Gibsonfender2323

4 minutes ago, downzy said:

Maybe I'll travel to Saudi Arabia or Iran and start hanging posters of Muhammed.  The imagery means nothing to me.  Who cares if it deeply offends the locals.  Their problem, not mine.  

All this effort to defend the Swastika.

This is why we can't have nice things and guys like Trump gets elected.  

Or it  should be seen as the Swastika was in use for THOUSANDS of Years and the Nazis culturally appropriated a Sacred Religious Symbol to the majority of the earths population for their Evil Purposes?

How do you think all the 1.72 BILLION Hindus feel that their religion was used for this?

https://m.timesofindia.com/calcutta-times/I-wont-change-my-name-Swastika/articleshow/1409705.cms

Just now, DieselDaisy said:

I didn't know quite what to say to that! It is rare I'm speechless on here but that is one of those occasions.

It’s a waste of time to argue anymore. Yet we are the racist ones 🙄

2 minutes ago, downzy said:

Not if they live in North America or Western Europe.  

So that clears it you are officially racist. You said the people who make up 47% of the worlds population have no right to use their religious identity because of “muh feelings?”

So I guess we should get rid of all Christian and Arab names because of the religious slaughter that has gone on for the past thousand years

37 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Utter, colonial-minded, western arrogance!

I repeat the question. Do you believe there should be a ban in Canada on people of Indian descent called Swastika?

I know a guy named Swastik. Should I tell him to change his name?

of course not because the Nazi were a minority group that appropriated a religious symbol.

27 minutes ago, EvanG said:

But how can you speak of ignorance when it provokes certain emotions? I think you're being too rational. Imagine an old Jewish person seeing a swastika and that being enough to take them back to the ghetto or Auschwitz and you're talking about technicalities on how old that term or symbol is. It's about what it represents now to a lot of people.

So all Hindus and Buddhists are ignorant even though they make 47% of the Earths population and they are the ones who created the symbol and still use it today?

8 minutes ago, downzy said:

38 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

 

Of course not.  But anyone with that name should probably opt to go by a different name if they don't want to be thought of as an asshole

Wow that is actually racist

4 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

Right but you said 99% of the world sees it as a nazi thing, thats just incorrect

Exactly. The Earth is a population of 7.52 Billion. Hindus  and Chinese make up  47% of the world with 1.2 Billion and 1.15 billion respectfully.

I think the Hindus and Bhuddists would be more concerned about making the Jews feel uncomfortable then the Canadians.  Don’t know the population Jews in Canada

In Hindu and Buddhist culture the swastika is a holy symbol. On the holiday of Divali, Hindu households commonly use the swastika in decorations. Many Indian auto-rickshaws feature the swastika to ward off ill-fortune. Reverence for the swastika symbol in Asian cultures, in contrast to the West's stigmatization of the symbol, has led to misinterpretations and misunderstandings.^[

The swastika continues to be used as a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu and Buddhist countries such as Nepal, India, Mongolia, China and Japan. It is also commonly used in Hindu marriage ceremoni

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

39 minutes ago, soon said:

Other town names in Canada,

- Dildo, Newfoundland And Labrador

- Punkeydoodles Corner, Ontario

- Balls Falls, Ontario

- Spread Eagle Bay, NEwfoundland And Labrador

others locations in the same region include, Conception Bay, Ass Rock, Ass Hill and Tickle Cove

- Stoner, British Columbia

That last ones perfect. But I won’t name names 

Seriously?

9 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Yeah, I don't think anyone named a city "swastika" because they were nazis or racists 

You sure about that 😂

11 hours ago, downzy said:

Crazy enough, one of my best friends, a real estate agent, had a client looking for a property in Swastika.  They loved the property, but then learned about the name of the town and obviously balked.

I told him he should buy up properties in the town and then push through a name change and flip the properties.  

I thought you Canadians were progressive!

This town is racist and needs to change its name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika,_Ontario

How is California gonna keep all their electric vehicles powered in 2035 if they cant even keep the lights on now?

10 minutes ago, downzy said:

You said "I stopped arguing with you about Canadian politics."  When you say you stopped, it implies that you started.

1 hour ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Frankly I give up arguing with you about politics because frankly I no longer give a shit about your opinon because you have no power in America.

I pretty clearly said American.

5 minutes ago, downzy said:

I do apologize as I did get that wrong.  You didn't defend the cop; I confused you with someone else.

Again, i gave you my reasons. 

But that's not what you initially stated.

You said "I stopped arguing with you about Canadian politics."  When you say you stopped, it implies that you started.

Again, here's another example of why you're not allowed to discuss politics on this forum.  You don't make the slightest effort to have a genuine discussion with those you disagree with. 

No I said I stopped arguing politics. You banned me because you don't like  my views as for the rest of your post . All I got to say is Ironic

2 minutes ago, Whiskey Rose said:

gasp! ok, now you've gone too far! 

 

Apologies 😁

10 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

PS

Ironically I argued against @Gibsonfender2323, pertaining to misuse of firearms in this incident haha.  

and we can still have a  civil discussion about it.

24 minutes ago, downzy said:

So we've gone from "I've stopped arguing about Canadian politics" to "I don't care about Canadian politics."

So which is it?

It's both I don't care because I do not live in that country and I don't give shit.

Plus I never argued about Canadian Politics so I can not stop. The only things  I know about Canada are

1  It's a barren tundra.

2. It is a monarchy 

3 .The Prime Minister is a pretty boy who dresses in blackface  

11 minutes ago, downzy said:

The reality is you no next to nothing about what goes on at the border. 

The Trump administration imposed a zero-tolerance program that resulted in all kids being separated from their parents.  Anyone over 18 were charged, whereas previously they were treated as civil violations.  And under US law, anyone charged with a crime cannot be jailed with their children.  It had nothing to do with coyotes.  

