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17 hours ago, LA_0013 said:

No one really wants to hear an ‘Industrial’ record now - whatever that actually means.
 

The irony is - it would probably sound more dated than an actual hard rock album. All that industrial stuff reminds me of the early 2000s.  
 

Doing something different these days is more akin to going back to basics in my view 

Agree.

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Just a friendly reminder:  

With any other band, it might mean "Hey we know the fans are talking about new music. And where's there's smoke, there's fire" meaning that new music is on the way.  With GNR, it probably just me

Well, well, well...   

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Who decides what's sounding dated? And most importantly, who cares? I couldn't care less what anybody thinks about the music I love. And since when is this a criterion for good music? Is Paul Kossoffs guitar sound dated? Fuck off! Bob Hites vocals? Fuck off again! The drums on UYI? Lol.

Timeless is only that what I feel is timeless, only that, what I think that I'm as passionate about it now, as in 30 years. I'm the only one who's able to give an honest answer to these questions. Everybody can only answer these questions to himself.

 

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On 10/16/2020 at 8:34 AM, LA_0013 said:

Doing something different these days is more akin to going back to basics in my view 

Not really. Almost every single rock band these days is doing old school sounding shit. We have an endless amount of Led Zeppelin wannabe bands. If GNR went back to basics, I don't think it would sound all that dated and I'm sure it would be great, but it sure as hell wouldn't be anything unique or different.

In fact an industrial record would be much more unique right now, when almost every rock band is trying to sound old school. What ever approach they'll take I'm probably gonna enjoy it so I'm fine with anything. Just saying that an old school approach isn't anything different right now.

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6 hours ago, Lies They Tell said:

Not really. Almost every single rock band these days is doing old school sounding shit. We have an endless amount of Led Zeppelin wannabe bands. If GNR went back to basics, I don't think it would sound all that dated and I'm sure it would be great, but it sure as hell wouldn't be anything unique or different.

In fact an industrial record would be much more unique right now, when almost every rock band is trying to sound old school. What ever approach they'll take I'm probably gonna enjoy it so I'm fine with anything. Just saying that an old school approach isn't anything different right now.

It truly depends on their ability. If the result is an just anoher rock album, then yes, it probably won't be anything special. But lets say they manage to create magic like they did back in the day. Maybe they surpass their selves and accomplish to create the much awaited follow up to the UYI records. If we take a look at the Axl/Slash songs, like NR, Estranged, Locomotive and Coma... or even songs like Civil War and DDM with Duff as contributor, they seem more than capable of doing that. IF THAT does happen than that would be pretty unique...

One can always dream!

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On 10/17/2020 at 2:11 PM, DTJ80 said:

 

I’ve not been impressed with SMKC apart from the odd stand out track (which tends to be really good TBF). I find it to be really generic stuff mainly - and I’m convinced Axl and Duff would raise it a few levels.

Likewise - Slash can elevate other songs ala NR and Estranged with the RIGHT solos that the song demands....it’s no coincidence that SMKC seems to miss ‘epics’ and CD didn’t really have straightforward hard rock.....they complimented each other back then. I think/hope they can still do it.

I think he purposely doesn't do any 'epics' in SMKC because he's not interested in them there.

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36 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

I think he purposely doesn't do any 'epics' in SMKC because he's not interested in them there.

Yep agree. With SMKC its just a straight ahead hard rock album. Nothing more nothing less. The epics stuff purely for guns. Then again the epic stuff we did have with Guns was right for those times. I hadnt heard the village leaks, so im keen to know if the instrumentals are short in length  or long. May give us an idea for the next GNR release..

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On 10/17/2020 at 11:12 PM, Lies They Tell said:

Not really. Almost every single rock band these days is doing old school sounding shit. We have an endless amount of Led Zeppelin wannabe bands. If GNR went back to basics, I don't think it would sound all that dated and I'm sure it would be great, but it sure as hell wouldn't be anything unique or different.

In fact an industrial record would be much more unique right now, when almost every rock band is trying to sound old school. What ever approach they'll take I'm probably gonna enjoy it so I'm fine with anything. Just saying that an old school approach isn't anything different right now.

The only fad in music i dont want to hear is the whole drop d tuning trend that occured in the late 90s early 00s.

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24 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said:

Susan commented on Melissa's latest IG post "Beautious Maximus" ... I might be looking too much into it but considering she made a comment about the new album could that be a low key reference to the "Circus Maximus" leak ???

What leak  is this?

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5 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

I think he purposely doesn't do any 'epics' in SMKC because he's not interested in them there.

Maybe - although if he isn’t interested in them there then what would be the channel for them? Pre-reunion SMKC appeared to be his only channel as there was no ‘epics’ elsewhere.

I suppose my point is that Axl specialises in the epics which Slash can seriously lock into and elevate with the right solo etc and Slash specialises in the straightforward rock which Axl can elevate with the right vocal and lyric.

Its why they were dynamite and we all hope they can still be.....when we get something new......eventually......!

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On 10/16/2020 at 6:34 AM, LA_0013 said:

No one really wants to hear an ‘Industrial’ record now - whatever that actually means.
 

The irony is - it would probably sound more dated than an actual hard rock album. All that industrial stuff reminds me of the early 2000s.  
 

Doing something different these days is more akin to going back to basics in my view 

Ironically it's taken so long for Axl to release CD 2 that the early 2000s has come back into fashion. 

Truly playing the long game.

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On 10/19/2020 at 8:39 PM, Sydney Fan said:

I hadnt heard the village leaks, so im keen to know if the instrumentals are short in length  or long. May give us an idea for the next GNR release..

 

All the best ones were about 4.5-6 mins long (Oklahoma, Soul Monster, Zodiac, Mustache, Dummy, etc)

The longest instrumental was Dummy (rumoured to be Cuban Skies) and it's 6:35

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10 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

All the best ones were about 4.5-6 mins long (Oklahoma, Soul Monster, Zodiac, Mustache, Dummy, etc)

The longest instrumental was Dummy (rumoured to be Cuban Skies) and it's 6:35

Dummy sounds a bit conceptualized like Better, slow tempo to a hard hitting in your face guitar riff. I wonder if Slash touched that song on his sessions with Axl. 

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https://www.facebook.com/gunsnroses/videos/1323034311373996/

(Peru 2016) 
To be honest, I’m getting sick of these video snippets. I know it’s weird, but… isn’t this kind of flashy footage published in order to create immediate excitement, excitement about something particular, like an upcoming concert or a DVD? I mean, we’ve seen dozens of videos like this, they show us they clearly have tons of similar footage, but what is it for in the end? Don’t they think that teasing fans can only go so far? What’s the point when, at the end of the day, you aren’t able to release even one goddamn new single, a rehearsal hello, or a DVD from a tour that started 4 years ago etc., unlike basically all of your music colleagues?
Fuck this shit anymore, seriously. It’s only adding to the frustration. 

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