Was Adam Robbed of the Title?

[Guest Apollo]

You just have to shrug it off and not let it bother you.

A lot of people on here say things that they would NOT say in a face-to-face situation.

And there are a lot of posters who really don't mean you any harm, they are just trying to be funny. You just have to roll your eyes and ignore them. Once they see that you are getting uptight about the one word, they are going to pour on the sarcastic/funny comments.

[EternalFlame]

If someone would have kindly said " hey look, you made a mistake," that is fine. But someone told me I was SLAUGHTERING the English language.

That was purely sarcasm, and a ridiculous overstatement. I'm sure the guy would say so himself.

It is not an overstatement. That is what he said.

[maXx]

If someone would have kindly said " hey look, you made a mistake," that is fine. But someone told me I was SLAUGHTERING the English language.

That was purely sarcasm, and a ridiculous overstatement. I'm sure the guy would say so himself.

It is not an overstatement. That is what he said.

i meant an overstatement on his behalf

[EternalFlame]

If someone would have kindly said " hey look, you made a mistake," that is fine. But someone told me I was SLAUGHTERING the English language.

That was purely sarcasm, and a ridiculous overstatement. I'm sure the guy would say so himself.

It is not an overstatement. That is what he said.

i meant an overstatement on his behalf

Hah, for a minute there, I thought I was not only being attacked in an unpleasant way because of one measly grammatical error I made, but also for being sarcastic when I wasn't.

[maXx]

If someone would have kindly said " hey look, you made a mistake," that is fine. But someone told me I was SLAUGHTERING the English language.

That was purely sarcasm, and a ridiculous overstatement. I'm sure the guy would say so himself.

It is not an overstatement. That is what he said.

i meant an overstatement on his behalf

Hah, for a minute there, I thought I was not only being attacked in an unpleasant way because of one measly grammatical error I made, but also for being sarcastic when I wasn't.

misunderstandings are a bitch

[Inverted Mind]

suck it, bite it, love it

[RJ88]

does it really matter? Winning AI just gets you a record deal. alot of the losers get deals regardless and end up having better careers then the winners

just look at Doughtry. loosing AI was the best thing that could have happened to him

[Guest Apollo]

does it really matter? Winning AI just gets you a record deal. alot of the losers get deals regardless and end up having better careers then the winners

just look at Doughtry. loosing AI was the best thing that could have happened to him

Why was losing the best thing that happened to him?

You pick ONE guy out of literally hundreds of losers and use him as your example?

All of the winners have had huge careers. Grammy award winners, billboard record breakers, multi-platinum albums, etc. Clarkson has the number one song on the VH1 countdown this week - would she have been better off coming in 5th place?

Every winner except for one has nothing but a huge succesful career.

But maybe 5% of non-winners have found success.

The LEAST successful winner has had a better music career since Idol than 99% of the people who didn't win.

Look, I could care less about AI and the pop musicians it produces.

But at least get your facts straight.

[jmapelian]

Adam will be just fine.

The 12-16 year olds out there need a sugar-coated pop rock singer to idolize over for an album or two.

So the winner of the show is voted on by the general public? So how exactly was Adam robbed then? If the other guy got more votes . . . then that means MORE people thought he should win than Adam . . . . how exactly does that equate to him being robbed???

Because, Kris knew Adam should have won. All the judges knew, even Simon. So Adam was robbed of the title.

To deprive unjustly of something belonging to, desired by, or legally due - He was deprived because of America's votes. Obviously, I am an Adam fan. I am not saying Kris didn't deserve it, but Adam has better vocals, and it is a SINGING competition.

So are you saying that the millions of people who voted in the competition SPECIFICALLY voted against Adam just so he would lose?

Or are you saying that the show American Idol purposely did not report all of the votes just so Adam would lose?

The winner is based on who gets the most votes from the voting public - not on who Paula Abdul thinks should win . . . correct?

In "your" opinion, you feel that Adam should have won. That's cool.

But apparently the majority of people felt that the other guy should win . . . so again, please explain to me SPECIFICALLY how come your choice was robbed. How was Adam "deprived unjustly of something legally due" to him . . . when the rules were pretty simple.

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Well, when you consider that 38,000,000 votes came from arkansas because of some phone voting software and arkansas represents about 1 percent of the USA's total popation; you could see how people outside or arkansas felt adam was robbed. For adam to have overcome that, he would have had to receive 85 percent of the remaining 60,000,000 votes or so. And to Adam and Kris' credit, they've both handled themseves like class acts' and have been very gracious to each other.

[Guest Apollo]

It's funny, earlier people are complaining that the reason AI doesn't reveal vote numbers is because they are rigging the competion.

Now people are saying that AI released the total number of votes that came from ONE state.

You can't have it both ways people.

"AT&T spokesman Ted Wagnon told us today, “AT&T does not divulge or confirm how many votes were cast in any state.”

The 38 million votes has been proven to be an internet rumor. No doubt started by angry Adam fans.

Yes, both Adam and Kris have handled the announcement with class. Shame that Adam's fans haven't.

The explanation that makes the most sense is that the Gokey vote went to Kris. I read that 88 million votes were cast that week, with Adam winning, Kris coming in second and Gokey losing and going home. Adam ended up with a million more votes than Kris. So hypothetically let's say it was 33 million for Adam, 32 million for Kris and 23 for the Gokey guy. The majority of those 23 million votes most likely went to Kris.

Consiperacy theories are fun. When i was a teen I thought Bigfoot was real.

Edited May 24, 2009 by Apollo

[nathalie92]

Adam should have won period, in the end Kris won but Adam is a superstar and like Paula said hes going to be iconic!!

