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7 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

There is no indication that Axl had a concept of a three guitar lineup in the mid 90s similar to what it ended up being in 2000. What seems to be the case is that he brought up the "three guitarists" idea only in 1994, when Gilby was still in the band, as a kind of a compromise, with the concept being to keep Gilby as a "side guy" and bring someone else - Huge/Tobias, I guess - as a studio writer.

So how did zakk wylde come into the picture?.

28 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said:

I think Slash and Duff had plenty of input. It appears some offer was made to Izzy. I imagine that all 3 discussed Izzy’s involvement. And, maybe Steven was considered. I still can’t make out what his planned involvement might have been. After those two failed to rejoin it was obvious Axl would stay with people he was comfortable playing with and with whom he has little negative history. 

Yrah. Im sure duff and slash remembered the axl and matt issues backstage during the illusions, and maybe asked axl, to at least ask anyway. Or maybe axl just flat out said no to Matt before the question was raised from duff and or sladh!.

I thought there was a talk from so called insiders of asking matt, and having steven do the some of the songs in some capacity. Maybe just the AFD ones, but was probably scrapped when axl thought about the chemistry in the band overall and decided to stick with Frank for being loyal over the years.

I wondered why brain and freese where never asked.......

12 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

The context he's referring to in that specific part of the interview is clearly the 1985 band. And he thinks the 1997 band could have been a real organic band - I haven't finished watching it yet, but it sounds like the point he's getting at is that it would have been possible if Axl had freed himself from the burden of the GN'R name and fully embraced the new musical direction that band (with Abbruzzese, Vrenna, Finck and Duff) was heading at.

I agree.

I would like to know why axl wanted to have a 3 guitar lineup in 95/6 and then a 2 drummers around the 97 era. What was axls musical vision he wanted to acheive with this sort of a lineup ill never undrrstand.

If Axl got rid of the GNR name to do this project under, it would have all been a potentially a much inspiring , and potentially easier process.

13 hours ago, Master Of Reality said:

Yes she was. Dave worked with the band in 1997 while Duff was still in the band. The next year Axl got arrested on the airport after visiting Sharon Maynard(Yoda) and her husband. The 'dark lord' stuff fits right in that wacky episode isn't it.

Yes it does.

11 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said:

“Dark lord”. What a laugh. Axl really takes himself seriously sometimes.

Was Yoda still around axl at this stage?.

35 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

I think no-one expects the same quality anymore. It's not even about Izzy. I mean, of course he was a main part of GNR but it's not the same time anymore, the band members got older, personalities have changed, the attitude is gone, their lifes are different, no drugs, no fights, lots of money, therefore different topics. Even with Izzy the music wouldn't be the same.

BUT I thought they've something left to tell in them, especially after reuniting after so many years. I thought that could have been an inspiration. An incentive. But seemingly I was wrong.

I dont know. Izzy and axl go way back, as Indiana boys. Izzy did shows with the nuguns guys, irrespective that izzy was rehearsing and writing with slash and duff, and matt back in 03. I hope if there is any new songs , izzy gets the call.

I still think they can write, with izzy, the same attitude like dust n bones.

13 minutes ago, jamillos said:

They did have Velvet Revolver though, so it couldn't have been that bad, at least at times. Anyway, I'm for anything that would change the dynamics, both in terms of music and the band itself! 

Love matts drumming, to me sorum fitted the illusions perfectly. Having a look at that 95 rehearsal video, where slash says matt is one the best drummers hes seen, slash must feel like hes stepping down to play with frank.

6 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

This, basically. Matt seems to be the kind of guy that speaks his mind. He would probably call out TB as well. Axl, Slash and Duff don't want to deal with that attitude for sure. Would it make the band better if Matt was around? Probably yes, but since this ain't a band anymore, won't happen. 

I remember matt, from matts book asking if GNR were still managed by " that kid". I could see matt butting heads with TB majorly.

10 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

Tuning up might be the answer! 

I'd rather I much more to the point set that he can sing. It would be great going to a guns concert and not having to be terrified you're getting one of the many bad voice days "Oh don't go to the opening night" "Don't go until about the 2nd week of touring, he should? be ok by then?", it's all true! but fuck it's a disgrace! 

Those damn Aussies! maybe Brian can sing with GNR, judging from power up, he might do a better job!

Axl doing coma and YCBM in the one show doesnt work. Those songs should be rotated around.

2 hours ago, jamillos said:

Whatever it was, something was going on. Ij

 

Edit:
We've talked about it here:

 

Im no surgeon but,  that really looks like a facelift. If so why? It does not look normal. Seems like axls MJ phase. But his jawline also looks completely different 

4 minutes ago, mystery said:

There were definitely reports about all of this. Even sitting in his kitchen with Youth (Killing Joke) and not wanting to sing.

I think the Illusions tours were the apex of their touring schedule. I don't think his voice could handle a schedule like that again.

I think its just a missed opportunity they didn't play a few shows in 95/96 or 98/99 with the early Chinese band.

The closest I heard was possibly Woodstock 99. I think it would have really brought back his confidence like the 01 shows did.

