SLASH says CD was the perfect AXL record

[hopkins]

great, another 20 pages of nested quote upon quote to look forward to

[riot]

On paper it is sure. But beside the band name, it has all the characterisitics of a solo album no? If not, I think Axl should offer a piece of the band name ownership to Ashba and Pittman. I mean after all, they ARE Guns N' Roses too right?

if it's a solo album then it wouldnt sound like this. axl once said that an solo record would be much more instrumental.

[Jackie Moon]

On paper it is sure. But beside the band name, it has all the characterisitics of a solo album no? If not, I think Axl should offer a piece of the band name ownership to Ashba and Pittman. I mean after all, they ARE Guns N' Roses too right?

i 100% agree its a solo act in the sense that axl holds all the cards. as far as the business goes, ashba and pittman are hired hands, nothing more.

musically i do see it as a band. i think the hired musicians, and there have been a ton, have each brought their own musical identity into the band. you can pick out bucket , ron, finck on the album with ease. i have more knowledge with bucket so he is a good example, his contributions and inspiration on the album is very clear.

not just the riffs and solos but song titles. i.e.

shackler's revenge

scraped

but at the end of the day it is the axl rose show, i agree. i dont even feel comfortable calling it guns n roses, i heard SOD on the radio the other day (for real) and the dj goes "thats the newest from guns n roses, street of dreams" and it just felt wrong. personally, i call it new gnr, i see nothing wrong wtih that, but thats my personal choice. to objectively say "its not guns n roses" is false.

[Kelmi]

When Bobfumelot quits, will you guys all hate him too?

the way we hate izzy, bucket, finck and paul tobias?

Gilby?

[Jackie Moon]

he should take a laptop into every interview with a typed out standard response for axl questions, let microsoft sam answer them.

[John Bonham]

I am sure Slash is going to get asked about Axl 100 more times promoting the new album......

and vice versa, which is one reason why Axl didn't promote his.

[Jackie Moon]

I am sure Slash is going to get asked about Axl 100 more times promoting the new album......

and vice versa, which is one reason why Axl didn't promote his.

im with you on the 'axl doesnt want to do interviews about slash' issue but its ironic considering when he did his few 'interviews' in late 08/early 09, all he could talk about was slash. we got a few CDII mentions but he clearly had little interest in discussing the future, mostly stuck in the past.

[ColdHeartBreaker]

I wonder when we'll get the rest of the "iceberg" ..

[Orsys]

I wonder when we'll get the rest of the "iceberg" ..

I suspect its buried in confidentiality clauses in lawsuit settlements, maybe where it belongs.

[Guest Apollo]

I agree with Slash.

CD is perfect and Axl is fuckin' phenomenal.

CD is the product of a neurotic, psychotic, bi-polar 10 year old who can't seem to let go of the past, so he writes songs like Sorry and Shackler's Revenge.

Your post is the product of a neurotic, psychotic, bi-polar 10-year-old who can's seem to let go of the past, so he writes posts bashing a grown man who he has never met or spoken to in real life.

[moreblack]

because that's what you are if you don't agree/love everything Axl.

[ColdHeartBreaker]

because that's what you are if you don't agree/love everything Axl.

What GeorgeGlass said was a childish outburst on a fan-forum, not a " I don't like that song "

Can't believe i'm defending apollo

[Guest Apollo]

Slash: I’m more standoffish because I know how vehemently he hates me. So that sort of makes me doubt it. But if we ran into each other and all that animosity were to pass for a second, then I’m sure we could have an interesting conversation.

Does it seem like a bit of a back handed compliment? Yes, he thinks Axl is phenominal, but 'he hates me' making himself the victim again, like he never had any part in the problems.

Having said that, I'm not sure what else he can say when they keep bringing it up in interviews. Maybe he could leave it at 'we've gone our separate ways'.

I find it interesting that Slash was being honest to the questions answered and, even complimented Axl on ChiDem, yet Axlites are so paranoid that they have to overanalyze the interview to try to find something negative.

Slash was just being honest what exactly did he say which was not true or negative towards Axl?

1. The album is exacly what he expected from Axl based on how the UYI albums went... Axl's music was evolving even during the AFD days, see November Rain which missed the cut on AFD, and it has become more complex...Is this not true?

2. ChiDem is a dark album..again is this not true...he was not criticzing Axl's music just making an observation...

3. He commented on how Axl hates him.........He was honestly answering about the chances of him and Axl talking again..he was not being a victim as Axl has made it very clear he hates him......

I admire Slash for answering these questions honestly while being respectful to Axl...............don't see Axl ever giving Slash the same courtesy..............

