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http://www.billboard.com/#/charts-year-end/top-pop-catalog-artists?year=2009

Gnr #9 artist for catalog sales in US this year. They were #4 in 2008, #3 in 2007.

GH was 9th best selling catalog album in US for 2009.

http://www.billboard.com/#/charts-year-end/top-pop-catalog-albums?year=2009

Chinese Democracy was #55 on the Billboard 200 for the year. Better than I thought.

http://www.billboard.com/#/charts-year-end/the-billboard-200?year=2009&begin=41&order=position

rock3

Edited by LethalLover
Posted

Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

Chinese Democracy STARTS NOW!!!!!

Posted

Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

Well, you see, when GNR makes a better album... ...

Posted
Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

DM came out much earlier in 2008 than CD did, and sold a good majority of its albums then.

CD had only 5 weeks worth of album sales in 2008, so it was essentially an 09 album.

Posted

Im pretty sure your stats are a little off. The first two links are to pop artists and albums lists (since when is GNR pop?). So Guns n Roses was the 9th best selling pop artist and Greatest Hits was the 9th best selling pop album according to them. Chinese Democracy being that high baffles me though.

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Im pretty sure your stats are a little off. The first two links are to pop artists and albums lists (since when is GNR pop?). So Guns n Roses was the 9th best selling pop artist and Greatest Hits was the 9th best selling pop album according to them. Chinese Democracy being that high baffles me though.

The term "pop" record has been altered from it's original meaning. Simply put, "pop" is short for "popular"....as in "popular music". Guns N Roses fall into this category.

Most people think "pop" is a genre...or "sound"....sort of like Hanson or Jonas bros. But the truth of the matter is it isn't.

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Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

Because its albums SHIPPED not sold.

The best buy total counts as a part of gnr sales even though they are all sitting on a shelf.

CD sold 500k in the US but get credit for 1.5m since that is about how many best buy bought.

Posted

Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

Because its albums SHIPPED not sold.

The best buy total counts as a part of gnr sales even though they are all sitting on a shelf.

CD sold 500k in the US but get credit for 1.5m since that is about how many best buy bought.

Every copy was shipped in 2008 so, no, you are wrong

Posted (edited)

Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

Because its albums SHIPPED not sold.

The best buy total counts as a part of gnr sales even though they are all sitting on a shelf.

CD sold 500k in the US but get credit for 1.5m since that is about how many best buy bought.

Every copy was shipped in 2008 so, no, you are wrong

No I am not wrong because if that were true guns n roses would have gotten 1.5m sales for the month of sales which they did not.

They debuted at #3 on billboard.

Cd was not cerfified plantium until Feb of 2009

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/Blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=114073

"GUNS N' ROSES' new album, "Chinese Democracy", was officially certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) on February 3, 2009 for shipments in the United States in excess of one million copies. According to Nielsen SoundScan, the CD has shifted 537,000 units since it was released on November 23, 2008 as a Best Buy exclusive after a wait of more than 15 years."

Please get your facts straight.

Before Feb they shipped just over half a million.

Then in Feb of 2009 they got up to one million shipped.

That means the rest were shipped during the rest of 2009

Edited by gnr-dave
Posted

Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

The best buy total counts as a part of gnr sales even though they are all sitting on a shelf.

:rolleyes:

Posted

Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

Because its albums SHIPPED not sold.

The best buy total counts as a part of gnr sales even though they are all sitting on a shelf.

CD sold 500k in the US but get credit for 1.5m since that is about how many best buy bought.

Every copy was shipped in 2008 so, no, you are wrong

No I am not wrong because if that were true guns n roses would have gotten 1.5m sales for the month of sales which they did not.

They debuted at #3 on billboard.

Cd was not cerfified plantium until Feb of 2009

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/Blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=114073

"GUNS N' ROSES' new album, "Chinese Democracy", was officially certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) on February 3, 2009 for shipments in the United States in excess of one million copies. According to Nielsen SoundScan, the CD has shifted 537,000 units since it was released on November 23, 2008 as a Best Buy exclusive after a wait of more than 15 years."

Please get your facts straight.

Before Feb they shipped just over half a million.

Then in Feb of 2009 they got up to one million shipped.

That means the rest were shipped during the rest of 2009

Actually, it doesn't. You are wrong (as usual). First of all, there is a lag in time between platinum status being achieved and platinum certification being awarded.

Second, platinum certification is based on units shipped. Billboard chart positions are based on Soundscan.

Posted

Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

Because its albums SHIPPED not sold.

The best buy total counts as a part of gnr sales even though they are all sitting on a shelf.

CD sold 500k in the US but get credit for 1.5m since that is about how many best buy bought.

Every copy was shipped in 2008 so, no, you are wrong

No I am not wrong because if that were true guns n roses would have gotten 1.5m sales for the month of sales which they did not.

They debuted at #3 on billboard.

Cd was not cerfified plantium until Feb of 2009

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/Blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=114073

"GUNS N' ROSES' new album, "Chinese Democracy", was officially certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) on February 3, 2009 for shipments in the United States in excess of one million copies. According to Nielsen SoundScan, the CD has shifted 537,000 units since it was released on November 23, 2008 as a Best Buy exclusive after a wait of more than 15 years."

