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  1. Not to specifically point out Guns but why do artists need to be poor to have integrity? Artists technically “sold out” when they started to get paid for club gigs. Some got $ to record an album. It’s always been a business. 

    Licensing music for commercials is bad, but licensing music for big budget films or images for t-shirts is somehow good? It’s the same thing 

    Get the $ while you can if you’re an artist. Tomorrow isn’t guaranteed. Just look at royalties for physical media 

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  2. 8 hours ago, Rovim said:

    these 2 songs are on the opposite side of the spectrum imo. I think Set Me Free worked better as a film soundtrack and introduction to VR cause it was simple, easy to digest, old school hard rock and it was indicative of the album's direction which was much more mainstream compared to Oh My God. One of the stronger VR tunes imo. Matt really came through with the bass riff and Scott delivered an It's So Easy-esque vocal melody in the verses with a catchy and energetic chorus.

    They didn't try to reinvent the wheel with this one so maybe there was less resistance from the get go to their sound. My guess is people still expected the first new Gn'R single to retain certain elements that were missing.

    Oh My God was heavier and more ambitious but it wasn't a good choice for a film soundtrack imo or as the first song to introduce new Gn'R. The muddy production probably didn't help for old Gn'R fans to connect to it. It took me a few listens to really fall in love with the song.

    I still listen to Set Me Free, but Oh My God is a classic for me.

    sidenote: I think the poor reception was a "tragedy" to Gn'R fans cause I believe that if it was received well, Axl would have gained enough confidence in the project to maybe mix the album and release it in 1999/2000.

    The issue was two fold. The song did fit amongst the vibe and bands on that soundtrack. However that phase in popular music was well past it’s peak culturally by 98/1999

    2nd was that the movie wasn’t very good commercially  

  3. Guns songs are just more vocally challenging. It’s the constant change of vocal registers and going in between them that seems to give him issues. If all he had to do was belt high notes with “rasp”, it would most likely be more consistent. 

    If he wasn’t prepared to tour, he’d blow his voice out the first week of shows

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  4. 57 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

    Is it possible or likely the mixes of Absurd and Hard Skool will be better on the physical copies than the digital download versions? I saw it suggested before.

    Also, since it's pretty clear we have vocals from Eye On You in it, do you think that could mean Eye On You will never be released?

    Well they will hopefully master it for vinyl. Low  end and any stereo synths are a few issues for any vinyl release. The original source is still digital though. The mix won’t likely change 

  5. Ticket prices fluctuate as it’s mostly now real time pricing. If the show is in extreme demand, the prices go up. If the show isn’t, they will go down. 

    For someone like GNR, I don’t think it should be a surprise that after multiple tours before and after the reunion, prices go down after their main fanbase gets their picking. The fact they are still doing stadiums regardless of the price to get in is great in itself. It probably won’t last forever 

    As far the Grammys, they simply wont put the time, effort or money to go after it. They don’t do interviews or promotion normally. Why would they change that stance for an industry award? 

    It’s also highly unlikely that GNR captures the social zeitgeist again in their careers. Their time has passed. You get the feeling that some fans are hopeful or are ready to measure them to that standard. That doesn’t mean they can’t release new music. It can even be some of the best they’ve ever done. It‘s just not 1989 any longer and these guys are pushing their 60’s. They’re a heritage act  

  6. 18 hours ago, TigerBubba said:

    So I’m bursting at the seems with excitement for my upcoming week where so will see GnR in Raleigh, NC on Wednesday (I’ll be in line to enter when the doors open to get a lithograph) and seeing The Rolling Stones the next night in Charlotte.  

    I know The Stones do lithographs for their shows, but seeing lots of show specific lithos on their website for sale, I’m assuming theirs are not limited.  Does anyone know about Stones lithos?

    I get a litho or show specific poster from every show I go to if they offer one.

    thanks for any info that any of you may have!

    Stones lithos at shows are numbered. The show litho off the site is not. They are usually the same otherwise 

  7. 3 hours ago, username said:

    I was tempted to buy the cd, but when I saw it wouldn't ship until late February (5 months from now) I figured fuck this shit. Not going to support such levels of unprepared amateurism. It's not like there wasn't any time to set this up either. The price seemed fair and even thought the shipping costs are more than the price itself that wasn't a dealbreaker. But these shipping times are. I'll reconsider it in February. 

    Shipping delays for physical media are unfortunately industry wide as supply chains are messed up. This has nothing to do with preparedness. Most vinyl releases are a year out

  8. 4 hours ago, Fitha_whiskey said:

    For the 1000th time, ever since Janet Jackson slipped a nip, the NFL decided it wasn’t into surprises. The performances are now required to be lip synced. The Red Hot Chili Peppers with guitars not plugged in, spawning the No Trickery line from Axl... that’s why the halftime shows are garbage now. Do we have to go over this every fucking year?