Well the band, were in their nid 20s when axls pipes were at their peak. At 56 or so now, theres no way they could do the touring schedule on par with the pace of the illusion tour. Axl voice couldnt handle it.

18 minutes ago, mystery said:

I remember reading either here or elsewhere that his voice was already breaking down at the end of the Skin 'Bones tour. It seemed kind of thinned out by that time.

One thing that I've noticed since 2001 is that even his speaking voice has changed. It has a nasally tone to it now. Watching interviews from back in the day and his voice was noticeably deeper.

Having a listen to saskatoon, especially YCBM his voice is rough and scratchy as fuck.

From interviews with zakk wylde, axl wasnt around much because he was in lawsuits from bandmates, erin and stephanie, so from 94 to 96 he was in court. Slash leaves in 96 , duff leaves in 97 followed by matt so 97 to 98 are the kinda wilderness years. 98 to 99 he was assembling CD lineup and was working on tunes, as he handed the first completed copy of CD by what 99?.

The braids and facelift, is a kind of WTF period.

While im no fan of franks drumming and what he brings to the band, hes not the only weakest link in the band.

Judge on american idol.

2 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

The NITL selects are utter crap.. And if anyone if honest with themselves, so is this band... I assume the band realizes this too or they would have released some kind of NITL video release..

I really wonder sometimes whether the band especially duff and slash know about the NITL selects being put on social media

1 hour ago, The Holographic Universe said:

He talked some trash about the piano driven tracks at the time of the album release. Axl is responsible for the expansive sonic feel of the band. On his own Slash would have never recorded an Estranged. 

i beleive axl ranted that at RIR  around Slash never wanting to do estranged, post new nuguns lineup.

A pack of 20 toilet paper with the illustrious 2010 photo on every sheet,

Just now, axlvai said:

Maybe losing money bc bad administration. They were making 1M videoclips. 

Apparently the record company were picking up the tab for the clips. The band went through money due to axls parties, and late fines due to playing late past city curfews. 

2 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

If i had to guess, i would say they probably made a limited run and don't think the Uzi Suicide shirt would have the same selling potential as other shirts with more recognisable logos (like the AFD cross, bullet logo or UYI figure, etc).

True. But the shirt i thought would have more selling potential than those stupid hell tourshirts and the best one off all  covid45 shirt 

These videos make the NITL selects utter crap. The band i reckon have a treasure trove of these shows caught on video, that will never see the light of day.

The interesting thing with the illusion albums which are both my favourite, is what one person considers a song to be a filler is usually someone elses favourite.

5 hours ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

I always liked the Uzi Suicide shirt they were selling on the European leg of NITL tour, but as a fellow Aussie, never had an opportunity to get a hold of one. Ended up buying a bootleg online, lol.

With the other useless crap they put on the merch site, im miffed why they havnt put that particular shirt online. Its better than that other ghastly illusions sweater.

9 hours ago, TheGeneral said:

Even after nearly a month, with the release hype disappearing, this album is still great.

Money Shot is such a banger. It's honestly become one of my favorite songs of theirs. Nothing gets me pumped more than that song full blast and Brian going "WHAT'S THE ANTIDOTE?". It's like I'm getting injected with adrenalin

Im sure once the band start touring to promote it, the publicity machine will crank up to generate tickets. 

11 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

If they cut it down to just the hits they "have to play" and threw in some new stuff and deep cuts, Axl could still put on a relatively great show.

Welcome To The Jungle
Sweet Child O' Mine
Paradise City
Mr. Brownstone
Nightrain
You Could Be Mine
November Rain
Live And Let Die
Knockin' On Heavens Door
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It's So Easy
Pretty Tied Up
Bad Obsession
The Garden
Double Talkin' Jive
Down On The Farm
You Ain't The First
Patience
Wichita Lineman
The Seeker

Add 2-3 new songs and a couple Duff songs, and it's about the same length as their last shows. Maybe rotate Chinese Democracy, Slither, Shadow Of Your Love, Don't Cry or You're Crazy into the set when they feel like it, but don't play them just for the sake of "playing a 3 hour show".

I really think by now we can get rid of the covers. The only cover song axl could and should sing is off TSI. So my setlist woukd be,

Welcome To The Jungle
ISE

Nightrain
Mr. Brownstone
Live and let die

KOHD
SCOM
November Rain
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Pretty Tied Up
Bad Obsession
The Garden
Double Talkin' Jive

Black Leather
Dust N Bones ( Duff vocals)

New Rose (duff vocals)
Patience

YCBM

Paradise City

Rotate, Mm, OTGM, Dont Cry , Yesterdays, Estranged  CD, maybe introduce TWAT.

12 minutes ago, marlingrl03 said:

Yeah sorry but all of the choices offered were a no go!! Axl definitely needs a vocal coach....I just watched again the 2017 clips of when he sang Big Shot and Highway to Hell with Billy Joel and he sounded great. He just needs motivation, vocal work, and yeah throw Duff a bone and have him sing more than one song! Why not. 

How ironic that he sings well with other artists but gives zero fucks to his own band. 

If he has in ear monitors he knows how he sounds. Either pride or stubborness is preventing him in improving his technique.

Maybe they could ask the vocalist in adlers band to do vocals.