Bands That Need to Retire ASAP

[Guest Len B'stard]

Retirement? It's a band, not a job in the post office, whats age got to do with music? And oh yeah, tip, they're all in it for the money...sorry to disappoint you but if it didn't pay it'd be a hobby and then there'd be nothing to retire from. This cult of youth thing is ridiculous, it appears as the pop chart toppers get more and more younger aging is becoming less and less acceptable. Britney Spears is considered past it now, what the fucks going on in this world?

If you don't like the music don't buy the album don't see the show, if you've got a halfway intelligent criticism i'd like to hear but "they're too old"...told old for what? To play a guitar you mean? Or sing? I don't get it..

The Stones need to quit while they're ahead? ahead of what? Find me some youngblood that can put on a show/write tunes like The Stones or say...Iggy Pop and we'll continue this discussion. Grandpa only shows you the way when you're lost

Edited July 15, 2010 by sugaraylen

[moreblack]

Interesting all the bands you mentioned would probabaly draw more here in the U.S. then NuGnR...

And as far as bands making the same old tired music, AC/DC has been making the same album their whole career and have one of the biggest fan bases in Rock so they must be doing something people like so why retire?

You see a doc like Flight 666 and realize what a band like that means to people. There's no retiring.

[coolio GNR]

Bob Dylan-

Live performances only

Roger Waters-

He still has the energy and enthusiasm, but he has seriously lost his voice almost completely. After The Wall Tour, he should retire unless he is going to do something with David Gilmour again.

Those are the only ones I can think of right now.

[Guest Len B'stard]

Bob Dylan-

Live performances only

I hear he subverts peoples expectations...which ain't a lot different from what he's always done.

[coolio GNR]

Bob Dylan-

Live performances only

I hear he subverts peoples expectations...which ain't a lot different from what he's always done.

That is why I am saying he should retire from live performances. He has the lost the energy and voice that he once had.

[Black Sabbath]

Bands like U2 (especially), Pearl Jam, and Iron Maiden definitely aren't in it for the money. They still do what they do because they enjoy doing it and they do it for their fans.

U2, especially, care about their fans to an extreme; More than a lot of other bands I've seen.

Now, as for bands like KISS, I'd say a big reason they still tour is because of money, but I can also say that they also continue to do it because they all love doing it.

That is all; I will not post in this thread again.

Fin.

[GivenToFly]

^ poster that needs to retire ASAP

[Young_Gun]

Seriously, just tour around and play the hits. No one wants to hear your new shit. It's all terrible.

same goes for GNR

Nah, NUGNR are first of all a completely different line-up, writing and playing mostly a completely different type of music to what made them famous. They ARE esentially an Axl solo band and alot of people love the new stuff. Completely different from bands like Maiden who release the exact same album over and over again but with diminishing quality.

Not so fast... musically Chinese Democracy is no different than the Use Your Illusions, its just a thicker UYI with way more production. The songs aren't different in style at all, except for maybe shacklers, but shacklers just sucks

The Use Your Illusion albums were pure bluesy, guitar-based hard rock besides some of the songs Axl penned (Breakdown, November Rain, Dead Horse, Estranged). Chinese Democracy has moved almost entirely away from that. It's more of a progressive metal album. Please don't try to tell me that There Was a Time, Street of Dreams, If The World, or Prostitute sound anything like what came out of the UYI sessions (besides the aforementioned Axl songs).

I hope you're trollin, cause its either that or you don't know what you're talking about at all

You're telling me there's no bluesy hard rock to be found in songs like Catcher in the Rye, Chinese Democracy, Sorry, This I Love, Madagascar, If The World, Rhiad, There Was A Time, Scraped, or Street of Dreams??? You can't just slap a few layers of synth and extra vocals on top of hard rock songs and call it progressive metal... sorry pal, it doesn't work that way. Axl himself wouldn't call Chinese Democracy progressive, he isn't that much of a dumbass. I'll even go as far to say there's more of the blues influence on Chinese Democracy than there was on the Illusions, Slash indulged in a wider array of modes and scales than he has in his entire career with those albums.

