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  1. 8 hours ago, Sweersa said:

    Sebastian Bach mentioned in an interview recording three songs with VR when he was trying out for the vocalist slot. Apparently he was not picked because it sounded too much like "Skid Roses" Sebastian said something like "What did they think it was going to sound like?!" 

    I remember I've heard one recording back then.

  2. 5 hours ago, Blackstar said:

    Is there MTV pro-shot of that?

    Fifteen years ago I had heard from a greek fan that mtv had filmed the show fully because the date of it coinscided with the 2 year anniversary of the illusion tour.

    Interestingly, many people uploaded stuff I've never seen before.

     

     

     

     

    5 hours ago, Blackstar said:

    (If you mean the snippets in the MTV "Guns N' Roses in Athens" special back in the day, those were from the previous show in Tel Aviv, not Athens).

    So not Athens?

  3. On 12/21/2020 at 1:57 PM, jamillos said:

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    It's baz's fault.

    For me, it would be AFD 99, 1994-97 sessions (some of them are actually snakepit demos I believe!). Especially, back and forth again demo from Axl singing. We have that snippet only!
    Also, Athens 1993 live (mtv pro-shot). I can settle that with a time-machine (only 3 hours limit and I'm ok) back then.
    Even a footage with Axl singing dead flowers with Gilby in 2000 would be cool.

  4. On 12/22/2020 at 12:36 AM, GNRfanMILO said:

    The Perfect Crime documentary

    The 2010 SA Tour documentary

    Every single CD era song that has Axl in it

    Proshots from 2001, 2002, 2006 and 2010 (The Joint, Hong Kong, Hammerstein and Bucharest are some examples)

    Houston / Dodgers 2016 proshots. Another option could be a NITL best-of proshot with the list made by people from this forum

    AFD 1999

    The VMA 2002 rehearsal (doubted about including it, but it’s one of those that I’m really curious to check out)

    One of the 1991 theater shows that were shot on film, those would allow an Eagle Rock remasterization

    YCBM demo with Steven

    Home videos about the making of CD (don’t know if they exist)

    An Axl autobiography from 1994 to 2016

     

    Axl' autobiography in that era is a pretty cool thought.

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  5. 10 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

     

    His voice at Saskatoon was still "pretty good" too. And there was a pretty obvious transition over the course of the UYI tour, from the pure chainsaw rasp in '91, to the more controlled (and already damaged) voice in '92. to the thinner, strained voice in '93. With that in mind, the clean voice in the mid-late 90s isn't as surprising or alien as some fans made it out to be.

    You made a fair point. 91-93 excessive singing explains the transition of his voice. But did he constantly sing after 1993?
    No, except some studio sessions I believe. Shouldn't his voice become stable?

  6. 2 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

    I was listening to YCBM from the Saskatoon '93 show yesterday, and with the benefit of hindsight, it's really not surprising at all that 8-9 years later the guy was singing that song with a totally clean voice. His voice in the Saskatoon performance still sounded good but he was really straining on some parts - he'd obviously pushed himself beyond his limits at times on the UYI tour and it took a toll.

    Yeah but that doesn't explain why in the last concerts (Argentina 93) his voice was pretty good. We should see a bad transition if the damage was in process of the exhaustion. However his voice looked pretty cool till the end of the illusion tours.

  7. I didn't see any real improvement in the band after 2011. Axl's voice sucks nowadays, I enjoyed him more in AC/DC, the only way you can here him with rasp.
    Either way, for me the end was the reunion, it didn't catch my attention back then. After that I heared they're touring the world again. I was like, ok screw the nugnr thing and CD era, it didn't work so well after all. No mythical return with the CD, the return of the old members was more success I guess. So, I went along with it and said that's the best for Gn'R. But without a new album, no slimer Axl with rasp, this band is only gnawing the nostalgia that its entity produces.

  8. 1 hour ago, chris_1609 said:

    I think it's all about his physical shape. Just watch the 2006 concerts on youtube, especially Rock am Ring 2006. Great voice, even on YCBM.

    I think scom is the most challenging song. So 2010 perfomance is attributed to his weight as well?

     

    15 hours ago, mystery said:

    I think every recorded instance of Axl in those years has been covered. AFD 99, the remaining CD tracks, and the Gilby show would be great.

    It's a shame there's pictures but no known audio to go with the Gilby show. It could've easily been recorded today with the use of smartphones.

    Indeed. The scom bigdaddy version is part of AFD 99, right?

  9. 12 hours ago, mystery said:

    I think every recorded instance of Axl in those years has been covered. AFD 99, the remaining CD tracks, and the Gilby show would be great.

    It's a shame there's pictures but no known audio to go with the Gilby show. It could've easily been recorded today with the use of smartphones.

    Oh, we forgot the sessions with the songs that ended up as the next slash' snakepit album. It is believed that they could be the next illussion album if Axl hadn't turned down slash's creations.
    We have a snippet of Axl and Slash in the The Making Of Estranged: Part IV Of The Trilogy. Shame it's only a whistle and some guitar intro of back and forth again... Even the yeah part (the only singing) seems to be sang without helium voice :-P.


    Interestingly, the VHS Tape with the snippet was released in April 26, 1994. I consider it the last relic of the old GN'R era.

  10. Great points everyone!|
    Last time we heard the old Axl?
    I think it was with Bruce Springsteen, the sudden live perfomance of "come together".

    Or maybe the intriguing "sympathy for the devil"?
    It could be the mellow "dead flowers" with the friendly Gilby Clarke?
    Finally, the Axl Rose and Slash apart contribute with outpatience, the underground "anxious desease" in 1996.
    Even back then, (I agree with the previous posts) I think Axl's voice changed hell a lot somewhere between 1994 and 1996, cause "anxious desease" looks closer to live-era or even CD. I won't say the messy "oh my god", Axl's voice there is hard even to grasp.

    your thoughts, or another recording (live or studio) I might missing?

    On 12/16/2020 at 5:36 AM, mystery said:

     

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