Demon Wolf Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 Hey all, recently purchased a Gigabyte GeForce 9800GTX+1GB and it works great... when it works.Now when I play games (Empire Total War), my comp has started to freeze, showing red lines over the screen. The only thing I can do at that point is to turn the computer off.I have installed the latest drivers and everything. I checked my temperatures and the GPU temp when it last froze was only 56 degrees.Now occasionally, it freezes showing red lines even when I'm not playing games. Anybody know how I can fix this? Specs: Amilo La 3420-22PWindows Vista Home PremiumAMD Phenom Triple-Core 8550, 2,2 GHz4 GB DDR II 800Mhz RAM Quote
GET OFF AXLS BACK Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) A friend had the same problem, turns out it was a faulty card, it happens.It could be numerous things other than a faulty card, power supply, cpu.Check the card is seated properly, then check the supplementary power supply, make sure the fan on the card is working and free from dust or obstructions.Running memory diagnostics from administrative tools in control panel, could be a memory problem. Edited March 30, 2009 by GET OFF AXLS BACK Quote
Demon Wolf Posted March 30, 2009 Author Posted March 30, 2009 A friend had the same problem, turns out it was a faulty card, it happens.It could be numerous things other than a faulty card, power supply, cpu.Check the card is seated properly, then check the supplementary power supply, make sure the fan on the card is working and free from dust or obstructions.Running memory diagnostics from administrative tools in control panel, could be a memory problem.I think I've cracked it. My power supply is 250-300W and I need at least 400W. Looks like I'll be getting a new one.Luckily they're quite cheap. Quote
The Sandman Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 Wait. You're running a Gigabyte GeForce 9800GTX+1GB - with a power supply that low?That baby should be about 550W plus MINIMUM. Or you'll run the risk of frying your entire system. Quote
Demon Wolf Posted March 30, 2009 Author Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) Wait. You're running a Gigabyte GeForce 9800GTX+1GB - with a power supply that low?That baby should be about 550W plus MINIMUM. Or you'll run the risk of frying your entire system.I had no idea, honestly.Card has been taken out, no damage done, luckily. What PSU would you recommend? Edited March 30, 2009 by Demon Wolf Quote
highvoltage Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 Wait. You're running a Gigabyte GeForce 9800GTX+1GB - with a power supply that low?That baby should be about 550W plus MINIMUM. Or you'll run the risk of frying your entire system.You know, I used to think the same thing, but it's honestly a myth that a lot of gamers propagate. 550w for that system would even be overkill. A 450w power supply would provide more power than you'd ever draw even with every component maxed out on load - http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3413 Quote
Demon Wolf Posted March 30, 2009 Author Posted March 30, 2009 Wait. You're running a Gigabyte GeForce 9800GTX+1GB - with a power supply that low?That baby should be about 550W plus MINIMUM. Or you'll run the risk of frying your entire system.You know, I used to think the same thing, but it's honestly a myth that a lot of gamers propagate. 550w for that system would even be overkill. A 450w power supply would provide more power than you'd ever draw even with every component maxed out on load - http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3413I did find a rather cheap one, ATX 500W, 20/24pin.So that would do? I'm not gonna overclock and stuff, I ran all the games I wanted to play on full settings with the card. Quote
highvoltage Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 That would be completely fine. Remember, your system is running now - it's only breaking under load. Doubling it's power supply is going to give you more than enough headroom. Quote
Demon Wolf Posted March 30, 2009 Author Posted March 30, 2009 That would be completely fine. Remember, your system is running now - it's only breaking under load. Doubling it's power supply is going to give you more than enough headroom.Awesome, thanks for the help! :xmasssanta: Quote
The Sandman Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 Wait. You're running a Gigabyte GeForce 9800GTX+1GB - with a power supply that low?That baby should be about 550W plus MINIMUM. Or you'll run the risk of frying your entire system.You know, I used to think the same thing, but it's honestly a myth that a lot of gamers propagate. 550w for that system would even be overkill. A 450w power supply would provide more power than you'd ever draw even with every component maxed out on load - http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3413Shrug, I've read various things on both. I run with a 550W one and have had no problems. Although I do agree most of the time you won't be using more than 75% of the supplied power even whilst gaming at high spec.I would certainly pay out for a decent branded one at the very least, and still certainly go above the recommend wattage for future proofing.To each their own really - I've known people to use less than recommended and fried things - or the PSU itself (although I'd tip that to be more at the door of the PSU.) - so better be safe than sorry! Quote
kevin Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 Oh god let's not talk about power in Integrated Circuits, please please please.Did you know in current processes, 30-40% of power consumption comes from subthreshold leakage ??? If we made bigger transistors that would drop like FUCKING CRAZY. Quote