The differences in song structure between UYI and Chinese Democracy are VERY minor, and to compare them with something like PROGRESSIVE METAL is a complete joke. You think the songwriting on Chinese Democracy is on the same level as Dream Theatre, Porcupine Tree, or Opeth? GTFO

CD is nothing beyond a solid hard rock album, there's noting wrong with that, just don't go around talking about it like its some new groundbreaking refreshing style that steps in a direction away from what GNR has done in the past , because it doesn't do that at all. In fact, it does a surprisingly good job of replicating the classic GNR sound, with a few added textures of course

Um only the leads/solos on Chidem had some blues/pentatonic scales, hell most of the solos were in the Aolian/dorian/chromatic/harmonic minor scales too. The actual riffs didn't have many blues notes in them, compared to UYI. I think Chidem is quite progressive, theres alot of structure changes and different things going on. Just because some solos had some blues notes thrown in doesn't make it a hard rock blues album. The TIL solo is actually a mix of natural minor, pentatonic and harmonic minor with some odd notes outside the scale thrown in.

[sweetness]

Um only the leads/solos on Chidem had some blues/pentatonic scales, hell most of the solos were in the Aolian/dorian/chromatic/harmonic minor scales too. The actual riffs didn't have many blues notes in them, compared to UYI. I think Chidem is quite progressive, theres alot of structure changes and different things going on. Just because some solos had some blues notes thrown in doesn't make it a hard rock blues album.

Oh come on I'm not saying there aren't other influences, I'm just standing by the fact that the blues influence from the early days WAS NOT stripped from the sound like somebody earlier suggested as if it made Chinese Democracy a more "progressive metal" album. Maybe pseudo progressive... but not progressive in the sense that you would normally refer to progressive bands, it just isn't the right term. Chinese Democracy is straight up 4/4 rock n roll with added layers of production, I don't see how you could call it anything else. And no, it isn't just a matter of a few blues notes thrown in to guitar solos, songs like Sorry and Catcher have the old school blues rock feel going throughout the entire track. Are we talking about the same album?

The TIL solo is actually a mix of natural minor, pentatonic and harmonic minor with some odd notes outside the scale thrown in.

as if Slash never did that... what's your point?

[Guest Apollo]

Why is it that when people on this forum don't like the last GnR album....they are always huge Slash lovers? Downgrading Axl or Axl's music doesn't somehow make Slash "better."

.

Its ok to like and follow both.

[Powerage5]

Priest, Maiden and Aerosmith all still kick ass, both live and in studio (though not to keen on Maiden's new single), they're still better than most new bands out there at the minute.

Maiden don't release the same album over and over, try comin up with a more original argument. Saw them live in 2008, absolutely kicked arse,an amazing show, gutted i'm not gonna be going to Sonisphere to see them this year (GN'R at reading and leeds instead). All their recent albums have been brilliant, though i'm not too keen on the 2 songs from the new album that hve been released, i'm sure there'll be plenty of brilliant stuff on there.

Priest: what does the fact Halford is gay got to do with anything? They change with almost every album (guess i'm one of the few people who LIKED Nostradamus), which keeps things fresh, and live they always give a good show. Sadly missed them last year as they cancelled the Nottingham date i was gonna go to at the last minute, and i couldnt get to any of the other shows, but from watching live footage, plus what i've been told frommany friends, they kick major arse

+1

People tend to forget that Maiden ALWAYS release the weakest songs from an album before the album drops. Everything is playing out identical to '06 leading up to A Matter Of Life And Death. 95% of their fan base wrote the album off as shit based on The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg, Different World, and Brighter Than A Thousand Suns. As soon as everyone heard the full album, it was hailed as a masterpiece. Remember, Nicko promised us a very progressive album, and lots of stuff Maiden has never done before. We've yet to hear either of these in The Final Frontier or El Dorado.

[Tater Totts]

Priest, Maiden and Aerosmith all still kick ass, both live and in studio (though not to keen on Maiden's new single), they're still better than most new bands out there at the minute.

Maiden don't release the same album over and over, try comin up with a more original argument. Saw them live in 2008, absolutely kicked arse,an amazing show, gutted i'm not gonna be going to Sonisphere to see them this year (GN'R at reading and leeds instead). All their recent albums have been brilliant, though i'm not too keen on the 2 songs from the new album that hve been released, i'm sure there'll be plenty of brilliant stuff on there.

Priest: what does the fact Halford is gay got to do with anything? They change with almost every album (guess i'm one of the few people who LIKED Nostradamus), which keeps things fresh, and live they always give a good show. Sadly missed them last year as they cancelled the Nottingham date i was gonna go to at the last minute, and i couldnt get to any of the other shows, but from watching live footage, plus what i've been told frommany friends, they kick major arse

+1

People tend to forget that Maiden ALWAYS release the weakest songs from an album before the album drops. Everything is playing out identical to '06 leading up to A Matter Of Life And Death. 95% of their fan base wrote the album off as shit based on The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg, Different World, and Brighter Than A Thousand Suns. As soon as everyone heard the full album, it was hailed as a masterpiece. Remember, Nicko promised us a very progressive album, and lots of stuff Maiden has never done before. We've yet to hear either of these in The Final Frontier or El Dorado.

