2020_Intensions

8 hours ago, DeNfr said:

CHAPTER 12 : He's in my ass, that's where Slash is, Fuckhead, go home!

To this day, still my all time favorite Axl moment .... the words, the timing on the delivery of said words 

11 hours ago, Illusion1987 said:

Yep! The world throws out a single breadcrumb about something/anything that could possibly be GNR related, on a very minor scale, and this site creates 500 pages to discuss.

Remember the Spotify "algorithms" and the album that HAD to be right around the corner ?

Now, we have an Axl Rose poorly constructed website, that could be real...or fake, and we are thinking its a lead to a solo album or an autobiography!

 

 

My joke wasn't about this forum, I was making a joke about a "News" section on Axl's website lmao 

Most useless "News" section in the history of the internet ???

Bucket & Finck (and Huge) > Modern Slash

Love So Fine. Listen to it a lot. I never watched and never will The General music video. Probably will never listen to it again either (saying that after all these years is such a crazy thing)

Just now, Rovim said:

and in many cases I'd say that's true, but it doesn't need anything else. it has its own function when I listen to his solo records, but I agree, so many ideas would probably turn into huge tunes with Axl, Slash, and Duff input or with the Gn'R polish there was a lot of potential there.

it's kinda what they did with half of Appetite. relied on Izzy's brilliance to lay the foundation for their sound.

Yeah, and I agree it doesn't need anything else. I think his songs the way they are are just fine. But many are, and I dont mean this in a negative way, basic. And with Axl & Slash, or even just Axl, these songs could be, sonically, bigger. An example: Spazed. With Axl on vocals, I feel this song would automatically be better.

1 minute ago, Rovim said:

yeah how can you listen to River and call it generic or uninspired and there's good stuff on every Izzy record even if not every album is as accesible as Juju and River.

When I first started listening to Izzy's stuff, there were many moments where I thought "Man if Axl sang on this, and Slash added some sleazy riffs, this would be a GnR song" 

On 3/17/2024 at 8:21 PM, evilfacelessturtle said:

That varies quite a bit by the album. 5 O Clock Somewhere got very little promotion by Geffen and still sold a million copies. I will grant that Contraband benefitted from promotion and the supergroup hype.

But of course, success is not a stand in for quality. I think anyone being honest will admit that Slash had more original riff ideas in his music than Izzy's simplistic chord progressions that have all been done before countless times. Someone can prefer simple chord progressions, but they have to admit Slash's ideas were more original, and in keeping with the type of riffs that made GNR famous. The Snakepit albums in particular have gotten more and more appreciation over the years despite their lack of promotion. Ain't Life Grand in particular, being released by a small label which went out of business just a few years later. While Izzy's name had been built up significantly in the past 10-20 years as this mythical figure, none of his actual music outside Guns seems to get mentioned alongside that.

There are more Izzy songs I'll listen to over Slash songs. Slash's two solo albums have some good stuff, but Izzy's songs are just more raw and heartfelt. I recently listened to 5 O' Clock and Aint Life Grand and for the most part it was meh. Izzy's albums are more enjoyable.

On 3/16/2024 at 11:58 PM, Blackstar said:

It can be argued, though, that Izzy did zero promotion and minimal touring, many of his albums were not even released globally at the time, and, in addition to that, he sang his songs himself. Slash, on the other hand, promoted the hell out of his projects and worked hard to establish his brand in various ways, like by collaborating with big names, etc. Axl didn't do much promotion, but he had the name and was out there touring. So it's not a fair comparison as far as impact and success, and the quality is subjective.

If released & promoted traditionally, Izzy's work would definitely be more known. There's a lot of good stuff in those albums. River, start to finish, is fantastic. 

10 hours ago, History2010 said:

Izzy retired from new music in 2016. He released two new songs that year. 

I don't count random single song releases. 

Izzy, like Axl, has also seemingly retired from releasing new music. Axl in 2008, and Izzy in 2010. Interesting coincidence. 

3 hours ago, Rindmelon said:

Possible, the Shacklers Revenge remix was mixed by Sean Beresford in December 2007, so it's logical to think other remixes were done around same timeframe. & also people heard some of these back stage in 2010 which narrows it down.

Right. And 2010 was the rumored (and Axl-given) date for when ChiDem 2 would release, along with the remix album. We also know ChiDem for all intents and purposes was finished and ready to go in 2006 (and 2002 really), so 2007-2009 is the most likely timeframe for when the remix album was worked on.

3 hours ago, DTV88 said:

Did brain or anyone else from GnR confirm when the This I Love remix vocals were done?  

I'm not sure about that. But we do know the remix album was worked on around the same time ChiDem was released, so most likely those vocals are from around that time as well. Definitely not after 2010. And since Axl planned on the remix album being released along with ChiDem 2, we can strongly infer he recorded those vocals specifically for the remix. 

