James Bond Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 @IncitingChaos is probably right there. He might have indeed said "they tune down" which isn't incorrect - it's just that that happens to be the tuning which they play/record in. The keys of the songs aren't actually changed from the original recordings. A half-step down/E-flat is very common in hard rock music to make the guitars a wee bit dirtier sounding. KISS, Van Halen, Guns, etc... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redout Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said: Your friend just might be confused on the fact that GNR record their music half a step down, so when they play it live it's the same half step down The whole half step down thing is the key to slash's bluesy sound, it gives it a bit of an edge and sounds more bluesy. Source: guitar player and musician for 20 some ought years who can play these songs lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbaugerud Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 They have always tuned a half step down. Makes the sound more "hard rock". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just now, tsinindy said: Yes we all acknowledge that they tuned 1/2 step when recording, And that was never changed live. Listen to any song from any bootleg pre-1993. Same key as the album cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, James Bond said: And that was never changed live. Listen to any song from any bootleg pre-1993. Same key as the album cuts. That's where there's disagreement, but let's agree to disagree and move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redout Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 1 minute ago, tsinindy said: That's where there's disagreement, but let's agree to disagree and move on There is no way slash would play a full step down, that would put him in drop D. Once dropped to D the chords change and there would be no way for him to play these songs. It would be literally impossible to play. But lets move on, i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, tsinindy said: That's where there's disagreement, but let's agree to disagree and move on Load of shit. You are 100% wrong. It's not a disagreement cause it's not an opinion, it's a fact they tuned down a half step live as well, just like in the albums on the vast majority of tunes. Edited March 28, 2016 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I'm all for moving on. No foul play intended! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Competition Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 a rumor of a 4/1 show and a cancellation at the troubadour on thursday...seems to point to a midnight show (technically 4/1) that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 29 minutes ago, James Bond said: Never. Arguably you could say they've dropped the key of the covers they do since they just do them in their typical E-flat tuning, but otherwise we've never had say a Civil War dropped to D minor or anything like that. He's incorrect - they were a half step down live as well. No changes. The only exceptions in GNR's back catalogue are Bad Obsession (open tuning on Slash's guitar) and The Garden as I previously mentioned. They've never changed a key live. Bond is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Stiff Competition said: a rumor of a 4/1 show and a cancellation at the troubadour on thursday...seems to point to a midnight show (technically 4/1) that night. Now that's some CSI work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Stiff Competition said: a rumor of a 4/1 show and a cancellation at the troubadour on thursday...seems to point to a midnight show (technically 4/1) that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Competition Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, Billsfan said: say what you will, but that shit happens out here all the time. It's actually the exact scenario of when Faith No More did their secret show there this past September. Thursday at midnight, announced the day of...not that that means anything necessarily but it goes to show how these things work. I'm not a crazy GN'R fan coming up with theories..I live out here and these kind of shows are quite common in hollywood and LA and i've been fortunate enough go to quite a few (VR at the Whisky, VR in an empty parking lot, Faith No More at the troub, etc etc). We'll see though. Slash usually has his bands play a special show at the Roxy to kick off a tour, so I was more expecting that than anything but the troub would be cool and is the venue that rumors seem to be popping up about. A warm up show IS gonna happen. Why people want to deny that, I don't know. They aren't going to play together for the first time in 20 years in front of a crowd to a huge arena-crowd...it's gonna be to 250-400 people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stiff Competition said: say what you will, but that shit happens out here all the time. It's actually the exact scenario of when Faith No More did their secret show there this past September. Thursday at midnight, announced the day of...not that that means anything necessarily but it goes to show how these things work. I'm not a crazy GN'R fan coming up with theories..I live out here and these kind of shows are quite common in hollywood and LA and i've been fortunate enough go to quite a few (VR at the Whisky, VR in an empty parking lot, Faith No More at the troub, etc etc). We'll see though. Slash usually has his bands play a special show at the Roxy to kick off a tour, so I was more expecting that than anything but the troub would be cool and is the venue that rumors seem to be popping up about. A warm up show IS gonna happen. Why people want to deny that, I don't know. They aren't going to play together for the first time in 20 years in front of a crowd to a huge arena-crowd...it's gonna be to 250-400 people. Agree to disagree. I really don't think a warmup show is going to happen. But I do hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandanaman Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) People overanalyze. But I don't think it's a bad thing. Edited March 28, 2016 by Bandanaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asia Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just now, Bandanaman said: People overanalyze. on this message board? no way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Axl_Fetish Posted March 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2016 Seeing Axl/DC trending on FB with Unicorns just made it all seem a little more surreal... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Axl_Fetish said: Seeing Axl/DC trending on FB with Unicorns just made it all seem a little more surreal... That is amazing ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandanaman Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Axl_Fetish said: Seeing Axl/DC trending on FB with Unicorns just made it all seem a little more surreal... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Asia Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, Axl_Fetish said: Seeing Axl/DC trending on FB with Unicorns just made it all seem a little more surreal... Do Axl as unicorn, something like this: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gunsfanoldie Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 God, people can't just learn to shut their mouths. Its no surprise GNR aren't telling a soul. You can't trust anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Axl_Fetish said: Seeing Axl/DC trending on FB with Unicorns just made it all seem a little more surreal... that picture is just AWESOME!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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