Oh for sure.

I mean when AMOLAD dropped I thought it was great. In particular the final 3 songs. Out of the Shadows was great and I remember loving it. I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few of the tracks sound very different than anything they have done before. Hopefully though there will be slightly less Harris slow tempo bass intro and outros

[LightningBolt]

I thought the bass sounded kinda strange on AMOLAD.

[Tater Totts]

For sure.

Sounded a bit weak at times and acousticy.

Not like the old rumbling thunder Harris bass off the earlier records, but then again I think that the bass on AMOLAD isn't that well mixed

[seely]

Well they didn't actually master AMOLAD, they kept it as 100% live as possible, hence why it sounds odd in places

[inthisriver]

I don't think I can wait any longer for the new Radiohead album.

[cold_as_ice]

U2.

Besides the fact that Bono is the most annoying person alive... It's one thing to have a distinguished sound, it's another to have all the songs sound exactly the same/alike.

[eye2eye]

U2.

Besides the fact that Bono is the most annoying person alive... It's one thing to have a distinguished sound, it's another to have all the songs sound exactly the same/alike.

WTF ? What are you using dude ?

Compare Boym Joshua Tree ,Achtung Baby and Zooropa the songs don't even sound similar between those records even All that You Can't Leave Behind and No Line on Horizon have huge differences .... you can hate a band it it matter of taste but stop making stupid untrue points.

[inthisriver]

I'm no U2 fanboy by any means, but the whole "u2 suck and bono is a pretentious fag" fad has become pretty tired. Honestly, what's the point?

[Eah]

U2 it's one of the few band that has reinvented their sound the most through out the years. Listen to Boy and then listen to War they don't sound the same, then listen to the Joshua Tree and then jump to Zooropa, huge change there, even with How To Dismantle and No line there is a gap, the only thing that happens is that you can easily recognise Edge's guitar sound in every record. The same band only in different stages or phases of experimentation.

[AbominableHoman]

I'm no U2 fanboy by any means, but the whole "u2 suck and bono is a pretentious fag" fad has become pretty tired. Honestly, what's the point?

They're really that uninspiring and horrible.

Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of It and you're video is a football kicker relieving his failed kick? I knew from that moment on "This band is glorified shit".

[inthisriver]

I'm no U2 fanboy by any means, but the whole "u2 suck and bono is a pretentious fag" fad has become pretty tired. Honestly, what's the point?

They're really that uninspiring and horrible.

Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of It and you're video is a football kicker relieving his failed kick? I knew from that moment on "This band is glorified shit".

I've never seen the video, because I'm not really a U2 guy..... ya dig? That's why I don't need to go around trashing them.

[hbkdx1125]

Okay personally I'm not the biggest U2 fan. I mean I like a good many of their songs. One.... awesome! Sunday Bloody Sunday.... amazing! Elevation.... amazingly awesome! Anyways I can definitely say that they do the damn thing. They put out albums on a consistent basis (And from what I've heard from their albums, they are all quite different). They still tour quite a bit. Like I said, I'm not the biggest U2 fan but I can't knock them. They do everything that a good band is supposed to do.

[cold_as_ice]

U2.

Besides the fact that Bono is the most annoying person alive... It's one thing to have a distinguished sound, it's another to have all the songs sound exactly the same/alike.

WTF ? What are you using dude ?

Compare Boym Joshua Tree ,Achtung Baby and Zooropa the songs don't even sound similar between those records even All that You Can't Leave Behind and No Line on Horizon have huge differences .... you can hate a band it it matter of taste but stop making stupid untrue points.

My remark was about the band not you, trool. It's my opinion. And it's always true.

But seriously, the haven't made one significant album since Achtung Baby.

[Tater Totts]

U2.

Besides the fact that Bono is the most annoying person alive... It's one thing to have a distinguished sound, it's another to have all the songs sound exactly the same/alike.

WTF ? What are you using dude ?

Compare Boym Joshua Tree ,Achtung Baby and Zooropa the songs don't even sound similar between those records even All that You Can't Leave Behind and No Line on Horizon have huge differences .... you can hate a band it it matter of taste but stop making stupid untrue points.

My remark was about the band not you, trool. It's my opinion. And it's always true.

But seriously, the haven't made one significant album since Achtung Baby.

But their songs don't sound exactly the same.