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Just a friendly reminder:  

With any other band, it might mean "Hey we know the fans are talking about new music. And where's there's smoke, there's fire" meaning that new music is on the way.  With GNR, it probably just me

Well, well, well...   

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22 minutes ago, Legendador said:

Sorry if it looked like I was talking about you! I was saying in general!

But I also think they don't manage the band in the right way, I don't now if you saw this, but today they posted on Facebook another cryptic message "Pantiently Fn waiting...", which was their job to say "don't do it", they always do that, create expectations on the fans and nothing never happens.

Just don't say anything to fuck with our minds!

But I also said that "brazilian stuff", because they never gave a hard time on Allan, Goldstein, Merck, Doc and so on...

No problem man, and I agree. I think their post was merely about waiting for the vaccines so that the band can start gigging again. Could have been about president too, but the image of Slash in front of the crowd suggests the former. 
Yeah, as for those former managers… different era, no social media (on their part), it’s impossible to compare. As much as Merck may have damaged Axl’s endeavours, one thing I would believe – that if he was their manager now, maybe he would hire people competent enough to be actually able to communicate with the fans on a normal, nice level instead of acting like arrogant asses on most occasions.
Anyway…

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On 1/5/2021 at 1:35 PM, ShadowOfTheWave said:

Uh oh, Frank acknowledged the joke this band has become. We know what happens to those who do this. He will be replaced on the next tour by a talentless emo chick who forum users will simp for and pretend is an upgrade.

Adler/Sorum return speculation starts now. 

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3 hours ago, Legendador said:

Band managers are hired by music groups to handle the business aspects of the music industry. They guide the artists' careers, provide advice and act as a liaison between the band and others in the music business. 

A band manager works closely with a music group to help make major decisions regarding the creative and business direction of the band. The manager is the person the musicians put in charge of the business side of the industry so that they can focus on making music. Some band managers work for management companies, while others work independently. A manager often works on commission. Some take on more than one client; others work full-time with one band.

The duties required of a band manager vary greatly depending on the individual needs of the artist. Some managers focus exclusively on a few duties, such as advising the band on creative, business and personal decisions and assisting them in finding engagements. Others take on multiple roles, such as booking agent, promoter and travel arranger. Managers often negotiate recording contracts and help the band members understand their responsibilities.

Dude be careful with your statements specially when discussing professional careers. managerial positions ( IN ANY FIELD! ) is not that formulated and as per book as written above.

Since you have provided a checklist, let me provide you with another one regarding MUST-HAVE qualities of a manager and give me one example that either Fernando or Beta are matching with any of the below points: 

1. They help develop artists' careers

2. They have a deep and detailed knowledge of an artist's portfolio 

3. They are well aware of the latest trends, technological advancements and marketing 

4. They must have broad network of connections within the industry

5. Work ethic and drive

6. Creative problem solving and fast decision making

7. They handle pressure well

8. They communicate honestly

9. They are open to new ideas

10. They are a role model

11. They are creative minded

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Give me only ONE example and I'll shut up.

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3 hours ago, AxlSlashthebest said:

I think he like all the comment without read it unfortunately !!

Frank could have went back and unliked, or even deleted the comment; no doubt in my mind that Fernando or someone else in TB was tipped off about this on his personal (and public) Facebook feed, and would have put pressure to remove it to keep everything harmonious.  Something's brewing, and it gives me some vibes of past band members that have taken off shortly after.

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2 hours ago, ©GnrPersia said:

Dude be careful with your statements specially when discussing professional careers. managerial positions ( IN ANY FIELD! ) is not that formulated and as per book as written above.

Since you have provided a checklist, let me provide you with another one regarding MUST-HAVE qualities of a manager and give me one example that either Fernando or Beta are matching with any of the below points: 

1. They help develop artists' careers

2. They have a deep and detailed knowledge of an artist's portfolio 

3. They are well aware of the latest trends, technological advancements and marketing 

4. They must have broad network of connections within the industry

5. Work ethic and drive

6. Creative problem solving and fast decision making

7. They handle pressure well

8. They communicate honestly

9. They are open to new ideas

10. They are a role model

11. They are creative minded

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Give me only ONE example and I'll shut up.

Come on, man! Becareful with what? You ask me not to be be "as per book", but then you give me a list of what you "think" is the perfect job description for a banda manager? Puft! I'm bringing facts to the table, right or wrong, but fact, you're giving me wishes!

