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On 3/24/2024 at 9:21 PM, ChristianGNR said:

Aren’t the Live Era vocals coming from AFD 99 sessions?

I was listening to Sweet Child from Big Daddy soundtrack and it sounds exactly the same vocals from Live Era. 

The Live Era vox were done in the summer of '99, I think. The AFD redux was put on tape a year earlier. Axl never confirmed or denied re-recording the lead vocals specifically for AFD redux.

The BD SCOM was said to be a mashup of an old live and a redux version (w/ Live Era lead vox). The new WTTJ (which almost got on the Black Hawk Down OST) would've likely been similar.

So, Dave says Goldstein and co wanted to do the same thing as Azoff and co. Humor Axl with his glorified solo album and wait for him to call Slash back.

That happened, only they overestimated Axl's drive to follow CD up with a "proper" Guns album.

That James Patterson book, probably.

The radio has always been a big deal for him, too.

Axl will back Fernando, assuredly. This is because Fernando will tell him it's all lies, lies, horrible lies. And Axl will buy that, because he feels he can relate.

They should livestream the trial, so we could hear how the management is shown to be piss-poor in a court of law.

"Y'r honor. we shall present some forum posts as exhibits..."

On 11/11/2023 at 8:41 PM, jacdaniel said:

I’m still yet to hear a proper guitar riff. Hate the copy/paste Frankenstein approach also. 
 

Even the lyrics. Everything seems to be some kind of resentful lyrics towards someone who wronged him. 

The copy/paste, as people point out, comes with the territory. We're talking material that's been ongoing for 25+ years.

CD was a bit like an internet restoration of a film that had crucial scenes existing only on low-quality VHS. Even with clean-up, the quality skips around. Insult to injury, Axl himself was the superfan leading the effort, which meant including a bit of everything.

The lyrics are definitely lacking. Monsters is lyrically TWAT-lite. The usual complaints, the bridge ending with a defiant "I've got nothing else to do!" Man needs to have priorities.

The General has a throughline and a purpose, but as OP said, it doesn't evolve to much. A bit surprised there's no Shackler's Revenge demon baritone to be heard.

And neither CD nor Riad is anywhere near Civil War, even if they are similar thematically. Axl's tweets show more effort nowadays than many of his lyrics.

27 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

I almost think GNR management has had enough with our side of the fanbase and is trying to just get rid of us. A lot of the hardcore fans seem very burned over this, and I don’t think I’m really going to be supporting the band anymore myself. People will write this off as a conspiracy, and it may be, but there’s almost no other explanation that makes sense. It really feels like the hardcore fans are just hated and something management and the band would rather be without.

Guns is a mass market band. Forums represent a fraction of the consumers. Forums dig up things the band would rather keep a lid on, because of reasons. So TB would have an incentive to view active forum posters as meddlers.

Their silence in the midst of all this speaks volumes.

15 minutes ago, BucketEgg said:

They post in the Indiana and Lafayette subreddits. it's currently 1:32 pm there, 26 October. Trolling, or they're lucky to have their copy shipped out early?

That's just Izzy.

On 10/16/2023 at 9:45 PM, meadsoap said:

People here were making fat jokes about him a week or two ago, so this is ironic to hear.

A decade ago, he looked like a mess, a bloated rock n' roll caricature of himself.

Since then, he's been on a roll to shed more weight on tours and to keep it down in between.

Haven't seen him this lean since before CD came out, TBH.

Maybe there's been a master plan since the Absurd release to curb expectations. If so, they've done a cracking job.

Every successive song has come out sounding better than the last. Yet, when you start with terrible, it's an easy way up.

On 9/14/2023 at 8:52 PM, HollyWoodRose84 said:

Anyone notice the shot of Axl throwing up the hand gesture in this photo

https://pagesix.com/2023/08/17/private-party-for-guns-n-roses-axl-rose-floods/

is the same hand gesture that was used as the alternate cover of CD? 

Well, kinda. But the joke seems to be that while everyone else is flipping the bird, Ax is raising all but his middle fingers.

6 hours ago, Beto 22 said:

If I can remember correctly, there were some information of tensions between Robin and Tommy against Paul.

Paul had tension with Slash and Matt, then at least with Tommy. "Attitude" is the word that kept cropping up.

Tommy, I think, also said something to the effect of some people in the '98 band were doing their first real album (Paul, Robin?). So they were at sea initially and that contributed to the tension with the more experienced players.

6 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Although some of the members joined after being recommended by another member (Josh Freese recommended Tommy, Buckethead recommended Brain, Tommy recommended Richard, Richard, mostly, recommended Frank)

Also, Robin got in via Matt Sorum (of all people!).

6 hours ago, Free Bird said:

I read that more than once but c'mon, that surely is just a rumor that can't have anything to do with reality. 

According to Beta, Axl had a litter of wolf dog puppies at the time. And given this is Guns we're talking about...

11 hours ago, drlaban said:

The real problems seems to have started when Sean Beavan was replaced by Roy Thomas Baker with the unnecessary re-recording of the drums & bass.

Yup. Beavan seemed to be liked by almost everyone in the band. Tommy and Bucket had issues with RTB. I can imagine Robin having some gripes too.

The one with the opening notes to Robin's Stevie Ray Vaughan-ish solo.