Man, I am so tired of this all or nothing, infantile type of discussion that keeps happening. If you disagree with anything Slash says, then you're an Axlite who hates Slash. Hey, I love my kid, but I still call him on his crap. Why don't you try to have a conversation, presenting differing viewpoints instead of just jumping to the accusations which you did right off the bat in your post. If you read further, I did suggest that I wasn't sure what else he could do since they kept bringing it up. It's a pretty narrow view of the GnR world to require categorization as a Slashite or Axlite. I actually don't read much that puts many members in one or the other. Most seem to appreciate a lot about both of these guys.

Open your mind a bit.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you, excellent post.

It's so funny how one side will whine and cry about the other.....while they are calling the other side axlites or slasholes and bashing them for their post.

You are exactly right. Most people have chosen a side - but MOST GnR fans - probably 90% of us - still follow, enjoy, respect BOTH musicans. And eagerly await hearing music from BOTH sides. It is just 5-6 "fans" on this board from both sides that give both sides a bad name.

[moreblack]

because that's what you are if you don't agree/love everything Axl.

What GeorgeGlass said was a childish outburst on a fan-forum, not a " I don't like that song "

Can't believe i'm defending apollo

it's all good, it's just another day at mygnr news & discussion...

[Estranged Reality]

It's amazing how such small and trivial things can set off such vitriolic threads.

And they always pretty much revert to the same Axl-fans-versus-Slash-fans thing with the same arguments used every time. It doesn't really matter what Slash or Axl say about each other because each time it comes down to the same squabbling and tired "points," most of which are really just opinions and based on how you perceive the two men to begin with...

[Nintari]

I take neither Axl NOR Slash's side.....my allegiance is with IZZY.

[FuddMckagan]

It's amazing how such small and trivial things can set off such vitriolic threads.

And they always pretty much revert to the same Axl-fans-versus-Slash-fans thing with the same arguments used every time. It doesn't really matter what Slash or Axl say about each other because each time it comes down to the same squabbling and tired "points," most of which are really just opinions and based on how you perceive the two men to begin with...

Exactly.

I imagine even if Slash said "no comment" to these questions, people would still say "Oh he's trying to say Axl is evil, and that he's the victim blah blah blah" Some of you guys are like a broken record. He's just saying what the whole world already knows in that Axl hates him. You say it all the time, yet when he says it, it's "Oh he's saying bad stuff about Axl, I'm gonna bash him"

Seriously, some of you guys need to chill, and maybe get a life while you're at it.

[ColdHeartBreaker]

It's amazing how such small and trivial things can set off such vitriolic threads.

And they always pretty much revert to the same Axl-fans-versus-Slash-fans thing with the same arguments used every time. It doesn't really matter what Slash or Axl say about each other because each time it comes down to the same squabbling and tired "points," most of which are really just opinions and based on how you perceive the two men to begin with...

Exactly.

I imagine even if Slash said "no comment" to these questions, people would still say "Oh he's trying to say Axl is evil, and that he's the victim blah blah blah" Some of you guys are like a broken record. He's just saying what the whole world already knows in that Axl hates him. You say it all the time, yet when he says it, it's "Oh he's saying bad stuff about Axl, I'm gonna bash him"

Seriously, some of you guys need to chill, and maybe get a life while you're at it.

Voice of reason or captain obvious?

I think you guys should stop taking these threads so seriously, I mean, who does? really?

[FuddMckagan]

It's amazing how such small and trivial things can set off such vitriolic threads.

And they always pretty much revert to the same Axl-fans-versus-Slash-fans thing with the same arguments used every time. It doesn't really matter what Slash or Axl say about each other because each time it comes down to the same squabbling and tired "points," most of which are really just opinions and based on how you perceive the two men to begin with...

Exactly.

I imagine even if Slash said "no comment" to these questions, people would still say "Oh he's trying to say Axl is evil, and that he's the victim blah blah blah" Some of you guys are like a broken record. He's just saying what the whole world already knows in that Axl hates him. You say it all the time, yet when he says it, it's "Oh he's saying bad stuff about Axl, I'm gonna bash him"

Seriously, some of you guys need to chill, and maybe get a life while you're at it.

Voice of reason or captain obvious?

I think you guys should stop taking these threads so seriously, I mean, who does? really?

I was just pointing out how stupid some of the posts in here are.

But I agree that people take it to serious.

[SunnyDRE]

It's amazing how such small and trivial things can set off such vitriolic threads.

