jamillos 1,898 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Euchre said: Why does everyone think TB is the problem ? I would have assumed they can't make any moves without the say so of Axl, and likewise if he wants them to do something its not like they are going to say no ? Nevertheless, if nothing else, I’m sure as hell Axl didn’t tell Merchnando to act like an arrogant, smug & wronged prick when talking to the fans (and basically giving them no information altogether or promising stuff that never happens) once a year over fucking Reddit… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaskingApathy 2,340 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 4 hours ago, DownUnderScott said: This is a great idea and the most sensible thing for the GnR brand moving forward. The Lebeis family have actually been very, very good at organising world tours and the logistics of such a huge undertaking, so credit where it’s due. But they have no idea about PR and marketing & promotion so this is an area that has hurt GnR due to it being largely ignored. Having said that, they still sell millions of tickets so obviously it’s not hurting them too much financially! I think it's Live Nation that has done most of the work there, and it's not because of TB that they've sold so many tickets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StayofExecution2020 988 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) You're right @Fernando. We've been patiently fn waiting for new music and for you to do your fucking job Edited January 6 by StayofExecution2020 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweersa 562 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 They are probably referring to the US election instead of new music, or anything else they should actually be focused on. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 1,136 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Why does he keep posting meaningless shit? Wtf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Italian girl 2,753 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 50 minutes ago, StayofExecution2020 said: You're right @Fernando. We've been patiently fn waiting for new music and for you to do your fucking job He can't. He's on holiday in these days Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darklotus69 6 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 think this referes to playing in front of crowds but if the tour is postponed again come on give us anything Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sydney Fan 1,963 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 14 hours ago, vloors said: Got to remember it was Axls decision to hire all those unqualified family members in the first place. His to blame for all of this. Yep. The reason why they were hired was because axl didnt trust other managers because he felt their agenda was to initiate a reunion. So now that a reunion has happened whats axls excuse now for not using a proper management team for the band i wonder?. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sydney Fan 1,963 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 8 hours ago, MaskingApathy said: I think it's Live Nation that has done most of the work there, and it's not because of TB that they've sold so many tickets. Yes it has been Live Nation for managing the tour. They even had one of theif staff on the tour with TB, since day1 managing things. I wouldnt blame them considering how much $$$$ they would have invested to make sure TB dont fuck it up. That tour manager was Angie Warner. Does everyone remember when Angie won an awsrd and how Fernando posted a shitstorm that she didnt deserve it because the tour was a "team effort".?. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaskingApathy 2,340 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 24 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: Does everyone remember when Angie won an awsrd and how Fernando posted a shitstorm that she didnt deserve it because the tour was a "team effort".?. Yes, was a very immature and unprofessional response. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DTJ80 1,070 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 4 hours ago, StayofExecution2020 said: You're right @Fernando. We've been patiently fn waiting for new music and for you to do your fucking job Properly taking the piss with that tweet 😤 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamillos 1,898 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 11 hours ago, Sweersa said: They are probably referring to the US election instead of new music, or anything else they should actually be focused on. Nah, it's about vaccines and all the stuff imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Holographic Universe 967 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 28 minutes ago, jamillos said: Nah, it's about vaccines and all the stuff imo. It’s definitely about the status of the tour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Holographic Universe 967 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 8 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: Yes it has been Live Nation for managing the tour. They even had one of theif staff on the tour with TB, since day1 managing things. I wouldnt blame them considering how much $$$$ they would have invested to make sure TB dont fuck it up. That tour manager was Angie Warner. Does everyone remember when Angie won an awsrd and how Fernando posted a shitstorm that she didnt deserve it because the tour was a "team effort".?. I recall that episode. I have zero issues with TB, but he went super petty to be recognized in that moment. Like, come on dude, you and Del’s specialty is dealing with a talent as large as Axl, not managing a stadium tour. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamillos 1,898 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 7 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said: It’s definitely about the status of the tour. Yep, waiting till they can play again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Holographic Universe 967 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 24 minutes ago, jamillos said: Yep, waiting till they can play again. I don’t see how you can view it any other way. But, wow two years without concerts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean 2,291 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 If everything is postponed again, we can forget about having a new album before Axl turns 60. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StayofExecution2020 988 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 It might be a good thing if there won't be any shows in 2021. Will show if this band has the balls to do anything while there are still no shows. But i think the OZ shows in November might happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamillos 1,898 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 With all that's happening in the world... you guys can't selfishly expect anything! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