 

Wrong I know what I talk about because unlike you I have actually been to the Border on a goodwill mission and saw first hand what goes on inside. You say all your insults to me without one shred of irony which is hilarious.

11 minutes ago, downzy said:

And you have never once argued with me about Canadian politics.  

Because it's none of my business. As 

1. I don't live in Canada

2. I don't give a shit 

3.  I have my own life and  am not obsessed about what goes one in another country politically 

11 minutes ago, downzy said:

So you have a shitty President and England has to deal with the misery of Brexit out of spite.  Got it

You missed the point completely

7 minutes ago, action said:

well, going by that logic it would be rude to tell a pineapple he has bad skin

The pineapple is a beautiful fruit how dare you? 

Just now, Whiskey Rose said:

Yeah, I think one of the underlying issues here is "rudeness". 

It just really bothers me, and I don't think there's ever justification for being rude to someone just because you don't agree with their opinion or they don't seem educated enough for you.  

Unless someone has wronged you somehow, or you know directly where they have wronged someone else, there is just no need to be rude.  It would go a long way toward healing our society instead of dividing it. 

Lets build each other up instead of tearing each other down. 

 

All for that

16 minutes ago, downzy said:

Oh, I'm sorry.  Do you not like having someone tell you how to vote or having an opinion on how your country should operate?  Imagine that.  A man who lives in a country with a long history of imposing America's will on the elections of others taking issue with the opinion of a foreigner on America's election.

No the point is  that you believe you are right about everything and can insult and demean  others who disagree with you because you  are the owner of this forum and can ban people when they have. a different opinion  on anything.

It's why you banned me from the  Politics thread and frankly I am happy.

16 minutes ago, downzy said:

would love to hear your take on Canadian politics.  Your ignorance about your own politics is jaw-dropping; I can only imagine how little you know about the politics of another country.   

This ladies and gentleman is why we have Trump as MY President its also why Brexit Happened.

Frankly I give up arguing with you about politics because frankly I no longer give a shit about your opinon because you have no power in America.

16 minutes ago, downzy said:

Amazing you won't even answer the question but have to dodge with some absurd notion that none of the 5000 kids who were separated from the people they claim were their parents (and whose parents claimed they were their kids) are actually who they say the are. 

How callous are you?

If they have proper Identification then they shouldn't be separated period. But sense most of them don't we have no idea who they actually are.. I suggest you do some research about the Coyotes.

Unrelated issue. I was harassed and stalked by the people who do the takedowns. They somehow found my social media and spread it to trolls. 

12 minutes ago, Whiskey Rose said:

Iyou are so correct, we shorten our vowels a teeny bit in words like "about".. we say it correctly ( hee hee) whereas the Americans really round out those vowels,  aboowwwwwt. I think my husband's jaw gets unhinged every time he says that word. 

I will forever and always say "eh?" But if you are from out west, you would be saying "hey?". 

 

 

What about Hockey, Tim Hortons and Maple Syrup? Do people in Canada love them?

Just now, downzy said:

You don't think forcibly separating kids as young as two (and sometimes younger) as cruel and evil?  

How do we know they are the actual parents? These people come with no identification. Do you know what Coyotes are?

1 minute ago, downzy said:

There was a time I was going to do that.  But I'm established in Canada with a family.  I'm not going to pick up my entire family and move to a country that's hell bent on its own destruction just to prove a point.

 

Then you don't  get to tell people they are wrong to vote for someone or lecture them about a country they live in and experience  the  complex Socio Economic Issues that are unique to America.

 How would you feel if I started lecturing you about Canada and rooting for  Conservative Party members to win elections when I don't live there or frankly care.

28 minutes ago, downzy said:

Interesting. So if you came to a family get together and discovered your brother or sister had become a member of the American Nazi party you would continue a relationship with them?

What about if in the 1980s a close family member was a staunch supporter of black Apartheid in South Africa?  

At what point does one's politics speak to one's humanity, or the lack thereof?  

How are the Nazis relevant to this situation? this is 2020 and not the 1980s

 A persons politics is their own fucking business everyone has their own reason for voting. 

If one is a Conservative and another person is Liberal why should that matter.

I disagree with people and I don't see them as evil just because they have a different  political opinion  .

Thats the difference between the left and the right. The left views everyone who is not them is evil. The right believes you are simply wrong.

I know you care about American politics. So here is a solution move to America, become a naturalized citizen then vote for whoever you want and let's have a serious discussion.

21 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Does Star Wars discussions include Phantom Menace and all them tedious discussions on trade conferences? 

Yes

41 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

I find this attitude inexplicable. As I said, I have a lot of friends and acquaintances with views opposed to my own. I think how it works is we all know when to shut up about politics and just focus on subjects like sport and beer. 

4 things that are true in life. Death, Taxes and don’t talk about Politics or Religion with Family

33 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Have you ever tried to ask them "why" they feel that way about Trump?  But with sincerity?   And just listed to what they had to say.  And instead of interrupting them with debate, continued to ask other questions?  Just to gauge where they are at?  

People who break off relationship because muh poltical  are incapable of having a political and intellectual heart to heart.

There have been studies that show that Liberals are more likely to do this then Conservatives 

10 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

Anyone who comes here LEGALLY isn't separated from their children or thrown in cages.  Illegal = breaking the law = end up in a cage.

We also don't know if they are actually their parents. I read a book about the Coyotes who exploit children and women by parring them up with random strangers leading to rapes sexual assaults etc. Sometimes the treatment people receive worse  treatment from the coyotes exploiting desperate people into making a deadly trip then the ICE Agents.