Not that black, not that white, my statement was a overall and very surfaced opinion!

The only thing you forgot to mention in your list is that they are not owners of the brand or the boss of Axl.

You could be all of that included in your list (which maybe they are not, if so they would be perfect humans) and even so they would need to have a GO from Axl.

They are not to blame, i'm sorry.

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5 hours ago, Legendador said:

Come on, man! Becareful with what? You ask me not to be be "as per book", but then you give me a list of what you "think" is the perfect job description for a banda manager? Puft! I'm bringing facts to the table, right or wrong, but fact, you're giving me wishes!

Not that black, not that white, my statement was a overall and very surfaced opinion!

The only thing you forgot to mention in your list is that they are not owners of the brand or the boss of Axl.

You could be all of that included in your list (which maybe they are not, if so they would be perfect humans) and even so they would need to have a GO from Axl.

They are not to blame, i'm sorry.

The other lack of respect to TB among the the fanbase is also around the YT takedowns. 

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7 hours ago, ©GnrPersia said:

Dude be careful with your statements specially when discussing professional careers. managerial positions ( IN ANY FIELD! ) is not that formulated and as per book as written above.

Since you have provided a checklist, let me provide you with another one regarding MUST-HAVE qualities of a manager and give me one example that either Fernando or Beta are matching with any of the below points: 

1. They help develop artists' careers

2. They have a deep and detailed knowledge of an artist's portfolio 

3. They are well aware of the latest trends, technological advancements and marketing 

4. They must have broad network of connections within the industry

5. Work ethic and drive

6. Creative problem solving and fast decision making

7. They handle pressure well

8. They communicate honestly

9. They are open to new ideas

10. They are a role model

11. They are creative minded

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Give me only ONE example and I'll shut up.

I don’t think it’s classified information that TB as an enterprise will never represent another band or artist. I have doubts that TB commands any type of respect within the industry. If Axl has no heirs or a wife, then I assume TB being his family will inherit his estate and some portion of GNR.

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RICHARD FORTUS Says BUCKETHEAD And BUMBLEFOOT 'Had A Difficult Time Assimilating' Into 'Band World' Within GUNS N' ROSES

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/richard-fortus-says-buckethead-and-bumblefoot-had-a-difficult-time-assimilating-into-band-world-within-guns-n-roses/

During an appearance on a video podcast hosted by Todd Kerns, the bassist of SLASH FEATURING MYLES KENNEDY AND THE CONSPIRATORS, GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Richard Fortus talked about what it was like to work with Buckethead for a couple of years in the early 2000s. The eccentric musician (real name Brian Carroll), who wears a fried-chicken bucket on his noggin and talks only through a hand puppet, quit GUNS N' ROSES in 2004 after becoming fed up with GUNS' inability to complete an album or tour, his manager told MTV at the time.

"Bucket is very musical, but I think a lot of guys like that — phenomenal, prodigious talent — they're not necessarily… I think Bucket's music is great," Fortus said (see video below). "What he does on his own, he's out there, but he did understand how to make three guitars work, and that's a very difficult thing. And he would lay out and just stand there and be weird and Bucket-y, and then he would come in on the choruses, and it would be huge. He got that; he understood that. [He's] a phenomenal talent. But the thing is, socially, guys like Bucket spend so much time in their bedroom practicing that they don't really — it's just different for them socially.

"Being in a band, you've gotta relate to people," Fortus continued. "And I think Bucket struggled with that. I always got along with him, but I think he really had a tough time with that. Same with [another former GUNS guitarist] Ron Thal [Bumblefoot] — he had a difficult time sort of assimilating into that 'band world,' 'cause he hadn't done it before."

Richard, who joined GUNS in late 2001 or early 2002, went on to talk about how playing with a group of people requires an ability to understand and connect to others, thereby developing social skills.

"When you think about that time that you spent rehearsing with other people, playing on stage with other people, traveling in a van, sleeping on floors with people, that teaches you how to be married to four other people," he said. "It really is a skill that you learn; it's a skillset that you have to develop, or it doesn't work. You've gotta be a team player, but you've also gotta be driven and motivated."

Last September, Fortus told "The Radical With Nick Terzo" podcast that it has been at times difficult to adjust to the different musicians that came through GUNS N' ROSES since he joined the band nearly two decades ago.

