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55 minutes ago, StayofExecution2020 said:

Well, the stay at home people might prefer a shorter set. When I'm seeing guns live, I wanna see a full blown 3.5hr show. 

Of course, to each their own. But I can do without the noodling, 20-minute KOHD, "improvs", etc. My back is killing me as it is! :D

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Just a friendly reminder:  

With any other band, it might mean "Hey we know the fans are talking about new music. And where's there's smoke, there's fire" meaning that new music is on the way.  With GNR, it probably just me

Well, well, well...   

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3 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

They just started yesterday.

I thought they were recording prior to covid

3 hours ago, StayofExecution2020 said:

Well, the stay at home people might prefer a shorter set. When I'm seeing guns live, I wanna see a full blown 3.5hr show. 

Rather quality over quantity for sure

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6 hours ago, StayofExecution2020 said:

Well, the stay at home people might prefer a shorter set. When I'm seeing guns live, I wanna see a full blown 3.5hr show. 

I like the long shows too, personally. I don't have any complaints about that side of the live experience. 

 

 

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On 2/19/2021 at 3:25 PM, allwaystired said:

There were still some great shows up to 2019 I think. After that it just seems there was a general lack of interest. 

The only reason I can think of for showing these poor shows is that they might be saving the good ones for some of official release? Otherwise, I'm totally at a loss as to why you'd want to highlight weak performances over strong ones! 

 

Nah, it's very unlikely they've chosen to purposefully choose sub par content just to hold on to later release the good stuff. I don't think they know what they have, whoever is picking the content isn't concerned with how the bands performance is or the mix. 

It's a small bit of effort, but going through a set and finding one minute of Axl sounding amazing is not an impossible task for almost any show. But you would A) need to care B) know what you're doing.

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6 hours ago, StayofExecution2020 said:

Well, the stay at home people might prefer a shorter set. When I'm seeing guns live, I wanna see a full blown 3.5hr show. 

I don't mind a long set, I just don't want a set that feels long. Gnrs set feels long and there's a definite lull in the middle. 

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6 hours ago, jamillos said:

Of course, to each their own. But I can do without the noodling, 20-minute KOHD, "improvs", etc. My back is killing me as it is! :D

I agree. Once a show, any show, gets above 2 hours I'm losing interest even it was Zeppelin who have a much bigger catalogue than GNR. 

GNR with a set padded out with covers and solos would kill me.

My favourite era of GNR was actually when they were opening and they used to come out and put on this ridiculously intense set. When they started to headline it was good at first but then slowly got more bloated and boring IMO.

One of the best shows I've ever seen was the Sex Pistols on their reunion tour when they came out and just hammered it relentlessly for 60 mins and left. I don't even remember there being an encore. It was the biggest pit of any show I've ever seen by a long way and certainly one of my most memorably gigs - it was almost like what just happened.

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8 hours ago, StayofExecution2020 said:

Well, the stay at home people might prefer a shorter set. When I'm seeing guns live, I wanna see a full blown 3.5hr show. 

How can they be "stay at home" people if they're out at a show.

1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

I don't mind a long set, I just don't want a set that feels long. Gnrs set feels long and there's a definite lull in the middle. 

Totally this, I feel the same way about movies also.

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2 hours ago, lame ass security said:

How can they be "stay at home" people if they're out at a show.

Totally this, I feel the same way about movies also.

Me too about the movies, the goal is supposed to be to entertain the audience. I still think gnr shows suffer from people leaving before the ends and that starts around the 2hr mark, most people are soent by then. Cut the unnecessary filler shite and get to the entertainment. That doesn't mean just play the hits or don't take solo spots... it does mean don't take the piss, and gnr are king ribbers😄

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4 hours ago, Euchre said:

I agree. Once a show, any show, gets above 2 hours I'm losing interest even it was Zeppelin who have a much bigger catalogue than GNR. 

GNR with a set padded out with covers and solos would kill me.

My favourite era of GNR was actually when they were opening and they used to come out and put on this ridiculously intense set. When they started to headline it was good at first but then slowly got more bloated and boring IMO.

One of the best shows I've ever seen was the Sex Pistols on their reunion tour when they came out and just hammered it relentlessly for 60 mins and left. I don't even remember there being an encore. It was the biggest pit of any show I've ever seen by a long way and certainly one of my most memorably gigs - it was almost like what just happened.

I'm amazed they played for 60 minutes, as they barely have that amount of material! 

I opted out of those shows, even though they're one of my favourite bands, as I don't like living in the past, trying to recreate it, nostalgia, etc. Bands have their moment and if I missed it first time, then, bad luck me. Would have loved to have been there in the 70s, but I wasn't. I don't want to miss the bands of now. No point looking backwards. All that stuff. You know the drill. Yet......here I am on a GNR forum in 2021! Hahaha! 

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5 hours ago, Euchre said:

I agree. Once a show, any show, gets above 2 hours I'm losing interest even it was Zeppelin who have a much bigger catalogue than GNR. 

GNR with a set padded out with covers and solos would kill me.

My favourite era of GNR was actually when they were opening and they used to come out and put on this ridiculously intense set. When they started to headline it was good at first but then slowly got more bloated and boring IMO.

One of the best shows I've ever seen was the Sex Pistols on their reunion tour when they came out and just hammered it relentlessly for 60 mins and left. I don't even remember there being an encore. It was the biggest pit of any show I've ever seen by a long way and certainly one of my most memorably gigs - it was almost like what just happened.

There is something to be said for that opening act mentality. Opening acts are trying to win the audience, give it everything and leave you wanting more. 