Just what Baz said. Axl's the George Lucas of rock, only he never quite bothered to release the trilogy back in the day.

NITL lineup with CD-era vocal tracks is likeliest route. It's certainly the easiest for Axl, even if it means binning months and years of studio tinkering. They'd be wholly new instrumentals - and Axl may troll us further by renaming the songs. Then it becomes a game of matching the vocals to the locker leaks.

The alternative is new vocal tracks. His voice is a lot different from the last confirmed studio sessions (2007ish). Discovering the current limitations of his studio voice is hardly a fun night out. So he may settle for playing the producer and pretending he did the vocals just the other day.

On 6/11/2023 at 3:04 PM, ©GnrPersia said:

AR: (Voiceover dubbing) In fact, I have been enslaved for many years by a Brazilian family, who torture me and force me to do things. (/Voiceover dubbing)

Maybe it's real and he wanted to send us a message for help this way. I wouldn't be surprised if that's true.

"She beats me all the time. It's an abusive relationship." - Axl on stage with Beta, Rock in Rio 2011.

On 6/2/2023 at 4:02 AM, GnR Chris said:

Kinda weird Tommy leaving would put him in a bad light with Axl (his words). Tommy gave the band almost two decades and wanted to be home with his family. Respect. I take it they no longer speak? 

Who do you think gave Axl the news that Tommy would sit that tour leg out?

While we're at it, it begs the question whether Ax was told the whole story there and then.

Maybe the church is front for a new webshop, where he'll sell his used t-shirts.

Never you've seen a sweatshop like Hell Rose Place!

Duff's book should've been called "How to be an ass", then. 

On 1/29/2023 at 3:07 AM, Dacroix said:

When he found out that the name of the band with Slash is going to be called "Slash's Snakepit" and not simply "Snakepit" as they talked, Slash told him it was Geffen idea to sell more: "I guess this was the moment when I stopped really trusting Slash. But  at the same time, I also came to accept that side of him; I now know exactly who he is".

Here, Sorum seems pretty clueless about what it means to lead a band that is signed to a big label. Snakepit was indeed supposed to be just that, then SVO (Slash's Very Own) Snakepit, and finally, Slash's Snakepit. Slash prefers being in a band over fronting a group of players. He would've been fine with "just" Snakepit. In comes Geffen and they talk about brand recognition and the recouping of investment.

Near the end of the Snakepit tour, the Geffen folks actually called Slash and told him, "Come back, Axl says he's ready to work on a new Guns album." Slash said they're still looking forward to do more shows. "Come back or you're on your own dime." That's how the label negotiated with Slash regarding the tour. The name issue was probably a similar story. "Own it up or we drop your band from our roster." 

Had Slash evoked the name Sorum, the label execs would've laughed at his face. How cute of Matt to think someone actually made the effort to stab him in the back - and the same goes for 2016, as he had no stake in the band / partnership anyway. The best he could've hoped for (and got) was a courtesy call to do some shows, and maybe slip back into Axl's good graces while doing it. But he's apparently not that bright politically to begin with.

On 1/21/2023 at 5:33 PM, Dacroix said:

And some people want this guy touring with Guns...

He deserves a shot to piss away his talent in front of thousands like Axl.

12 minutes ago, Liva said:

So Slash and Duff were left as members of an entity that couldn't use the GNR name to perform or release, kinda left out there in a rudderless boat.  Axl is the one that actually quit, he legally left the partnership even though in the Fax he sent MTV he says otherwise and still maintains otherwise.

That's a good point. Axl did indeed quit the band (partnership) and said he did it to protect the band. One can claim that he acted in bad faith, but S&D should've raised that issue up in late '95. Slash mentioned in his autobiography that he "really didn't know what to do" when Axl sent him that letter. Have a real lawyer look into it, maybe? Same goes to the band members agreements drawn up in Fall '96. In retrospect, S&D seemed to have been caught off-guard by Guns turning into a corporation and offering them employment.

Axl was not too interested in Zakk Wylde. He was more about the '96 version of Aerosmith Rocks, with Slash playing lead guitar. Just that soon after, he heard the DJ Shadow album...

Just to say, the Philly riot and the tour cancellation were likely settled out of court between Guns and ClearChannel. This means all parties would be forbidden to discuss openly about it.

In that case, should Axl go ahead and spill some beans, he could be looking at another lawsuit. Just how it goes. Money makes the issues go away, but can leave a blemish in the public record.

Short answer: Axl felt too sick to show up.

Longer, speculative answer: Goldstein (Merck) were informed about this in the wee hours after the MSG show. The management got anxious, as the artist had used up all of ClearChannel's goodwill by arriving late to the opening riot in Vancouver. Come showtime in Philly, they still kept a helicopter, the promoters, and the audience waiting.

Axl kept telling them that he's too ill to replicate the performance he'd just pulled off the other night. He was likely worried about his voice, too. Tour planning and itinerary had sucked, anyway. He would make it up to the Philly crowds on the next of these two back-to-back shows. Or so he thought, maybe.

2 hours ago, Powderfinger said:

Fat Axl’s ran it into the ground. If this band was a car it would be taken off the road. 

A vintage wreck that gets towed around by the party line so that people can reminisce what a rip-roaring engine it used to have.