metalavenger99

I don't know about a full rank because I have Scraped, Riad, Schacklers, and most of those fillers at the same level of appreciation in my list but my top 5 atm are: Better I.R.S Street Of Dreams Prostitute The General I don't know what it is about IRS that I like so much, nobody cares about that song, but it would be my absolute holy grail for a live concert, like miles and miles ahead of Locomotive or TWAT like it probably would be for most people... the lyrics are hilarious but that's what makes it special IMO too If we count the Chinese Demos ... man oh man... Zodiac 13 (the second version) Silkworms with the original intro Me&MyElvis Eye on You Then the "electronica madness": P.R.L, Circus, and similar ones

I just don't understand what are they trying to portray with the kids wearing the pink hoodies ?

Glad it's coming but that's the worst GNR artwork of all time

Interesting melody, interesting keys

Are you guys ready for the Kiwicunt posting his 15000 character long paragraph defending TB?

Thanks. I got one that is 8:08, that, aside from Youtube its pretty obvious where to find. And that poster is not known for bullshitting right? so idk... I do believe it is fake but only because it sounds absolutely hideous, theres no way a group of professional musicians are gonna come up with that even if its a rough demo

If it is just another fake piece of shit, then what's the deal with not saying that is right there on Youtube lol? How long is the version you guys are listening to? 4:00, or 8:08?

Same here

I don't have any idea actually, i just got it a couple of years ago or maybe even during the quarantine year, as "The General (New Version)" and it didn't said anything on the metadata. But no one was faking these back then. Everybody already had the Evader version which was very clear and these clips used to be everywhere.

One theory i would actually bet money on, is this: They chose to rework Monsters with Slash to address the fanbase (as crazy as it sounds), the vast majority thought that the cellphone clip was The General, even Fernando vaguely joked about that, right? Think about it, why wouldn't they follow the path of Absurd and HS and just go for Atlas + Perhaps? Why would they specifically chose to release what was considered the holy grail and then its "follow up" which is actually a completely different song??? They could've saved themselves from the risk of messing up like this, and people would still be excited about another EP like the one we had in 2021... But it was a smart move to capitalize on the hype while pleasing the hardcores, (the 9 min mashup on youtube quickly reached like 7k views on YT before it was taken down, so no, while the vinyl money could be insignificant next to the NITL cash, it's not only 34 forum nerds the only ones who care about this). So, Monsters was the one meant to be released as a vinyl only hidden track after TG. Similar to "Her Majesty" on Abbey Road, it was going to start playing after some weird seconds of silence... this, as a nod to the hardcore fanbase (with the obvious main objective of selling the shit out of it, that as the end goal all along, of course). It was found out not too long ago that it was registered as "The General and Monsters" but they probably didn't wanted to give that away too soon, and that's why it was never listed as that on the official store, for like 2 months or so, maybe a month and a half ... Enough time for Rock Radio Italy, which got that info (likely incomplete and not detailed), and since The General was the only track listed across all of the GNR official media and stores, they put out the exclusive news that The General was actually going to be released as a vinyl only track, never to be released on digital formats. That's basically it, this could be one explanation for all of that i guess. So what happened days prior to the 27th? That's where the other possibility may come into action here... the quality was a disaster and they tried to backup and get rid of Monsters and save it for a next release, but someone got it before they could follow trough without us knowing, it was too late. Now, if we only get The General on streaming services without the hidden track or without Monsters as a playable song next to it... then i'll be even more confident about this 👍

This possibility is the one i wouldn't rule out, maybe this explains why they just played The General now and not Monsters even though the registration and the themes on the lyrics seem to confirm that they are at least meant to be heard back to back. Now they could be trying to detach them from each other after the vinyl fiasco, it sounds unlikely but not completely impossible

I just read this at the popular posts section next to the comments This man made the right decision lol

What if the registration was a mistake? Could that mean that Monsters will be the B side to the next single? (If there is one)

That's the fucking General right there.... unbelievable, I agree with that poster a few pages back, this sure helps with very rough times in life.

This is the most surreal moment in the history of the band.........

NO FUCKING WAY HAHAHAHAHA

SHHIIIT Judging by the lack of streams we are fucked if someone here hasn't recorded it

What the fuck no way what

Sure no worries, i actually started deleting those last week because i just recently discovered that GunsNRosesFan_☆☆ channel on YT (i don’t know how the hell its still up there) with a ton of 2006 bootlegs and figured out that most of them might be there now but as a part of those longer videos, and yeah one seems to be from MSG and another one from Florida, however now that i checked, i couldn’t find on YT a couple ones (including Monsters) that i’m yet to delete, check your pms

Btw it leaked on this date, i didn't had an account but i started lurking here when the reunion was imminent and then i definitely remember this. It was 2018. Not to say that i don't believe that some people heard it before, i do believe that there's maybe people out there with very juicy CD material on their hands.

Kudos to you Voodoo and @Blackstar for this I have some of the intros that are no longer on YT that i downloaded in 2019, the orchestrations are different (although confusingly similar) and they were never played together as a mashup as far as i could find or remember now I think that what also happened (at least in most cases) is that we got so used to Evader's version that we never really got back to properly analyze the "intro". I was planning to do it this weekend because as i said, to me, it was the only big mystery remaining but i'm sure we already have the conclusion , and i can finally get rid of those files lol

I just listened to the cellphone clip for the first time after the leaks and yeah it feels weird because the song has been shortened. Or maybe im wrong? What i do hear now and i haven't thought about before, is that the solo kind of sounds like DJ lol, at least the simplistic style and that particular lead tone. was "scooped tone" the right description? I've been out of the guitar game for quite a while rn I mean We KNOW it's 99.99% percent not him, but it would be very funny if it was him all the time, how would everyone react lol, i personally don't hate the guy at all

Jesus FUCKING Christ anyone who doesn't think that's Slash's playing should stop messing around and listen to the SOLO on Monsters 10 times. How the hell can somebody be so much of a GNR fan to have an account on a die-hard fan forum but then they are not able to recognize who is playing that? The bends, the tone, the phrases that end with a two note sustain, the use of scales, and that fatass sounding lick before the mean Axl bridge. Maybe it's easier to recognize for guys that are familiar with guitar playing, but even so, i believe this is just clear as day. To me saying it's not him it's like watching a 90s movie where a T Rex chases a red jeep throughout a tropical island in the middle of a storm, and saying, "Well, that's not Jurassic Park! you know, this movie is called Godzilla, trust me..."

As i said, given that it comes from the same batch of The General and Monsters, Seven would be the next holy grail. My personal holy grail is Zodiac 13, but that's totally out of Slash's style, so it was probably left untouched and we are not gonna hear it in decades.

About that made up nonsense about Fortus confirming that Seven is Circus Maximus + D tune... i don't know where it started, but it sounds just like effortless trolling in the same nature of what the CubanDummy used to post here (some of which i actually found funny lol) or the random insider facts used to troll spanish-speaking casuals that some dumb asshole on YT keeps repeating, oh and that cunt is still brought up here sometimes... ffs What i'm 100% sure (because of the dates of the posts i read on Evo years ago) is that the theory that Seven is the same as CircusMaximus, predates the 4tus facebook q&a bullshit. Not otherwise. But even that speculation was based on Brain's comments on AFD about the origins of the song and/or how those titles could've played together, so.. we will have the answer if a CD box set comes out in 2048, until then, don't try to figure out more about it because at this point we will probably find out that what we thought it was Silkworms was actually the second part of Sweet Child o Mine