And they always pretty much revert to the same Axl-fans-versus-Slash-fans thing with the same arguments used every time. It doesn't really matter what Slash or Axl say about each other because each time it comes down to the same squabbling and tired "points," most of which are really just opinions and based on how you perceive the two men to begin with...

Exactly.

I imagine even if Slash said "no comment" to these questions, people would still say "Oh he's trying to say Axl is evil, and that he's the victim blah blah blah" Some of you guys are like a broken record. He's just saying what the whole world already knows in that Axl hates him. You say it all the time, yet when he says it, it's "Oh he's saying bad stuff about Axl, I'm gonna bash him"

Seriously, some of you guys need to chill, and maybe get a life while you're at it.

No that wasn't what he was trying to say. Or he would have said.

Slash isn't stupid.

Of course he's not going to say "We hate each other", that would just make him look just as bad as axl.

[WARCAT]

If the Axl lovers are wanting to get there panties in a bunch then take a good look at what Slash is saying: It's an Axl record not a GnR record. He's right too.

2008 - guns n' roses - chinese democracy

boom.

AGREED!!!!! chinese democracy IS the newest Guns N' Roses Album- FACT!!

[Lose Your Illusions]

DJ Ashba invented the Welcome to the Jungle riff, and the SCOM riff. Slash stole them. Also the guitar riff of Paradise City, was invented by Bumblefoot. Right?

(sigh) dont know why i clicked on this thread.

i personally am sick and dont give a fuck about slash talking about CD/Axl anymore.

maybe in the summer of 2008 or 2007 or 2003-2004 i'd slightly care ( because theres no nuGNR news) but not now.

this is the greatest time for new GNR, Axl on the top of his game etc

BUT u guys can keep workin on your anti Axl Slashite comedy material, if thats what makes u happy in life.

Just remember its not gonna bring about a reunion. Every joke u make against Axl or insult against him or the new band just widens the gap for a reunion between the two.

and because a reunion would simply be giving in to people who bash axl yet want a reunion like u people

I'm perfectly fine with that.

That's it!!!!!! I was wondering why there has been no reunion!! Now I know it is because of threads like these that Axl hates Slash and called him a cancer...Yup it is all our fault there is no reunion....Now that the truth has been discovered I hope you are all very happy now!!!!!!!!!!

Ok so ur saying that its ok to call Axl names and still want him to give a reunion for the people who call him names and all shit.

[SunnyDRE]

I love how Slash always uses the same strategy when talking about Axl.

He says something positive about Axl first, praising his ability as a frontman or his album, voice etc

THEN

he points out something negative - he hates me, he won't talk to me, we have no contact blah blah blah

Clever boy Slash. Always paint yourself as the victim and Axl as the monster.

At least Axl is honest about his feelings, even if he is blunt as fuck about it.

He is pointing out the truth not being negative..The interviewer asked him if he would ever talk to Axl again and he told the truth...Axl does hate him or are you rewriting history on that also.....Nothing negative about his response...You Axlites really are dellusional.......................

He wasn't whining he was telling it like it is................

No he isn't. When Slash says that, he is speaking for Axl and this interviewer is stupid.

After slash said that, the interviewer should have asked him, "do you hate him to?" or "Why does he hate you."

He let him off the hook!!.

With all due respect Sunny please don't tell me you are saying Axl has not made it clear he hates Slash...................Oye, where is the palm to face plant when you need it...................

Like I said, any reporter worth a damn, needs to finally ask slash, "why axl hates him" and "if he hates axl.'

it is like the reporter goes half way there - then turns around. And by leaving it like that, deservedly or not, it makes axl look bad.

[Jackie Moon]

i dont really see a problem here. nothing slash said was unreasonable. whats the controversy here? just a bunch of slasholes trying to stir controversy.

apollo you genius. why didnt i think of that.

things were reasonable (both axlites, slasholes making good posts) until this:

CD is the product of a neurotic, psychotic, bi-polar 10 year old who can't seem to let go of the past, so he writes songs like Sorry and Shackler's Revenge.

thats the root of all evil.

Edited April 5, 2010 by Jackie Moon

[WARCAT]

I agree with Slash.

CD is perfect and Axl is fuckin' phenomenal.

CD is the product of a neurotic, psychotic, bi-polar 10 year old who can't seem to let go of the past, so he writes songs like Sorry and Shackler's Revenge.

Your post is the product of a neurotic, psychotic, bi-polar 10-year-old who can's seem to let go of the past, so he writes posts bashing a grown man who he has never met or spoken to in real life.

Applause Apollo!! $la$h knows in his snaky mind that the surest was to get his "interviews" circulated is to mention Axl, just like thousands of other UNnamed journalists.