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Just now, Nicklord said:

 

 

The Great Pretender is probably the most GnR sounding song on there. It has really amazing riff. It doesn't really have a chorus, it's just a bit louder verse that builds up to a riff the first time and to a solo the second time. Probably my favorite so far

Good to hear on the great pretender, because the reviews were hyping that as a standout song.

Any gems on there to anyone who has heard the whole thing?

If Slash made $45 million that means Axl probably made like $60.

Axl making that kind of money means Team Brazil is rolling in cash.

Are we ever going to get a single or anything?

This album is turning into the musical version of if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound.

His playing will be much more inspired when he is touring his solo stuff.

Aside from the money playing with GNR has to be soul crushing for him. They make no new music, and he is stuck with a rhythm guitarist and drummer that frankly are a downgrade on the GNR stuff compared to what he plays with in his solo outfit.

GNR songs always seem to sound much more alive and dynamic when played by anyone other than GNR.

They should seriously get rid of Melissa and her effects and Dizzy unless needed on a piano song.

All of that crap adds nothing to the songs, which is why they always sound better without it.

5 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Slash isn't paying Perla only as an ex-wife, but also as a business partner.

He apparently thought it was a good idea at the time to make her his business partner, and maybe she was really helpful. Regardless of whether it was it was a bad idea in retrospect, it was a choice he made and now he has to compensate her.

When you're married in the people's Republic of California you are stuck with your wife as a business partner whether you like it or not.

There is zero chance that is the accurate number of what he actually makes all in every month.

That would mean that even in the best case scenario assuming Axl makes double (it was rumored as either a 50/30/20 split or 50/25/25) what Slash does he is only then making $8 million or so a year if we are to believe that, and for a tour that has grossed hundreds of millions there is just no way that is all these guys are clearing.

If that is all they are clearing, it is time to bring in new management.

14 minutes ago, blackrose87 said:

What a joke. Stinks of pure cash grab and laziness. How can we make a shit tonne of money with little to no effort. No chance of them actually wanting to be creative and actually record new music. Appetite is great. One of the best rock albums ever but is it really gonna make any real difference remastering it along with some old demos and lies?!

There is one person that doesn't want to create new music. He's been living off Appetite for 25 years now. I am surprised that people still have the heart to get outraged about it when this is just what he does.

Axl should be forced to watch Fitz's drumming on the GNR songs during the SMKC run and then try and explain why he prefers putting a substandard product behind the drum kit.

This is not normal, as any real professional would sound infinitely better on that drum kit than Frank.

It is an embarrassing look for the band that Axl is OK with it.

Myles has always considered himself a guitar player(an exceptionally talented one) first who just happens to have a killer voice.

He'll be the first to tell you he is like a fish out of water on stage without a guitar in hand, and for the most part his time with Slash was his first time basically doing the front man thing.

Spending the first 40 years of life with a guitar in your hand makes transitioning to the front man roll tough, particularly when you admittedly aren't very naturally charismatic and would rather be playing a guitar.

He has actually come a long way from when he started with Slash to how he was at the end of their run.

I will be forever grateful to him for coming into Slash's life and giving us back the GNR stuff it seemed many of us would never get to hear Slash play again.

Easy to say now with the re-union, but as of 2008/9 many of us wondered if we would ever get to hear Slash  play SCOM/Rocket Queen/Jungle/Civil War/PC and so forth ever again as he hadn't (other than a one off here or there) at that point since he left Guns. That had been 15 years, and to many GNR fans who never saw Slash play them live seemed like an eternity.

Myles ability to single those songs credibly (whether you like his voice or not) opened up the back catalog for Slash again and brought joy to GNR fans everywhere who so desperately wanted to see Slash playing those songs again.

Frank and Richard would bastardize it so terribly I don't want to even contemplate what Axl would sound like on it.

I think vocals aside the GNR songs sound better and closer to the original with Slash's solo band than they do with Slash in GNR.

With SMKC there is none of the weird noises that come from Dizzy/Melissa that needlessly pollute songs, and Fitz is a light years better drummer than Frank on the GNR stuff. Slash also seemed to just sound/mesh better with Frank than he ever has with Richard.

The maddening thing about the GNR reunion has been that musically it would be so far ahead of where it is if Axl didn't insist on keeping Frank/Richard and crew around to some how vindicate (in his mind) his past GNR incarnation despite the fact it makes the product suffer.

Slash is playing the shit out of his guitar every night but is being let down by Frank/Richard, who just don't sound natural with him. 

Watch some SMKC shows playing the same GNR songs (ignoring the vocals) and it is startling how much better the same song sounds musically by just having guys on stage he meshes with. Axl will continue to jam a square peg in a round hole because that is what he does. but it doesn't have to be this way.

2 hours ago, Nosaj Thing said:

 

Slash is the star of this reunion. 

He's carried the GNR legacy on his back now for almost 25 years, even when Axl was doing his best to run it into the ground.