Please get your facts straight.

Before Feb they shipped just over half a million.

Then in Feb of 2009 they got up to one million shipped.

That means the rest were shipped during the rest of 2009

Dave, did you even bother to read the top of the page of this link? http://www.billboard.com/#/charts-year-end/the-billboard-200?year=2009&begin=41&order=position

You know, the part where it explicitly states "Year-End top-selling albums across all genres, ranked by sales data as compiled by Nielsen SoundScan."?

Before you start telling other people to get their facts straight, you should do the same.

Ali

Posted

Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

Because its albums SHIPPED not sold.

The best buy total counts as a part of gnr sales even though they are all sitting on a shelf.

CD sold 500k in the US but get credit for 1.5m since that is about how many best buy bought.

Every copy was shipped in 2008 so, no, you are wrong

No I am not wrong because if that were true guns n roses would have gotten 1.5m sales for the month of sales which they did not.

They debuted at #3 on billboard.

Cd was not cerfified plantium until Feb of 2009

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/Blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=114073

"GUNS N' ROSES' new album, "Chinese Democracy", was officially certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) on February 3, 2009 for shipments in the United States in excess of one million copies. According to Nielsen SoundScan, the CD has shifted 537,000 units since it was released on November 23, 2008 as a Best Buy exclusive after a wait of more than 15 years."

Please get your facts straight.

Before Feb they shipped just over half a million.

Then in Feb of 2009 they got up to one million shipped.

That means the rest were shipped during the rest of 2009

Dave, did you even bother to read the top of the page of this link? http://www.billboard.com/#/charts-year-end/the-billboard-200?year=2009&begin=41&order=position

You know, the part where it explicitly states "Year-End top-selling albums across all genres, ranked by sales data as compiled by Nielsen SoundScan."?

Before you start telling other people to get their facts straight, you should do the same.

Ali

Yeah, you got me this time.

I guess you reap what you sew right?

I was wrong, at least I can admit it. That is what I get for watching Raw and half reading a thread. :)

Posted

Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

Because its albums SHIPPED not sold.

The best buy total counts as a part of gnr sales even though they are all sitting on a shelf.

CD sold 500k in the US but get credit for 1.5m since that is about how many best buy bought.

Every copy was shipped in 2008 so, no, you are wrong

No I am not wrong because if that were true guns n roses would have gotten 1.5m sales for the month of sales which they did not.

They debuted at #3 on billboard.

Cd was not cerfified plantium until Feb of 2009

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/Blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=114073

"GUNS N' ROSES' new album, "Chinese Democracy", was officially certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) on February 3, 2009 for shipments in the United States in excess of one million copies. According to Nielsen SoundScan, the CD has shifted 537,000 units since it was released on November 23, 2008 as a Best Buy exclusive after a wait of more than 15 years."

Please get your facts straight.

Before Feb they shipped just over half a million.

Then in Feb of 2009 they got up to one million shipped.

That means the rest were shipped during the rest of 2009

Dave, did you even bother to read the top of the page of this link? http://www.billboard.com/#/charts-year-end/the-billboard-200?year=2009&begin=41&order=position

You know, the part where it explicitly states "Year-End top-selling albums across all genres, ranked by sales data as compiled by Nielsen SoundScan."?

Before you start telling other people to get their facts straight, you should do the same.

Ali

Yeah, you got me this time.

I guess you reap what you sew right?

I was wrong, at least I can admit it. That is what I get for watching Raw and half reading a thread. :)

Props for being man enough to admit it.

Ali

Posted
Metallica's Death Magnetic at #61? how is it possible that Chinese Democracy sold more than them this year, does anyone have any figure numbers?

DM came out much earlier in 2008 than CD did, and sold a good majority of its albums then.

CD had only 5 weeks worth of album sales in 2008, so it was essentially an 09 album.

"Much" earlier? What? Death Magnetic came out on September 12th. Chinese Democracy came out on November 23rd. Roughly two months difference. It's not like comparing March and November releases.

Ali

Posted (edited)

Also Charted On

#16 Top Rock Albums

#5 Top Hard Rock Albums

#15 Top Canadian Albums

This is talking about Chinese Democracy! Pretty damn good! :thumbsup:

Edited by DebbieNgeorgia
Posted (edited)

Guns N Roses Greatest Hits was also the 105th best selling album of the decade http://www.billboard.com/#/charts-decade-end/billboard-200-albums?year=2009&begin=101&order=position

and Guns N Roses were 121st on the Billboard hot 200 Artist of the decade http://www.billboard.com/#/charts-decade-end/billboard-200-artists?year=2009&begin=121&order=position

EDIT: Chinese democracy sold around the 500K mark this year

Edited by Use Your Delusion 1
Posted

I love how MUSE, the supposedly BIGGEST BAND EVERER, sold less from september to today than Chinese did from november 2008 to january 2009 and is quietly sitting at 124 for 2009 and 70 for January and how a certain someone fails to mention it... :rofl-lol:

Just saying, don't wanna start the debate again... :thumbsup:

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