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1 hour ago, twistoflemon21 said:

Airpods Max on and volume turned right up, I'm hearing "your sordid meaning" on all three choruses.

CD booklet says "not distorted meaning"

On 12/22/2023 at 6:18 PM, tboneman said:

Vinyl rip. 

 

 

Holy fuck the instrumental sounds killer, guitars and drums so much crisper and clearer 

On 12/13/2023 at 8:29 AM, Flayer said:

Sounds right to me. My point stands - they'd have been better off just releasing that version instead, if they weren't going to bother finishing it properly. 

Lol they did just release that version it just isn't a shitty MP3 file where you can't even make out all the flaws of the song properly 

2 hours ago, fabrph5 said:

Probably should have released Monsters as the B side of perhaps.  Its a much better song IMO and it jams for a min from the 2:50ish mark.  Sounds more like a gnr song

Should be an A side not a B side and I reckon it will be 

Pointless comparison when Evader's song is based off Monsters not TG

1 hour ago, gibbinson said:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02Ea7uUmAuhUgLSPY8ekSxKyPRTL4qvaD3h7rByDjLTMbZN3vcPJRScGLDSjFPwZxDl&id=100088318801006

100% different. The mix is different. 

 

Monsters especially you can really hear the guitars. 

 

I suggest you need a hearing test my friend or some decent headphones required 

I don't buy it... Sounds the same to me with maybe a slightly cleaner MP3 rip. The slight vocal distortion from clipping in the verses of Monsters is exactly the same as previous leaks 

For anyone wanting to hear the version played on Japanese radio to my ears it sounds exactly the same. I’m pretty confident they just played the leak version - potentially by accident if someone had sent it to them and requested it.

I can’t believe Axl would put out a song with vocals that distorted and we have no evidence anyone has actually received the vinyl or CD.

49 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Because we already have it? 

In horseshit quality

8 hours ago, General2112 said:

Someone on Reddit shared this. Radio station in Japan might’ve played the general

Why is no one talking about this? Surely means it’s being dropped Friday

4 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

Wow - good find. So with no real issue with space there still isn’t a place for ‘Monsters’ so that to me says it’s gonna be on a future release.

Surely this doesn't change anything if the working theory was that Monsters was going to be a hidden track and therefore wouldn't be listed on the tracklist regardless?

I do tend to agree that they'll put it on a future release though - feels like way to strong of a song to relegate to a hidden track. Strong guitars, some beast mode vocals and the catchiest hook of any of the new songs

7 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

Don't follow you. I think it sounds the same structure-wise to me? Could you point this part on the clip to me?

Using the time stamps from that YouTube video, at 2:09.25 the chorus ends, which in the new version just rolls straight into the solo. In the old clip it sounds like the guitars cut out for that breakdown bit then at 2:09.39 I can make out an Axl high note on “nowwwww” leading into the solo.

Kills me that they changed the bit before the solo. Clearly originally there's a bit of a breakdown before launching into it, where it sounds like the chorus repeats but with an extended high note on "it's over now". Just sounds so much more dramatic as a buildup to an epic solo where the new version kinda just rolls into a bit of a tame Slash solo to my ears. But that's just one man's opinion based on a shit quality clip 

Chances they play it tonight and announce a midnight digital release?

Damn that's legit!

6 hours ago, Miden34 said:

so im gonna say this. i think monster is just a reworked general. i think its the only one we get on the vinyl and that the general is an old demo. i feel pretty confident about this.

How they are literally completely different songs...

Lol serious recency bias going on in this poll - great tune but it’s not even close to the top tier of CD (Better, Prostitute and TWAT) in my mind

26 minutes ago, PrimalScream said:

I'm gonna take a guess as why it is a two-parter:

Against all odds, I think the band (and TB) was trying to be nice to hard-core fans. This whole time they had "the General" and "Monsters" (which I'm inclined to agree it fits the description of Soul Monster - better than Me & My Elvis) as two separate working pieces. They also probably know that we all thought the cellphone leak was The General because it has orchestration in the background.

Going back to the concert intro, I really don't find the chord progression on Monsters/phone clip, but just the General.

They might have predicted our reaction if they had just released The General - where are those awesome high piercing vocals we can hear on the cell phone clip??? Why they scrapped the best part????

So to merge both pieces as "The general and monsters" was their way of getting out at once all music that we previously thought was only "the general".

Surely they could have just released Monsters on its own and then we would still have the song everyone expected to be The General if that was the case. I reckon Axl's vision is for it to be a two-part song with the orchestral concert intro and lyrical themes the link between them

Surely no-one can think the pre chorus and chorus vocals on The General are good? I'm pretty confident it's just a sound quality issue and the real thing will sound much sharper but the vocals in those bits are close to unlistenable to my ears 

6 minutes ago, kitstuai said:

There's no way this recording was made after 2010. Like 0% chance. I don't know who played on it though. 

What makes you think that? I feel like the most likely story is this is a vinyl rip of the rejected version which would make sense as the quality on The General especially sucks 

3 minutes ago, kitstuai said:

 

Because the leaks are previous versions to the one they played live in 2010

 

Nah that is clearly Slash on that track unless my ears are fucked

Comparing the new version to the old phone bit they've definitely changed it a bit. On the old recording there's a little breakdown between the chorus and the solo where now they just roll into each other - kinda miss the Estranged vibe of that solo tbh but still kicks ass

Surely they’re gonna be a Holiday/Boulevard of Broken Dreams style double song? Otherwise why would they be redirected as one song on that songwriting credits site 

Just saying if these were real and not some kind of freaky AI surely they’d be taken down by now…

1 minute ago, Axls_Moustache_Rules said:

You can tell even from the mobile recording, Axl would have a heart attack before successfully singing it live.

I mean they play TWAT all the time and it’d be a helluva song to be more demanding than that