For as happy as I am to see him back in GNR I am equally as sad that it has come with the sky high price tag of no more new music and a mute existence. Slash fans had a great little run there from 2004 to 2014 where we got 5 albums out of him in his various groups.

I miss Slash/Myles & the Conspirators because I miss continually getting new music from Slash.

That was a golden age for fans of his from 2010 through 2015 with 3 new albums and all the touring.

I eagerly waited 20+ years for Slash and Axl to get back together, but seeing that happen at the expense of getting new music from Slash has put a huge damper on my GNR enthusiasm now that it is clear we are never getting new music from them, or at best Slash cutting and pasting parts on top of old music.

Myles was a Godsend for Slash as it gave him a chance to finally play out of the GNR catalog when it had otherwise been 20 years in the Wilderness for those who wanted to hear Slash play that stuff.

6 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

I thought no matter how many dollars would have thrown at axl he would have said no

You have any idea how expensive it gets to support multiple Brazilian families in California these days?

Axl needed the cash infusion a reunion provided to keep his ecosystem going. I suspect 20 years of spending like Axl Rose without the commiserate income had finally started eating into his financial health just a bit.

The reunion solved all those problems for as far as the eye can see.

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it's been 8 years since Axl's last album

Slash released 3 albums in that time period while having to share his lead singer with another band.

Axl is/was/continues to be why we have no music.

Slash and Duff would knock out a GNR sounding album in no time flat. As usual they are not the problem in this equation.

I don't use periscope often. Does it normally cut out as much as it seems to be tonight or is it my computer?

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Axl isn't blind to the fact that he is currently headlining 60,000 seat stadiums @ $300+ a ticket, in the U.S. (hardest country in the world to sell out stadiums for concerts)....when just 2 years ago he was playing residencies in Las Vegas.  He knows the importance of Slash and Duff.

He has definitely been humbled. If they left again he would be right back to small shows and no one caring.

That he has seemingly finally processed that after 20+ years is a good thing for all.

5 hours ago, maynard said:

Slash's drummer is much better than Frank

By orders of magnitude.

Frank isn't fit to carry Fitz's jock when it comes to playing GNR songs and having them sound the way people expect them too. 

Hell, I would argue Fortus could learn from Frank about staying the hell out of Slash's way and just being the rhythm guy in the background.

Sad as it is to say musically at this point Slash's band plays the GNR songs better than the reformulated GNR does.

We'd have a better sounding show with Axl fronting Slash's band (Duff could take over for Todd) than we get from the current GNR line-up.

Axl's continuing desperation to create the appearance he didn't waste the past 20 years of his career by shoving CD era guys and material down our throats even now with Slash back in the band is almost kind of sad. Everyone sees it for what it is at this point, but he will continue to overcompensate with his all things CD era emphasis when frankly no one outside of himself, Frank, Richard or the Lebeis family gives even one fuck about it.

On 6/5/2016 at 4:15 PM, Lumikki said:

Oh Axl. Doing this will only draw more attention to that picture and the various memes. You can't take on the internet and expect to win.

It's okay, Axl, we've all got unfortunate pictures of ourselves.

It was on the front page of NBC news yesterday.

Not a story about AC/DC, not the reunion tour, but a front page story on the photos he wants taken down.

Never in my life seen someone who works as hard as he does to get in his own way at every chance. He's just never going to get it it seems.

17 hours ago, IncitingChaos said:

Another argument could be made that Axl, Richard, and Frank are Guns N Roses..Duff and Slash are simply the touring part of the band. 

On no planet in this universe can that argument be made.

16 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

I think you can take all factors and combine them.. I have heard a lot of that stuff too from people.. I was literally just chatting to a friend/acquaintance on facebook who is going to Vegas.. She doesn't follow like we do but was still expecting Adler and Izzy to show up Friday..  She didn't know any details about the Troubador. She said she wants to here Rocket Queen, Anything Goes, Brownstone, My Michelle all of Lies and Dust N' Bones with Izzy.. I told her not to get her hopes up too high  

I've seen you mention Izzy a few times now and while I agree it would be nice if he was there clearly he doesn't want to be, or he would be there.

Should they not tour because Izzy seems to have no interest in making money and playing huge shows?

Financially this is shaping up to be a 9 figure tour. On no planet is it realistic to have Adler be the primary drummer. Guest spots would be fine, but he is just not reliable enough to have that kind of pressure on him.

I wish frankly they had taken Matt and Gilby out instead of Richard and Frank, but Axl is still trying to convince himself he didn't waste the last 20 years of his life so I guess that is the price we have to pay.

I love Izzy but I've moved on from him at this point as he clearly gives zero fucks about the band or its fans. We can't force him to play, and clearly he doesn't want to as I am sure they asked him at some point.

I would be more bothered about Izzy not being there if they were actively cutting him out, but the truth is he doesn't seem to want it so what can we do.