    “Maybe sometime before their actual performance, rather than use a guitar cord or standard wireless, in the name of science and for all mankind, Flea courageously had a newly invented breakthrough in microchip technology installed in his ass that picked up the frequencies of his bass and transmitted them to his amplifier ... Maybe they all had microchips installed in their asses and not only pick up the frequencies of their instruments but get DirectTV and the internet too!"

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  9. 17 minutes ago, surforia said:

    just saw this on the steve hoffman forums.  There are a ton of music industry insiders on there - who knows if it's true.  


    Brand new EP for Guns N' Roses called "GnFnR" will be published on every stream platform in two fridays.

    1 - "HardSkool"
    2 - "Wichita Lineman"
    3 - "Black Hole Sun"
    4 - "The Seeker"
    5 - "Bennie & The Jets"
    6 - "Absurd"

    Two brand new original songs, three studio versions of covers and a brand new unheared cover.


    What incredible foresight for Axl to record vocals for Black Hole Sun and Wichita Lineman back in 1999… 

    Seriously though, we’re way past taking the grain of salt when it comes to GNR rumors on message boards.

    No one knew about Absurd being released. If they are doing another short notice release, I doubt people know outside of their small circle


  10. 1 hour ago, Sweersa said:

    It's in management's best interest for an artist to perform, hence there are going to be pushed a bit. It doesn't equate to being aggressive like you implied. Axl hiring a housekeeper and her son for such a job speaks volumes, really doesn't need any explanation or much thought. They probably faked it until they made it, or made it as much as they are capable. I wouldn't be surprised if folks within the music industry find the whole thing highly unusual. Maybe it's best for Axl to hire his friends to be "management". I'm not going to hire the people who fixed my leather jacket zipper and replaced the liner to do my taxes because they are now my friends, and I'm comfortable around them.

    I'm sure GN'Rs incompetent management isn't helping matters with a music release, though it's probably not the only reason. We did get Absurd though, so that's something. If they manage to get Hardskool out by the end of October as planned, that would be cool. And a new album before the end of this year, even cooler. I'll give them props if they and the band see that to fruition. 

    I would say GN'R has had far better management in the past, with obvious results. Azoff was a real piece of work, but he did get us CD. We may not have even had that if it wasn't for him. If he behaved better, maybe we would have gotten CD2 in 2009 as originally planned. 

    There are different types of managers across the artist spectrum and even on GNR’s level. Some are professionals, some are long time acquaintances. For Axl at this point in his career, I think he values trust above all else. Others value a person’s influence to get certain agendas done. I also don’t see much of a difference between TB and managers from their past. 

    Yes Azoff forced the record out. However Azoff is also notorious for having other motives. He’s typically not into something for just the deal, it’s for another deal. He’s the ultimate power player in the industry.  He’s a great manipulator. Awesome if your interests align with him 

    With Azoff, I think it’s safe to say he was in to try and force a reunion, sit in the cut of a reunion tour and not a follow up of CDII. He thought getting the album released would have paved the way for that to happen. He’s done it before with other bands. Why Axl expected anything different going in however is a bit of a mystery. He’s not the person to hire if you weren’t open and ready for Slash to come back

  11. 37 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

    First off, I am not so sure it is the management's job to tell the artist what to do. That might work for new artists who need guidance and counsel in how to navigate the industry. For seasoned artists management becomes more of facilitators, to do as they are told by the artist.

    Secondly, how do you know Team Brazil hasn't tried to make Axl release more music? Are you simply going from the fact that the band hasn't released an album on new music since 2008 to concluding this is because the management isn't doing what you would like them to do? Isn't it more reasonable to put blame for the poor productivity on the artist and not on the management?

    Thirdly, is there a history of managers successfully being able to make Axl do anything? Much less make him release music when he doesn't want to? Does even the thought of a manager somehow coercing or manipulating Axl into releasing music make sense? I find it hard even picturing it.

    Yep. Artists typically tell management what they want out of their careers and it’s management’s job to implement and carry out that plan. I highly doubt Axl Rose is ok with being told what to do and how to operate his band 

    They’ve had professional management. They’ve had Irving Azoff. None of it really mattered when it came to functionality. He refused to do promo for the record that was released, sued his manager, and continued to show up late at shows, etc..

    Axl is probably comfortable with TB. They run the business how he wants. If you have problems with TB, well it most likely stems from the top 

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  12. You touched on the issue. There are too many good songs that people enjoy to whittle it down to a single format

    At that time, the band could have imploded at any time. Whether by members quitting, fired or succumbing to their addictions. It was probably a good thing to get those songs completed. Unfortunately that’s pretty much what happened and the wait for the follow up took nearly two decades 

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