"I love Robin [Finck, guitar]. I loved his playing. I loved working with him. And, obviously, Tommy [Stinson, bass] is like my brother. We were all very tight. And then there was Bucket, who was just sort of out on his own. But it was very musical, and it was exciting to be a part of. He's a phenomenal talent. Man, he's pretty out there. And he definitely can be difficult to work with. I enjoyed working with him, 'cause he's very musical.

"It was a difficult dynamic to make three guitars work," Fortus said. "[Buckethead] did an excellent job, because he understood the dynamics of it and how the puzzle pieces have to fit together, and Bucket really understood that. Everything sort of has to have its place.

"When [Buckethead] left and Ron Thal [a.k.a. Bumblefoot] came in, it was a different dynamic, because I think Ron had been used to sort of doing his own thing, with his own band, so he didn't really get how that worked, or how to make it work. So it was difficult at that time."

Fortus got his big break when his band PALE DIVINE opened for THE PSYCHEDELIC FURS. This led to Fortus forming the band LOVE SPIT LOVE with PSYCHEDELIC FURS frontman Richard Butler and drummer Frank Ferrer. In 2000, Fortus and Ferrer became touring members of the reformed PSYCHEDELIC FURS before Fortus hooked up with GUNS N' ROSES. Ferrer himself joined GN'R in 2006.

GUNS N' ROSES is now reportedly working on a new studio album — the first under the GUNS banner since 2008's "Chinese Democracy" and the first to feature guitarist Slash, singer Axl Rose and bassist Duff McKagan since 1993.

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10 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

The other lack of respect to TB among the the fanbase is also around the YT takedowns. 

If Axl didn't agree or had the final saying in this it would not have happened!

Stop blaming TB, in GNR world they are only "yes" men and can only "advice" Axl, in what to do, but we know how that goes! AXL IS THE BOSS!

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3 hours ago, Legendador said:

If Axl didn't agree or had the final saying in this it would not have happened!

Stop blaming TB, in GNR world they are only "yes" men and can only "advice" Axl, in what to do, but we know how that goes! AXL IS THE BOSS!

  

On 1/6/2021 at 1:16 PM, jamillos said:

Nevertheless, if nothing else, I’m sure as hell Axl didn’t tell Merchnando to act like an arrogant, smug & wronged prick when talking to the fans... 

;) 

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13 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said:

How bizarre to read that line. A new album with Axl being 60. 

A very sad state of affairs considering the wealth of material he is sat on and has been for decades.

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3 hours ago, Legendador said:

If Axl didn't agree or had the final saying in this it would not have happened!

Stop blaming TB, in GNR world they are only "yes" men and can only "advice" Axl, in what to do, but we know how that goes! AXL IS THE BOSS!

I believe it's more their record label than them.

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9 hours ago, Legendador said:

If Axl didn't agree or had the final saying in this it would not have happened!

Stop blaming TB, in GNR world they are only "yes" men and can only "advice" Axl, in what to do, but we know how that goes! AXL IS THE BOSS!

Whos to say axl was told about the takedowns?. Do you think axl cares about videos being put online from their shows?.

I dont think axl would care about any of their shows online, considering we only have 2 official live DVDs tokyo 92 and appetite for democracy. That shows axls care factor about having live shows given to the fanbase.

 

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On 1/7/2021 at 4:22 PM, HollyWoodRose84 said:

Adler/Sorum return speculation starts now. 

Seems that on other forums that the Adler chat is already starting....and Izzy. Not convinced myself but certainly seems to be a growing opinion there is something in this. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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9 hours ago, DTJ80 said:

Seems that on other forums that the Adler chat is already starting....and Izzy. Not convinced myself but certainly seems to be a growing opinion there is something in this. 🤷🏼‍♂️

I think a similar comment was made earlier last year by a well-respected person on this forum, and it all seems to correlate with Guns using the AFD logo for their Australian/New Zealand tour late this year as well.

I think the possibility is there that Steven and Izzy may be involved to some extent, but i do not think they have replaced Frank and Richard as full-time members. Richard still talks as if he's a member, and Frank is reliable and still shares GN'R stuff. If anything, it may be that Steven and Izzy have agreed to participate in live concerts and maybe contribute to some studio stuff. That's wishful thinking though.

My opinion - i would prefer new music than another run on the reunion train, but if we can have both, that would be fantastic.

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7 hours ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

My opinion - i would prefer new music than another run on the reunion train, but if we can have both, that would be fantastic.

Sadly there's a huge possibility of having none of both. 

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