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You blokes are behind the times.

It's the whole song now !

Finally got to hear this.

It's nothing like I expected , I thought it would be much heavier. 

Its got some good parts, but for most part I'm disappointed by the song as a whole. 

I guess these songs are unreleased B-sides for a reason, no surprise that neither Perhaps or Hard Skool set the world on Fire,  ...and sadly neither will The General 

On 10/24/2023 at 4:55 PM, Blackstar said:

Part of Perhaps:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyyYoSdLWZi/

 

🤣 sooo shi! 

It's like a switch goes off somewhere inside and the voice changes to this weak feminine sounding Herbert voice

It's even funnier on a song like It's So Easy when he trying to talk tough.lol 

I wish this happened to his voice in 87-88 , so nobody would fall for this 30 year old scam of an album, or any career at all.

If he hit the stage singing It's So Easy with his weak feminine Micky Herbert voice in 1987 , it would been all over before it even started

And we would probably be better off not wasting our time 30 years later on  shitty forums whole we wait , laugh and cry at bumbled mess the band make out of simple act of releasing a Single. 😆

Perhaps there is a God, our prayers have been answered with another 25 year old song that wasn't good enough to be on the album in first place being trotted out and sold to the world ad a New GNR Song even though the vocals were recorded 25 years ago. 😝

You guys are cucked and fucked.

Everything i said is backed up by GNR and Ax's actions the last 30 years.

🤔

The Lies are many, but since it's the only piece of "Hope" you get.

You spend your time making up excuses in your head to keep you going until the next lie.

💥these actions also validate exactly what I just said. 

It's all to keep you strung along,

hoping that 30 years of bullshit was just human error and any day now that New Music is coming 😂😝

2 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Oh, this is going to grow old quickly. 

The above commenters claiming GNR never lied to us are doing it in a multi year old thread crated because of Lies Slash told us about two more singles from the Village Studios re-recordings , that he claimed was coming out 2 years ago. 😝 

There kinds of Lies have been going ever since the Chin Dem era stated in the late 90s. And even before.

The "nut swingers" denial of truth just added validity to my statement 

💥  @GnR_Fans_WorldWide  

if you have lived long enough,

to have full knowledge of the situation,

and the modern day world around you.

Then you know in your hearts that my  speculative statement Above is the most likely the truth,

as it fits perfect with what the modern day music business has become.

(I.E. "selling the past back to us. Because they know it is the easiest sale , 

the things we already like or love ....

Sad but true ❤️ 

I even gave it an intro that has nothing to with post 90s GnR,

for a little perspective .....

✌️  

The above commenters claiming GNR never lied to us are doing it in a multi year old thread crated because of Lies Slash told us about two more singles from the Village Studios re-recordings , that he claimed was coming out 2 years ago. 😝 

There kinds of Lies have been going ever since the Chin Dem era stated in the late 90s. And even before.

The "not swingers" denial of truth just added validity to my statement 

Motley Crue broke up ,

then got back together, and recorded an album. 

Tommy married Pam Anderson,

went to Jail ,

and they toured  the US without him.

all this happened,

In the time it took Fat Axbert to get out of bed and drive to the Studio 😝👈 

Face it,

we are or were fans of a band that purposely lied and led the fans down a dead end road for 30 years,  while only giving them a small crumbs of music each decade to keep false hope alive.

All to preserve their 2 album cycles(AFD/UYI) for a cash grab "reunion" retirement tour at the end of the road where they would continue lying to fans while giving them only breadcrumbs.  

CD II/ New Album is just the latest,

and probably the final dead end Lie before they pull the plug. 

If they tour again next year, or year after we may get 1 more two song EP from the Village Re-Recordings, maybe. 

It's been 8 years now since they been 'back",

they will never record a "New Album" 

It's Ova, the Swindle is nearing it's End.

.   . .  .  ..  .🐣🐤🐥 

Wake Up lil' birdies, it's very Late 

What happened to the Spotify Algorithm that proved New GNR Music was to be released ASAP? 😁😂🤣😂

6 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

It's okay to not have faith, but don't be stupid about it. 

I'm not being stupid 

I'm being realistic.

You guys got your money on Japan, but they just released Hard Skool CD to the stores in Japan to promote that tour. 

it just doesn't add up , I think it's been pushed back til next year.

Just now, Manfisman said:

I wouldn't usually bet on GNR but stuff doesn't appear on search databases magically. Those songs are coming IMO

I hope your right.

But I have zero faith in this band anymore

Wouldn't it be easier to just listen to the actual song.   

Nothing new is coming this year

1 hour ago, darkside259 said:

lol what??? 

Yes,

"Rock Fans" lived for the album tracks, the heavier songs,

the top 40 shit was just the cost of doing bizness. It was for the ladies.

Guns got lucky and scored a couple uncharacteristically heavy songs in the Top 10 with WTTJ & Paradise City.

They shouldn't have stopped pushing the boundaries in that direction also.

Instead of going for the almost all ballads or covers single selection from UYI's. It made them look weak.

When GnR became the UYI version.

Metallica changed also.

But they used the AFD blueprint for the Black Album.

Everybody loved them even though they went against everything they previously stood for and became a Hit Single/ MTV video type band. 

A band that promised from day 1 to never to make a music video.

AFD was a winning formula no matter who was wearing it.

If GnR had just done the same thing , and stuck to their "guns" a little more with UYI it all could have been very different.