©GnrPersia 768 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 4 hours ago, jamillos said: With all that's happening in the world... you guys can't selfishly expect anything! True, as fans of a band that's putting out albums every 2 or 3 years, we're very impatient and selfish. And yes! COVID is the reason we don't hear anything new from the band. Otherwise in pre-covid time they used to spoil us with new material raining from all over the place. On a serious note, Axl is musically impotent and Team Brazil is worst than COVID. Team Brazil is a Parasite and nightmare for any professional musician who truely cares about his artistic career. Edited January 7 by ©GnrPersia 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamillos 1,898 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 22 minutes ago, ©GnrPersia said: True, as fans of a band that's putting out albums every 2 or 3 years, we're very impatient and selfish. And yes! COVID is the reason we don't hear anything new from the band. Otherwise in pre-covid time they used to spoil us with new material raining from all over the place. On a serious note, Axl is musically impotent and Team Brazil is worst than COVID. Team Brazil is a Parasite and nightmare for any professional musician who truely cares about his artistic career. It's not Covid, now it's the Capitol chapter! Shit is happening all the time, it's just us selfish GN'R fans who don't realize it! They gave us Saskatoon, HoB, the Village sessions... all carefully edited and mastered by TB. I mean, what more could we possibly ask for!? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Legendador 255 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 43 minutes ago, jamillos said: It's not Covid, now it's the Capitol chapter! Shit is happening all the time, it's just us selfish GN'R fans who don't realize it! They gave us Saskatoon, HoB, the Village sessions... all carefully edited and mastered by TB. I mean, what more could we possibly ask for!? I'm no defending TB, but I don't think many of you know the real job description of a band manager! They are not the boss, the band is the boss and in this case AXL is the boss. TEAM BRAZIL can suggest, but it is AXL who decides about SELECTS, BOOKS and has the final saying in what, how and the worst WHEN! There's no new music / record because AXL doesn't want to! SO LET'S GO Band managers are hired by music groups to handle the business aspects of the music industry. They guide the artists' careers, provide advice and act as a liaison between the band and others in the music business. A band manager works closely with a music group to help make major decisions regarding the creative and business direction of the band. The manager is the person the musicians put in charge of the business side of the industry so that they can focus on making music. Some band managers work for management companies, while others work independently. A manager often works on commission. Some take on more than one client; others work full-time with one band. The duties required of a band manager vary greatly depending on the individual needs of the artist. Some managers focus exclusively on a few duties, such as advising the band on creative, business and personal decisions and assisting them in finding engagements. Others take on multiple roles, such as booking agent, promoter and travel arranger. Managers often negotiate recording contracts and help the band members understand their responsibilities. So stop bitching about TM, which peoplo only do solely by the fact that they are Brazilians at this point. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamillos 1,898 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 10 minutes ago, Legendador said: I'm no defending TB, but I don't think many of you know the real job description of a band manager! They are not the boss, the band is the boss and in this case AXL is the boss. TEAM BRAZIL can suggest, but it is AXL who decides about SELECTS, BOOKS and has the final saying in what, how and the worst WHEN! There's no new music / record because AXL doesn't want to! SO LET'S GO Band managers are hired by music groups to handle the business aspects of the music industry. They guide the artists' careers, provide advice and act as a liaison between the band and others in the music business. A band manager works closely with a music group to help make major decisions regarding the creative and business direction of the band. The manager is the person the musicians put in charge of the business side of the industry so that they can focus on making music. Some band managers work for management companies, while others work independently. A manager often works on commission. Some take on more than one client; others work full-time with one band. The duties required of a band manager vary greatly depending on the individual needs of the artist. Some managers focus exclusively on a few duties, such as advising the band on creative, business and personal decisions and assisting them in finding engagements. Others take on multiple roles, such as booking agent, promoter and travel arranger. Managers often negotiate recording contracts and help the band members understand their responsibilities. So stop bitching about TM, which peoplo only do solely by the fact that they are Brazilians at this point. I am aware of all this, and my grievances didn’t mean that I think it’s TB who decide about releasing stuff. (And btw, I couldn’t care less whether they’re from Brazil, Norway, or Egypt as far as I’m concerned.) Neither was my post predominantly about them – it was about the band constantly not giving us anything, plus their management making lame excuses in addition. Same old same old tiring crap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Legendador 255 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 6 minutes ago, jamillos said: I am aware of all this, and my grievances didn’t mean that I think it’s TB who decide about releasing stuff. (And btw, I couldn’t care less whether they’re from Brazil, Norway, or Egypt as far as I’m concerned.) Neither was my post predominantly about them – it was about the band constantly not giving us anything, plus their management making lame excuses in addition. Same old same old tiring crap. Sorry if it looked like I was talking about you! I was saying in general! But I also think they don't manage the band in the right way, I don't now if you saw this, but today they posted on Facebook another cryptic message "Pantiently Fn waiting...", which was their job to say "don't do it", they always do that, create expectations on the fans and nothing never happens. Just don't say anything to fuck with our minds! But I also said that "brazilian stuff", because they never gave a hard time on Allan, Goldstein, Merck, Doc and so on... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gackt 1,933 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Guys, read the room, the band obviously can't release new music or do anything when the capital building has been infiltrated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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