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Doesn't sound quite right when Americans try to sing it... ends up sounding like a poorly imitated English accent.

Wasn't awful though. Certainly not vomit inducing. :lol:

Not just that...its all very umm...i dunno, i always thought of The Clash as anti-establishment? These are the guys that chose to forgo royalties so they could sell double and triple albums at cut prices for the man on the street. These are the guys who sang about...not being a part of this corporate crap. There is the argument i suppose about how thats what they became in the end but its also the reason (or partly the reason) that they couldn't carry on. I mean, they pretty much broke up when they made it big. There is a message in that.

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Doesn't sound quite right when Americans try to sing it... ends up sounding like a poorly imitated English accent.

Wasn't awful though. Certainly not vomit inducing. :lol:

Not just that...its all very umm...i dunno, i always thought of The Clash as anti-establishment? These are the guys that chose to forgo royalties so they could sell double and triple albums at cut prices for the man on the street. These are the guys who sang about...not being a part of this corporate crap. There is the argument i suppose about how thats what they became in the end but its also the reason (or partly the reason) that they couldn't carry on. I mean, they pretty much broke up when they made it big. There is a message in that.

TBH I don't give a fuck what artists stand for. It's all about the music.

They just respect the music, besides, The Clash sell and mass produce their albums too. If I can pick it up at Best Buy, it isn't anti-establishment. It's feeding capitalism.

Well its what the music stands for too, listen to the lyrics, they're tryna tell you something. I hear this argument a lot, that y'know, if they're anti-establishment, how can they enter into the mainstream because they're meant to be anti-establishment well the simple answer to that is to conquer a country you have to invade it, which is what bands like The Clash and The Sex Pistols were doing. The Clash fed capitalism, sure but how many bands do you know would forgo royalties on their albums just to make sure that people like you and i who might not have 15 bucks to spend on an album get what they want for 10. At their own expense. I don't see a lot of that nowadays, from the so called "ones who care". Its easy to have a cause but how many people put their cock on the chopping block like that?

The things the artist stand for are reflected in their work, i constantly care about what things stand for, to me its ridiculous to be any other way, thats like voting for a guy not cuz you agree with any of the policies but because you like the sound of their voice or something.

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Doesn't sound quite right when Americans try to sing it... ends up sounding like a poorly imitated English accent.

Wasn't awful though. Certainly not vomit inducing. :lol:

Not just that...its all very umm...i dunno, i always thought of The Clash as anti-establishment? These are the guys that chose to forgo royalties so they could sell double and triple albums at cut prices for the man on the street. These are the guys who sang about...not being a part of this corporate crap. There is the argument i suppose about how thats what they became in the end but its also the reason (or partly the reason) that they couldn't carry on. I mean, they pretty much broke up when they made it big. There is a message in that.

You are probably one of the dumbest posters I've seen on this forum. If a band can't enjoy making music even after they've reached a massive audience, then they are pathetic. I don't know much about The Clash, but if they broke up because they reached a wider fanbase, then that's disgusting. Making music is about making music, not about who enjoys it.

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You are probably one of the dumbest posters I've seen on this forum.

Thanks.

You are probably one of the dumbest posters I've seen on this forum. If a band can't enjoy making music even after they've reached a massive audience, then they are pathetic. I don't know much about The Clash, but if they broke up because they reached a wider fanbase, then that's disgusting. Making music is about making music, not about who enjoys it.

Maybe it has something to do with what you stood for at the point of your inception? Its a little difficult and i can see how it might be so sing about squatting and career oppertunities and garageland on a huge stage in front of 50,000 people at Shea Stadium. Its a hard balance to strike to be trying to be anti corporate without feeling sometimes that you're becoming part of the machinery that you set out to rally against. You find that disgusting? I find it rather noble...they coulda carried on, went for the big money, they sure were at that point in terms of popularity but they didn't. Granted internal struggles had a lot to do with their breaking up too but it was the other as well.

Joe Strummer could have a house out in Malibu next door to Axl Rose, with campfires on the lawn and a bunch of dirty hippies over-running the place, yeah, i can almost see that :lol:

They make good music, bottom line. It doesn't matter what they stand for.

So say a band sings about white supremacy or praises Sept 11th or encourages genocide, its A-okay as long as its a neat little toe-tapper?

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They make good music, bottom line. It doesn't matter what they stand for.

So say a band sings about white supremacy or praises Sept 11th or encourages genocide, its A-okay as long as its a neat little toe-tapper?

That's not even my point. You always make terrible analogies, but sure anyone can listen to what they want.

Its not? Well what is your point? I don't know how else to look at a statement like "if they make good music it doesn't matter what they stand for". And yes, i'm well aware that people can listen to whatever they want i'm trying to point out the straightforward human thing of well, if you don't agree with what a persons saying, that tends, in a very general sense, to turn you away from him, unless your in some kinda debate situation with em but you ain't when you buy their albums now are you?

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They make good music, bottom line. It doesn't matter what they stand for.

So say a band sings about white supremacy or praises Sept 11th or encourages genocide, its A-okay as long as its a neat little toe-tapper?

That's not even my point. You always make terrible analogies, but sure anyone can listen to what they want.

Its not? Well what is your point? I don't know how else to look at a statement like "if they make good music it doesn't matter what they stand for". And yes, i'm well aware that people can listen to whatever they want i'm trying to point out the straightforward human thing of well, if you don't agree with what a persons saying, that tends, in a very general sense, to turn you away from him, unless your in some kinda debate situation with em but you ain't when you buy their albums now are you?

I like the music, I listen to it.

Cool :) Maybe i over-analyse things, i dunno..

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