It's no surprise the Metallica guys couldn't get along with this version of Axl.

They were real,

GNR were real.

But Axl no longer was

On 9/2/2022 at 1:54 AM, rumandraisin said:

Were they not successful because by that point Estranged was from a two year old album and wasn't exactly radio friendly and the rest were covers with barely any promotion. Especially sympathy having no video. 

Yes, but two years earlier any radio station on earth would have bent over backwards to play the latest GnR song.

Alot changed by 1993.

The over commercialisation of Guns N Roses through what seemed like a never ending string of power ballads had left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. 

This was not the GnR everyone loved just 5 years ago.

Back then "Rock Bands" used to have 1 power ballad on each album to push sales and get Top 40 Radio play.

It was almost automatic that these songs would be Top 10 Hits.

Most "Rock Fans" considered these the "Pussy Songs" for the girls only.

GnR went to this well way too many times in UYI era and it burnt them.

Don't Cry - top 10

November Rain (another power ballad so soon, but it's good so we will play it) - top 10 

Yesterday's - that's enough Axl, we will give it a couple spins, but aren't you guys supposed to be a "Rock Band", maybe release an upbeat song next, this is getting stale....

Estranged - Fuck Off .... Not only will we not play this , but GnR will never again have the support of Top 40 Radio.

*The only GnR song to crack the Top 40 since November Rain was the Chinese Democracy Single for 1 week in 2008.

People were just done.

Axl sold out the name to try and scrape up every last dime before the world turned on them. 

Metallica did the exact same thing, but later learned they didn't need to because they were apparently safe from the trends and selling out.

1993 was the cut off date in the U.S.

All the good will Axl had built up with GnR as punkish band of the people,  was thrown away on a multi-million dollar video trilogy that made him look pompous and disconnected.

Hard Skool EP Re-released to promote Fall 2022 Japan Tour confirms what we already know deep down inside.

No New Music or "single" is coming in 2022

Slosh lied when he said another single was coming this year.

Better luck next year GnR fans,

or maybe never.

😂 UYI Box instead 

The only "new music" coming is from a pinball game from 30 years ago 😂🤣😂🤣

I think they have finally done it.

7 years of a Reunion  equalling just 7 minutes of "New-ish" music, 

 coupled with Axl's vocals sounding more like Herbert the Pervert from Family Guy,  has destroyed the online community.

The forums are graveyards. 

It's not ending the way we all hoped. But I think it is finally ending. 

Good luck with fairweather soccer mom bon Jovi fans Axl, very soon that and Team Brazil will be the only fans you have left.

Someone mentioned height, that's part of it. 

Looks were everything In the late 80s.

Sorry West

On 5/11/2022 at 7:56 AM, vicson said:

The biggest missconception regarding the Ritz show in 1991, which is supposed to be in the boxset, is that Axl breaks his foot during the song You Could Be mine. That's not true. If you look at the video and at the picture taken by Robert john in his book you will see that Axl is dressed completely different when he jumps over the stage than when plays You Could Be mine. Even in the book it says that it is during YCBM but it's not. Watching the video bootleg and seeing that picture I asume it's during the first 3 songs. Which means Preety tied Up, Bad Obsession or Right Next Door To Hell. I guess we'll see when the boxset will be out. 

 I'm  pretty sure their are pieces of the YCBM video that were not filmed during the 3 minutes they were playing the song. Making the whole performance film for the video.

5 hours ago, Blackstar said:

 

 

- Bumblefoot seemingly played over an earlier version and, in any case, what he did ("translating" original synth "riffs" into guitar and adding solos) probably doesn't count as songwriting.

That was kind of my whole point in mentioning.

He may not deserve a writing credit for his Remix, but Slash n Duff got one for basically copying it.

21 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Regarding the writing credits for Hard Skool, although it hasn't appeared on ASCAP or any other similar databases yet, I saw on another forum that it appears on the database of Universal Music Publishing (which has Axl's publishing) and the credited writers are Axl, Slash, Duff, Paul Tobias, Robin Finck, Tommy Stinson and Josh Freese:

https://www.umusicpub.com/us/Digital-Music-Library/search/Hard Skool

So, I suppose that the credits to NuGnR members mean that the song doesn't originate from the 1996 sessions?

On the other hand, the press release said it was written by Axl, so maybe it pre-existed in its basic form and then the NuGnR members helped arrange it, so that's why they get credit.

That was me that posted it.

I don't think the credits are completly accurate as to who actually wrote what.

These are according to Universal Music Publishing Group. I found it last night by looking at the publishing data on the Hard Skool video. (ABSURD is on ASCAP &  Universal and they are both the same)

The Hard Skool song writing credits are Rose (Fink, Freese, Hudson, McKagan, Stinson, & Paul Tobias) exactly like that, only Tobias gets his full name. lol

Everybody from the original Chin Dem lineup but Pitman & Dizzy ?

The Absurd credits are even stranger Rose( Hudson, McKagan, & Reed)

This seems more like some weird inner band politics to try and keep everyone happy, than who actually wrote them

Either that or Slash n Duff time traveled to the late 90s and wrote "Silkworms" before the Chin Dem band.

And what of Bumblefoot?

No credit for his remix of Silkworms that sounds an awful lot like Slash's ABSURD.

This picture is a 7"

This picture is a 12" record.

It has nothing at all to do with the cutout in the middle