were money hungry for instance. Think of it as a power sharing agreement where musical integrity and credibility are the main determinant in any steps forward. ETA just on the Adler point, in the last 30 years, despite a debilitating drug addiction for much of the time and the added burden of being cut
  13. I love MC94 as well. I saw Crabby perform the whole album a couple of years back ! Even though it went Top 5 and some fans like myself absolutely love it, I can say objectively that it would be considered an underwhelming release (ie akin to CD.) For me to try and maintain anything different just because I like it so much would be delusional. Anyway, I'm going to crank it up right now !!
  14. I actually provided a lot of factual evidence to support my position - most of what I have got back in return is opinions. I'll summarise again briefly, Out of a 40 year career : * Axl had a number of bands prior to GNR that got at best to demo stage but then went nowhere. Those bands included other members who were able to establish new platinum selling bands. * Axl then had a brief 5 year period when he was with 4 other people in Slash, Steve, Izzy, Duff wrote and recorded 3 albums + 2 EP's (well Steve missed the recording of UYI, but was there for most of the writing). During
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