Axl Knows Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I think they are. Much more consistent. The guitar work especially is MUCH better live these days. Slash and Izzy were (and still are) pretty sloppy on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspalding22 Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Are you serious? The UYI tours were incredible, I've never seen anything close to it before or after. Saw the '06 show in Boston and while I still enjoyed it, not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl Knows Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share Posted July 13, 2010 Are you serious? The UYI tours were incredible, I've never seen anything close to it before or after. Saw the '06 show in Boston and while I still enjoyed it, not even close.Come off it, the UYI tour started sucking ass halfway through. The band had like zero chemistry at that point and the tension on stage was palpable. They were going through the motions big time. Today's band look like they actually WANT to be on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Now that Dj does not fuck up anymore, the shows seem more or less flawless from a technical point of view ( not talking about Axl's voice because it varies from song to song ).As regards the entertainement you get out of them, it probably depends on how much you are willing to let yourself go with the flow, to lose yourself in it.If you constantly keep telling yourself "THIS ISN'T GNR" then the shows will suck, no matter how good the performances actually are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Noone is better than the Appetite For Destruction lineup.This band totally fucking rocks though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I wouldn't even compare it to the AFD lineup.They don't have the same approach to the songs.The AFD lineup was a barebones, straight-forward rock n' roll band.This line-up has more of a progressive/alternative-rock approach to the songs.It all depends on what you like then. If you want GnR to be a rock n' roll band, then the AFD lineup probably was tons better. If you like the whole huge production, wall of sound, epic concerts thing, then NuGnR delivers.Two different approaches. NuGnR plays GnR songs with Rob Zombie's visual effects and NIN's production.I personally love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) The band is fucking tight. I went to the São Paulo concert, even Axl, he said he had a sore throat, but he was fucking awesome. Edited July 13, 2010 by ManetsBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seely Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I wouldn't even compare it to the AFD lineup.They don't have the same approach to the songs.The AFD lineup was a barebones, straight-forward rock n' roll band.This line-up has more of a progressive/alternative-rock approach to the songs.It all depends on what you like then. If you want GnR to be a rock n' roll band, then the AFD lineup probably was tons better. If you like the whole huge production, wall of sound, epic concerts thing, then NuGnR delivers.Two different approaches. NuGnR plays GnR songs with Rob Zombie's visual effects and NIN's production.I personally love it.This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lines&Noses Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) I wouldn't even compare it to the AFD lineup.They don't have the same approach to the songs.The AFD lineup was a barebones, straight-forward rock n' roll band.This line-up has more of a progressive/alternative-rock approach to the songs.It all depends on what you like then. If you want GnR to be a rock n' roll band, then the AFD lineup probably was tons better. If you like the whole huge production, wall of sound, epic concerts thing, then NuGnR delivers.Two different approaches. NuGnR plays GnR songs with Rob Zombie's visual effects and NIN's production.I personally love it.I agree with your synopsis.Personally I prefer the older version sadly I only got to see the old band once but I have seen the nu band 3 times once with bucket twice without.For me the 91 Wembly show with the original band (sans steven) is the best concert I have ever seen. Bear in mind though I prefer the original line up. It was also one of the first concers I ever saw but it was just sensational!I also think the Rizt 88 show is the es I have seen from the band full stop although I was not there.I getta say though that the Hammersmith warm up show in 06 was awesome.I do like some of what the new band does, I really like the musical introductions they use and you can't help but be impressed by the large screens and stage show in general.L&N Edited July 13, 2010 by Lines&Noses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I think they're much more consistent than previous incarnations of Gn'R. They're also probably a little bit safer in terms of showing up and delivering a full show.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naupis Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 It all depends on what you like then. If you want GnR to be a rock n' roll band, then the AFD lineup probably was tons better. If you like the whole huge production, wall of sound, epic concerts thing, then NuGnR delivers.Two different approachesExactly. Slash is out touring with the old GNR, pre-Illusions vision of the 5 piece, raw play the shit out of the songs band and Axl is out with his vision of GNR in more of an Illusions vain with the much larger stage show with the 3 guitar attack, 2 keyboard/synth guys and all of the stage craft that comes with the production that is a GNR show now. You can go to one, both, whatever floats your boat. I will say though it is a little weird when you consider how different the approach is by each respective band towards the same songs (the GNR ones they are both playing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl Knows Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share Posted July 13, 2010 For me the 91 Wembly show with the original band (sans steven) is the best concert I have ever seen. Bear in mind though I prefer the original line up. Axl's voice was awful in that show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixAreForKids Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) I like what I hear from the new band live. However, still don't think they have reached the consistency and cohesivness of the old lineup. It will take time, but if they stay together and enjoy working together live, I don't doubt they will attain that achievement.Hey - I reached 1000 posts. Yay for me!!! rock1 Edited July 13, 2010 by TrixAreForKids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll_tj1 Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I like what I hear from the new band live. However, still don't think they have reached the consistency and cohesivness of the old lineup. It will take time, but if they stay together and enjoy working together live, I don't doubt they will attain that achievement.Hey - I reached 1000 posts. Yay for me!!! rock1 The difference in the past and the now is simply Axl. Axl used to come on stage with an explosive energy, sometimes negative, sometimes positive energy, but none the less, pure energy. They had to pull the faders back when Axl was in his hey day. He was (and I understand there will be some Freddie Mercury, Steven Tyler, and others to argue about) the BEST frontman EVER!! I saw Them in 1989, and 1992, and Axl commanded the stage. I'll give Slash and the band there due, they were great, but everyones attention was always on Axl Rose. The guys voice exploded on your ears often overpowering the guitars, drums and bass. If you have not seen the reaction Axl gets in his duet with Elton John on Bohemiun Rhapsody, you've got to see it, to me thats the Axl Rose I remember seeing in concert. The crowd explodes, and he just nails the entire performance, I forgot Elton was even there. Axl still is incredible, and his voice today is bringing back the memories of the AFD and Illusion era, but its just different. The prescence is drained, to long he has been missing from the music scene, and no longer is reveled by millions. My kids only know who Axl is because of what i've told them. I'd love it if Axl became part of the mainstream again so everyone (especially the youth of today) could see what an incredible artist, vocalist and performer this guy is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lines&Noses Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 For me the 91 Wembly show with the original band (sans steven) is the best concert I have ever seen. Bear in mind though I prefer the original line up. Axl's voice was awful in that show.I have heard some of the bootlegs and he does sound off for much of it, but on the day I was really didn't notice it that much. (Perhaps the fact that I had never heard the illusions songs before meant that I had nothing to benchmark them against)Or maybe it was the aural equivalent or rose tinted glasses?That's the thing though I see all these posts about which guitarist made the most screw ups or whatever, but I think the person who was most erratic in their performance was Axl?Don't get me wrong I love the guy and i don't go to a concert to hear a note perfect rendition of whats on the album but sometimes his vocals can be all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tberrie007 Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 It all depends on what you like then. If you want GnR to be a rock n' roll band, then the AFD lineup probably was tons better. If you like the whole huge production, wall of sound, epic concerts thing, then NuGnR delivers.Two different approachesExactly. Slash is out touring with the old GNR, pre-Illusions vision of the 5 piece, raw play the shit out of the songs band and Axl is out with his vision of GNR in more of an Illusions vain with the much larger stage show with the 3 guitar attack, 2 keyboard/synth guys and all of the stage craft that comes with the production that is a GNR show now. You can go to one, both, whatever floats your boat. I will say though it is a little weird when you consider how different the approach is by each respective band towards the same songs (the GNR ones they are both playing).Great post, actually sums it up pretty good. Funny thing is, i do like both approaches, but from all the youtube vids of the slash shows ive watched, as much as i still like them and love slash, they do should a b it hollow do they not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Satanisk_Slakt Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Axl's current band don't have shit on real GN'R. Still good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-nine Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I think they are. Much more consistent. The guitar work especially is MUCH better live these days. Slash and Izzy were (and still are) pretty sloppy on stage.If you asked this question the other way around people would say you were a cupcake. To me it's like comparing MJ and LeBron. People are so quick to compare and call people the next MJ that they forget how good MJ actually was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdlove Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Too me they're better. Members and all that shit is irrelevant to me. I just care about the music and they nail it each and every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lines&Noses Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Too me they're better. Members and all that shit is irrelevant to me. I just care about the music and they nail it each and every time.I do think the old Izzy and Slash had a chemistry that has not been replicated since Izzy left. (I am not convinced they were particularly error prone either?) It has not helped that the guitarists in the nu-band have changed so many times but in time I don;t see why they wont achieve a equally good chemistry of their own.The one song for me that the nu-Band in any of its incarnations never seem to get right is You Could be Mine. Even with bucket on board this song sounds kinda washed out and one dimensional. Also Mr Bwonstone was one of the highlights of the set for me, I loved the way slash played it live with the huge extra bend just after the solo. (That said I don't think any of the bands old or new ever got intro right live which is a real shame becuase it's my favourite part!!)I do like the way the nu-Band opened the shows I saw with "Welcome to the Jungle" and teased out the intro. Also I know a lot of people rave about the nu-band doing nighttrain and while I'm not sure I prefer it to the original I have to say the fact they could take such a song and make it their own says a lot!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Old band was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzygirl Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmygod Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalus Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Noone is better than the Appetite For Destruction lineup.This band totally fucking rocks though!This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nasty Nate Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 No, quite the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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