Max™ Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 Corsair, Seasonic and Tagan are what you should be looking for. Corsair do a great 450w PSU for about £50. Quote
Demon Wolf Posted April 1, 2009 Author Posted April 1, 2009 Corsair, Seasonic and Tagan are what you should be looking for. Corsair do a great 450w PSU for about £50.Yeah I am getting a Corsair one on friday. 450W or 550W.Would a 450W be enough? Quote
Max™ Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 Corsair, Seasonic and Tagan are what you should be looking for. Corsair do a great 450w PSU for about £50.Yeah I am getting a Corsair one on friday. 450W or 550W.Would a 450W be enough?Yup. I run loads more on a 550w PSU, so you shouldn't have any problems. Quote
MAFIA Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 1st u need to know that LINES on computer doesnt mean your power suplier is bad,it means your graphic card need better drivers to fix bugs and color refresh...But yeah,9800 needs 400w and best one on market under 70$ is FORTRON BLUE STORM 2 400W and i have it on overclocked 9600 ultra amp with overclocked cpu and 4gb memory,4 hard drivers 5 coolers and crazy number of stuff like webcam,mic,phones,printer,scaner,fax,bluetooth,mobile card reader ....load is always great,better then corsair !! Quote
Demon Wolf Posted April 1, 2009 Author Posted April 1, 2009 Corsair, Seasonic and Tagan are what you should be looking for. Corsair do a great 450w PSU for about £50.Yeah I am getting a Corsair one on friday. 450W or 550W.Would a 450W be enough?Yup. I run loads more on a 550w PSU, so you shouldn't have any problems.Okay great, thanks for the help! Quote
highvoltage Posted April 2, 2009 Posted April 2, 2009 1st u need to know that LINES on computer doesnt mean your power suplier is bad,it means your graphic card need better drivers to fix bugs and color refresh...That's a general first port of call, but if he's only got a 200w PSU powering his system, then it's pretty obvious that's the problem. Quote
Demon Wolf Posted April 2, 2009 Author Posted April 2, 2009 Yes, and all the drivers were the most recent...Anyways, thanks all for your help, I shall be getting a Corsair 550W PSU on friday and that'll hopefully sort everything out. Quote
Bromle Posted April 2, 2009 Posted April 2, 2009 1st u need to know that LINES on computer doesnt mean your power suplier is bad,it means your graphic card need better drivers to fix bugs and color refresh...That's a general first port of call, but if he's only got a 200w PSU powering his system, then it's pretty obvious that's the problem.Have to agree with high here. The shortage of power is most likely to cause some shortcommings on the card itself. It is design to draw more power, and when it doesn't get enough, it get's sloppy. Although it wouldn't be a bad idea to check for updated drivers. Quote
Demon Wolf Posted April 9, 2009 Author Posted April 9, 2009 Well got a new PSU, the problems remain. I have tried with newest drivers, older drivers, etc.Red lines appear, comp crash. I sometimes get a "nvlkkddm" error or something and get returned to desktop saying my drivers stopped functioning but were recovered.I mean, the PSU can handle the card, so the question is what is wrong... If I take the card out and put my old one in, everything works fine. Quote
Bromle Posted April 9, 2009 Posted April 9, 2009 Sounds like a faulty card. If you recently bought the graphic card, try to get your money back or a new card. Quote
santana Posted April 9, 2009 Posted April 9, 2009 Well got a new PSU, the problems remain. I have tried with newest drivers, older drivers, etc.Red lines appear, comp crash. I sometimes get a "nvlkkddm" error or something and get returned to desktop saying my drivers stopped functioning but were recovered.I mean, the PSU can handle the card, so the question is what is wrong... If I take the card out and put my old one in, everything works fine.What are the specs on the new PSU? Quote
Demon Wolf Posted April 9, 2009 Author Posted April 9, 2009 Well got a new PSU, the problems remain. I have tried with newest drivers, older drivers, etc.Red lines appear, comp crash. I sometimes get a "nvlkkddm" error or something and get returned to desktop saying my drivers stopped functioning but were recovered.I mean, the PSU can handle the card, so the question is what is wrong... If I take the card out and put my old one in, everything works fine.What are the specs on the new PSU?The PSU is a Corsair 550W, so it should definately handle the card.Everything works great if I put my old graphics card in, so it is not faulty RAM or any other hardware that someone suggested.I guess I should just take the card back. Quote
GET OFF AXLS BACK Posted April 9, 2009 Posted April 9, 2009 Well got a new PSU, the problems remain. I have tried with newest drivers, older drivers, etc.Red lines appear, comp crash. I sometimes get a "nvlkkddm" error or something and get returned to desktop saying my drivers stopped functioning but were recovered.I mean, the PSU can handle the card, so the question is what is wrong... If I take the card out and put my old one in, everything works fine.What are the specs on the new PSU?The PSU is a Corsair 550W, so it should definately handle the card.Everything works great if I put my old graphics card in, so it is not faulty RAM or any other hardware that someone suggested.I guess I should just take the card back. Like i said some times you just get a faulty card, that PSU is more than enough. Quote
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