When I saw gnr in 2006, they played for just over 2hrs and that was easily the best I've seen them. In and out, bo messing around!

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On 2/21/2021 at 9:44 AM, Gordon Comstock said:

Well, if their next release is gonna be a UYI box set, I'd much rather see footage from the UYI tour than from NITL...

So it’s confirmed that they are releasing a UYI box set?

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2 hours ago, DownUnderScott said:

So it’s confirmed that they are releasing a UYI box set?

Rule No. 1: Nothing is ever "confirmed" in the world of GN'R unless one of the main musicians themselves says something concrete, ideally with a date. 

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19 hours ago, allwaystired said:

I'm amazed they played for 60 minutes, as they barely have that amount of material! 

I opted out of those shows, even though they're one of my favourite bands, as I don't like living in the past, trying to recreate it, nostalgia, etc. Bands have their moment and if I missed it first time, then, bad luck me. Would have loved to have been there in the 70s, but I wasn't. I don't want to miss the bands of now. No point looking backwards. All that stuff. You know the drill. Yet......here I am on a GNR forum in 2021! Hahaha! 

And you know what really weirds me out.... when I saw the Pistols in ‘96 I think it was it seemed like this really old band coming back - 19 years after their debut/prime. 

The GNR equivalent would have been them doing an AFD reunion in 2006 !!

Like you say it’s now 34 years past debut/prime for GNR and I’m still holding out hope that one day the reunion might happen - but because I’ve seen GNR unfold since the start (I wasn’t born when the Pistols exploded), it doesn’t feel like an ancient band to me...but when I stop and think like this I realise yeah actually it is ancient and it’s even more ancient than all those bands I thought were old in the 80s & 90s. It’s just me who is also old now !!

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16 minutes ago, Euchre said:

And you know what really weirds me out.... when I saw the Pistols in ‘96 I think it was it seemed like this really old band coming back - 19 years after their debut/prime. 

The GNR equivalent would have been them doing an AFD reunion in 2006 !!

Like you say it’s now 34 years past debut/prime for GNR and I’m still holding out hope that one day the reunion might happen - but because I’ve seen GNR unfold since the start (I wasn’t born when the Pistols exploded), it doesn’t feel like an ancient band to me...but when I stop and think like this I realise yeah actually it is ancient and it’s even more ancient than all those bands I thought were old in the 80s & 90s. It’s just me who is also old now !!

Yeah, that's totally it. It's absolutely crazy. It did seem, as you say, like a really old band coming back in 1996, and I think it absolutely has to do with our perspectives! 

I suppose the only difference is that the Sex Pistols did 'come back' whereas GNR kept going, in one form or another. That probably makes it seem different to us. 

I think the Pistols did it alright though - a few gigs, then knock it on the head. I don't think they should have done those other reformations though. I think they did it twice more didn't they? 

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22 hours ago, allwaystired said:

I think the Pistols did it alright though - a few gigs, then knock it on the head. I don't think they should have done those other reformations though. I think they did it twice more didn't they? 

I think 2 more was right - 02/03 for the Jubilee and then again 07/08. They never came to Oz again so unfortunately I didn't get to see them on those runs.

There is footage of one of the Brixton shows and it was really awesome, I know you're not into nostalgia but I think you'll like it as they are still on fire :

 

 

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1 hour ago, Euchre said:

 

I think 2 more was right - 02/03 for the Jubilee and then again 07/08. They never came to Oz again so unfortunately I didn't get to see them on those runs.

There is footage of one of the Brixton shows and it was really awesome, I know you're not into nostalgia but I think you'll like it as they are still on fire :

 

 

I've seen that film actually. They're competent and everything.....but that spark just isn't there for me. I should probably have still gone though, as I sure I'd have had a good night out! 

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On 2/22/2021 at 5:27 PM, jamillos said:

Rule No. 1: Nothing is ever "confirmed" in the world of GN'R unless one of the main musicians themselves says something concrete, ideally with a date. 

Nope, I’ve been following this band for 30 years and rule no.1: Nothing is ever confirmed in the world of Gn’fn’R unless it is released, in the shops, and in your possession 😁

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On 2/25/2021 at 3:58 PM, DownUnderScott said:

Nope, I’ve been following this band for 30 years and rule no.1: Nothing is ever confirmed in the world of Gn’fn’R unless it is released, in the shops, and in your possession 😁

Or until The Chairman drops another gem!

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On 2/26/2021 at 3:58 AM, DownUnderScott said:

Nope, I’ve been following this band for 30 years and rule no.1: Nothing is ever confirmed in the world of Gn’fn’R unless it is released, in the shops, and in your possession 😁

This is the right.

Here’s another little known example and something that would have been cool for the box set. I’ve got a video interview with Adler that has never made it onto YouTube or anywhere else on the net that I know of. It’s from ‘89 I think - when he was at that baseball match the rockers did. The interviewer is a German lady so I’m guessing it was for German MTV.

Anyways he tells her that the night before the band were all out the Rainbow recording themselves sitting around talking about the old days and it was going to be released as the b-side of the upcoming Nightrain single.

Obviously this never got released, but Cleary happened and the recording must be in the vault somewhere.

A bit off topic but while we are on Nightrain and the box set, a guy named Jeff Fenster recorded a harmonica part for the song for Appetite that never made the final cut but would have been cool for the box set. Steve and Izzy also used to do a cool little intro that they played live at least once (Music Machine) and demo’d on the Pasha demos. Again something that would have been a nice addition as it isn’t that well known.

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