45 minutes ago, Its Tino said:

I highly down the blood in the water lyric was specially recorded for the remix. Could it have been from a discarded track, sure. 

I don't. We know he rerecorded the vocals for This I Love specifically for that remix. And there's no other vocals used in those remixes from unreleased songs. It's actually, based on what we know, and the information we have, very likely that Axl simply recorded that line specifically for the Prostitute remix. 

27 minutes ago, Its Tino said:

Rephrase! We know which songs it’s NOT. My bad 😂

Yeah that's what we ended up assuming you meant lol

6 hours ago, Sweersa said:

Was listening to Velvet Revolver's Libertad in the car yesterday. 

It gave me some hope, as the current band is basically a blend of Velvet Revolver (old guns) and "New Guns". With the more traditional rock sound VR had, with the more experimental, or even weird Chinese era stuff, I think actual new material by this lineup would be good. I imagine Frank will play drums on new material, stuff that Brain or Josh wasn't involved with. 

3 hours ago, Rovim said:

Slash has an underrated ability to find a lot of variation in his sound and approach. Snakepit doesn't sound like VR which doesn't sound like SMKC, solo album, etc. 

imagine a hybrid of Chinese Democracy, some Contraband, with the energy of Let It Roll and American Man leads. with Fall To Pieces, Slither, and Sucker Train Blues it's clear that like Axl said, there was the ability to create another great Gn'R album without Izzy imho. Duff has also proved to be a gifted song writer at least to my ears.

You're all forgetting the most IMPORTANT factor to these desires. Axl writing lyrics and recording vocals. 

17 minutes ago, Rovim said:

Axl only expressed interest in film score as a listener, and in the hypothetical case of Gn'R not being active anymore in any capacity or whatever. he never planned to do film scores as far as we know which would make it a very different thing.

not releasing very much music doesn't mean Axl is not creative anymore I mean how could you possibly know how active he is when he's not talking about this shit? if you define being creative as writing and/or composing music, finishing it, and releasing it, then yes, but that is not the definition of being creative.

Axl being creative could be him composing a new tune playing his piano for example, or coming up with lyrics and vocal melodies and capturing that in the studio. we have no idea about that shit. the quantity of tunes he released in the last 30 years doesn't prove anything in that regard.

Yup, which is why before I made that point I said "commercially" to distinguish his creating and playing music personally from creating and playing to be released for the public to hear. Who cares what Axl is doing musically in private, for himself? I sure dont. I only care about what he's doing or will do that I'll be able to hear. 

1 hour ago, Rovim said:

I wonder how difficult it is if at all for Axl to write lyrics nowdays and how interested he is if at all in writing lyrics. also, did he write any new lyrics and vocal melodies and completed any tunes, even from the Chinese era since the reunion in 2016. so many questions.

Highly doubtful. I remember in the China Exchange interview he talked about interest in creating film scores, which I think he would be really good at considering the instrumental movie like quality of many GnR songs. But that was now back in 2016 and most likely has gone nowhere. I think, as far as commercial ventures goes, it's clear Axl has been creatively retired since 2008. Singing on a cartoon show does not count, as many hear like to think it does. Releasing 4 songs that are over 20 years old and pretending that they're new I think is the strongest evidence towards his creative retirement. 

5 hours ago, Grayfox said:

Yeah definitely would be worth asking him. Speculating is fun for a while but after a decade it’s become redundant. I like to just think it’s something like Nothin’ or Eye On You that was less “finished” and Brain thought was cool. 

This, or recorded specifically for the remix, are the most likely answers, a lot more than coming from an unreleased song imo, especially considering I don't believe there are more finished unreleased songs from ChiDem.

16 hours ago, Rindmelon said:

I'm guessing that he means that while the music comes from prostitute, the vocals are probably re purposed from an unreleased song.

 I still dont understand how The General & Monsters helps to narrow down where Blood in the Water vocals comes from. We have literally no information regarding this. How do we know that's even from an unreleased song? Axl could have recorded that specifically for that remix, like how he went back and recorded This I Love.

13 minutes ago, JimiRose said:

We did? 

Yeah kinda confused as to what he's talking about. I thought it was obvious that it instrumentally was a remix of Prostitute. I haven't seen anyone discuss Blood in the Water in regard to The General or Monsters either.

4 hours ago, Its Tino said:

We also got to slightly narrow down which song blood in the water is from. 

Huh?

The one thing I always loved about the BD Sweet Child is Axl's vocals I think they're so cool after it switches to the "new" recording 

3 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Yeah, it was ("the first GN'R reunion recording", etc.).

As far as I know, the rumour started from Mitch Lafon, then the producer of the T-Rex tribute album responded that there was no truth to it, but that there was another rumour about just Axl (without GN'R) recording a version for a different project.

But then "insiders" kept saying that it was a GN'R song.

Yup, and as far as I remember, this was basically all there was to it, and we heard nothing else since until now.