I like Kris but hes more of the same, boy next door, christian and more appealing to the masses in general, but that doesnt mean that he was the best singer of the competition.. Adam got stronger with each performance, he had from the very beginning the confidence and the stage presence of a great frontman, he took my breath away with so many of his performances, even tears when he sang A change is gonna come. So America got it wrong but then again is not the first that it happens on this show...

Edited May 25, 2009 by nathalie92

[Naupis]

Losing was really the best thing to happen to the kid. You win and you are kind of stuck into wherever they steer you.

Brian May told Rollingstone they are giving serious consideration to asking Adam to be the lead singer of Queen.

"After Lambert's performance with the rock legends on the American Idol finale last week, Queen guitarist Brian May told Rolling Stone magazine that the band is toying around with the idea of Lambert becoming Queen's permanent frontman!

Says May: "…[Drummer Roger Taylor] and I are definitely hoping to have a meaningful conversation with [Lambert] at some point. It's not like we, as Queen, would rush into coalescing with another singer just like that. It isn't that easy. But I'd certainly like to work with Adam. That is one amazing instrument he has there."

Not that he would even take that gig if offered, but not winning gives him the opportunity to consider these types of things.

The rock world is falling over themselves to work with this kid. His vocal range is otherworldly, and you would have to be out of your mind not to want to work with him as a rock act if you are looking for a singer. The fact he is gay and kind of fruity doesn't even come up in most circles because his talent is overwhelming, and not that that kind of thing should matter but I suspect ordinarily it might be a turn off to most in that genre.

I look forward to seeing where he goes, but I hope it is more rock than pop as he has a real gift vocally and rock music could use a few more booming voices like that. You can make any pop singer sound good with a few pro-tools, but you can't create that type of range with a computer program.

[Guest Apollo]

I personally enjoyed Kris more than Adam.

After watching tons of youtube videos to compare.

I think Nathalie's comments sum up my feelings almost perfectly.

You get what you see with Kris. A singer.

With Adam, you get a showman with flash. A "superstar" and somebody who might be iconic.

Christina Aquilera is a singer. Britney Spears is a superstar who is iconic in the pop world.

I'll take the good old fashion singer over an icon any day of the week.

[Iluvrocknroll1979]

They say when I door closes a window opens. I think is not a bad thing that he did not win as I've heard he has received so many offers already, which is good, cuz that way he'll have different choices as opposed to winning American Idol where he would have been stuck.

[moreblack]

that's what I'm thinking. By not winning, he will enjoy a greater freedom with what he does than Kris will...

[young_person]

I wouldn't say he was robbed, since Kris also had a ton of talent, but I do think Adam is better. I can't wait to see what he is going to do!

[Guest Apollo]

Every Idol winner has had a successful career.

Every Idol winner except one has had a better career than the second place winner.

I'm baffled why people keep saying that it's better to not have one.

In 7 out of 8 years, the first place winner has beaten the second place winner career wise since the show.

[Naupis]

In 7 out of 8 years, the first place winner has beaten the second place winner career wise since the show.

In none of the 8 years has some of the world's greatest musicians been falling all over themselves to work with the runner up the way they are Adam. If he called Brian May tomorrow and said he wanted to do the Queen thing it would happen. If he calls up Slash and says come play on my album for a song, he will be there. He wants to sing a Zeppelin song on the show, sure, no problem. Happens to be the first and only time they have ever let anyone use one of their songs, probably because they knew he had the talent not to make a mess of it.

No runner up has ever had that type of credibility with such high caliber artists. You can continue to believe what you want, but comparing this season to any of the past 7-8 is comparing Apples to Oranges.

David Archuleta last year didn't exactly have the likes of Brian May beating his door down to work with him last year. This kid is in a totally different league whether you choose to believe it or not.

[moreblack]

Every Idol winner has had a successful career.

Every Idol winner except one has had a better career than the second place winner.

I'm baffled why people keep saying that it's better to not have one.

In 7 out of 8 years, the first place winner has beaten the second place winner career wise since the show.

I thought both Clay Aiken and Catherine McPhee did better than the winners. What about Daughtry?

[young_person]

Every Idol winner has had a successful career.

Every Idol winner except one has had a better career than the second place winner.

I'm baffled why people keep saying that it's better to not have one.

In 7 out of 8 years, the first place winner has beaten the second place winner career wise since the show.

I thought both Clay Aiken and Catherine McPhee did better than the winners. What about Daughtry?

That's a good point. Then there's Jennifer Hudson... So, it's proven that Adam will get a shot at a decent career.

[Turn_It_Up]

Every Idol winner has had a successful career.

Every Idol winner except one has had a better career than the second place winner.

I'm baffled why people keep saying that it's better to not have one.

In 7 out of 8 years, the first place winner has beaten the second place winner career wise since the show.

I thought both Clay Aiken and Catherine McPhee did better than the winners. What about Daughtry?

That's a good point. Then there's Jennifer Hudson... So, it's proven that Adam will get a shot at a decent career.

Hudson and Daughtry didn't finish 2nd place. Believe Hudson was 7th and Daughtry 4th.

Aiken did outsell Studdard somehow...not sure about Hicks vs. McPhee. Think he ended up barely ahead in sales though probably the closest(and most dismal) 1-2 ever and both quickly dropped by record label.

McPhee should do porno instead...

Edited May 28, 2009 by Turn_It_Up

[nathalie92]

And i would like add the fact that Constantine was recently nominated for a Tony Award thanks to his work on Broadway..