Declan Burke 1994

11 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

The earliest version of Better is from the early 2006 demo. Probably from the Piazza disc, which could be dated to 2014 or 2013-ish?

No in 2005 a instrumental version of better leaked I can remember because an instrumental version of twat also leaked from the same source 

6 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Thanks. I think this came from the GNR Central interview, right? https://gnrcentral.com/2019/01/19/guns-n-roses-central-interview-chinese-democracy-engineer-interview-dave-dominguez/

I can see this being something worked on for years. Robin brought it in 1998, but it was nothing more than the verses chord progression and maybe the main riff. Then in 2002, when Richard came on board, he added the small bridge and chorus. That was when Bucket also worked on his lead guitar. But then Axl only went back to record his vocals by 2003/04.

Yes that's the interview

19 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Didnt know that. What more did he say?
I believe Axl recorded the main verses of Better later indeed, but maybe he showed interest even as an instrumental piece?

He was asked a question of anything he worked that was on Chinese democracy he said he remembered better but at that time it was just a instrumental 

26 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

I dont think so. When Axl introduced Better back in 2006 in the Hammerstein gigs, he said something like "when Robin came out with this song, it was clear that it should be called Better". Or something like that. Sounds like when Robin brought it to the table, Axl soon showed interest.

Dave Dominguez was a engineer on Chinese democracy he was there from January 98 to August 98 and he said better was a instrumental

2 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

The bulk of the song could easily be from 2000~ though. And since it seems like Bucket recorded most of his stuff before 2002 I think it's entirely possible that 3 Dollar Pyramid is quite similar instrumentally to what he heard later as Better. But obviously, it's just speculation and we won't know until we hear it.

I hear better was a instrumental as far back as 1998 but was forgotten about them when fortus came in he must have had a interest in the old instrumental then the rest came together

1 minute ago, RussTCB said:

For the record, TB absolutely monitors this board closely. I'm not sure why though as they really couldn't care less about the fans or what the fans want. 

Do you think Axl monitors this board with a secret second account? 

4 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Interesting. I don't agree overall BUT it's an interesting theory for sure. 

But who knows maybe it is about Matt sorum

3 minutes ago, Freightrain said:

don't think so ...there's still the "save what we had" line.

i think it's about Izzy cause we all know how "cool" Izzy is and how he like to do things his way.

Maybe also it is about Matt sorum because he was never a yes man and done things his way also but I really think that it's about Kurt cobain

4 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

How would "save what we had" apply to Kurt? 

The to extend myself and lend you my hand part is about axl offering nirvana to go on tour and but you had to be a fool had to do it you're way had to be a fool had to throw it all away part is nirvana refusing to go on tour and I thought you could be more of a man part is kurt's suicide and axl calling him a coward

18 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

The best theories I've heard is that it's about Izzy or Adler. 

Kurt cobain if you add the lyrics together it is a possibility that the song is written about him

5 minutes ago, sl4yer said:

I saw some speculation that it may be about Kurt Cobain lol

Yeah that was me that said that on the gunsnfnroses forum 

8 hours ago, lukepowell1988 said:

It's all just a good laugh.

Man Utd will win nothing c'mon pep and the boys 

Is axlrosefan4life ok?