ITW 2012 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) Do you think Axl is still the best frontman around? I honestly don't think anybody can touch Axl. Being a frontman seems like a lost art at this point. It's sure going to suck when he retires. Edited August 5, 2010 by ITW 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsys Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I agree. He does it for me. When he's on stage, it's hard to watch anything else. He's the reason I noticed GnR in the first place. He brings that attitude that you had better look at me, deal with me, cause I'm in your face until I leave this stage.It doesn't matter if people think he's an egomaniac and total asshole. It all feeds into making him such an amazing frontman. Maybe those ingredients are even necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I prefer Mike Patton...Never gave a bad performance ( or I've never heard one ), always looked cool, and his batshit craziness can rival Axl's.But yeah, Axl has more charisma and a more distinctive voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAC185 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 On his day, but you have to also understand that sometimes he is clearly going through the motions and it takes a while for his voice to find his feet. I mean, back in the day I think his performances were incredible regardless of his vocals because there was so much power and energy, but these days a patchy vocal can sound alot more noticably weak. Admittedly this is few and far between where it actually detracts from the performance noticably in the venue and youtube is a bit of a bastard for those kind of things. Axl was untouchable back in the day and there were alot more classic frontmen present back then, now as you say, it is somewhat of a dying art so he definitely stands out.On a similar note, could anyone post some videos from this tour where Axl is totally on fire? Top notch vocals, showmanship etc. I am sure there are plenty I just want to show some mates how good he can still be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anahzul Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Do you think Axl is still the best frontman around? Totally. He is one of the best frontman. He is entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquor & Whores Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Of course.I regret that he doesn't run so much as in 2006, for example, but noone is getting younger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I'll take Bono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I honestly think his best days are behind him, but that happens to most rock frontmen. I think it hits Axl harder than some like Jagger, though, because he was such a raw and energetic performer - from the way he sang to the way he flung himself around stage. So the wear and tear is more noticeable than it might be for comparable musicians who weren't as physical on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlIsGod. Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 On his day, but you have to also understand that sometimes he is clearly going through the motions and it takes a while for his voice to find his feet. I mean, back in the day I think his performances were incredible regardless of his vocals because there was so much power and energy, but these days a patchy vocal can sound alot more noticably weak. Admittedly this is few and far between where it actually detracts from the performance noticably in the venue and youtube is a bit of a bastard for those kind of things. Axl was untouchable back in the day and there were alot more classic frontmen present back then, now as you say, it is somewhat of a dying art so he definitely stands out.On a similar note, could anyone post some videos from this tour where Axl is totally on fire? Top notch vocals, showmanship etc. I am sure there are plenty I just want to show some mates how good he can still be. (Defo gets better throughout, listen to BBF solo!) Just a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naupis Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I honestly think his best days are behind him, but that happens to most rock frontmen. Age does happen to anyone for sure.I do think if he was willing to work a little harder as far as his physical conditioning goes that the drop-off would be far more gradual. I think people would be amazed at the wonders a little time on the treadmill would do Axl if he would commit to getting his ass in shape. He makes his money singing, and improving his cardio and conditioning would make him sound world's better and allow him to put on a better show without getting winded and needing a break every 2 seconds because he is gassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprite Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 The best by far. I've never seen anyone with axls stage presense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeles_ Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) Axl IS, WAS and WILL BE the best frontman for ever!!!!! Edited August 5, 2010 by Angeles_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprite Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Axl was a great frontman when he sang d'yer mak'er in jr. High and allthe kids made fun of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeryen Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I prefer Mike Patton...Never gave a bad performance ( or I've never heard one ), always looked cool, and his batshit craziness can rival Axl's.But yeah, Axl has more charisma and a more distinctive voice.Yeah, I'll go with Patton. Or Richard D. James. over Axl. any day.Patton and D. James have remained contemporary, fresh, and challenge themselves musically.Axl is just an insane retro act in 2010, sadly.still think he has a kick ass, fuck you slash, album in him, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tat2d1 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Stage presence: Yes, Voice Quality: No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Not anymore, but he's got a whole new generation of younger more energetic frontmen to compete withBack in the late 80's, early 90's, he was king Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funcadelic Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Not anymore, but he's got a whole new generation of younger more energetic frontmen to compete withBack in the late 80's, early 90's, he was kingHe does? Could you name even one guy from the 00's that can compete with (old) Axl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Not anymore, but he's got a whole new generation of younger more energetic frontmen to compete withBack in the late 80's, early 90's, he was kingHe does? Could you name even one guy from the 00's that can compete with (old) Axl?In the early part of the 2000's: Fred Durst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 Not anymore, but he's got a whole new generation of younger more energetic frontmen to compete withBack in the late 80's, early 90's, he was kingWho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Not anymore, but he's got a whole new generation of younger more energetic frontmen to compete withBack in the late 80's, early 90's, he was kingHe does? Could you name even one guy from the 00's that can compete with (old) Axl?He was specifically referring to the current Axl, not "old Axl." So asking him to come up with names for people better than Axl in his prime when he just said that Axl in the '80s and '90s "was king" is a bit pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nata Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I prefer Mike Patton...Never gave a bad performance ( or I've never heard one ), always looked cool, and his batshit craziness can rival Axl's.But yeah, Axl has more charisma and a more distinctive voice.Yes it's true. Mike is the best example that age is not a problem. He is 45 years old and still very sexy and good looking. but hmm, well, for me Axl didn't had any rivals. He was, is and always will be the best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) Not anymore, but he's got a whole new generation of younger more energetic frontmen to compete withBack in the late 80's, early 90's, he was kingHe does? Could you name even one guy from the 00's that can compete with (old) Axl?He was specifically referring to the current Axl, not "old Axl." So asking him to come up with names for people better than Axl in his prime when he just said that Axl in the '80s and '90s "was king" is a bit pointless.thank youbut I will answer the question, well the version of the question that would make sense "who is a better frontman than Axl today?"Jacob Bannon - Converge Josh Homme - Queens of the Stone Age / Them Crooked Vultures Tom Gabel - Against Me!Greg Puciato - Dillinger Escape PlanAdam Senko - The ArmedCedric Bixler Zavala - The Mars VoltaMike Patton - Faith No More / a ton of other shitThomas Erak - The Fall of TroyFrank Carter - GallowsKeith Buckley - Every Time I DieMaynard James Keenan - Tool / A Perfect Circle Claudio Sanchez - Coheed & Cambriato name a few in my opinionnone of which who could really hold a candle to Axl in the late 80's or early 90's Edited August 5, 2010 by sweetness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrangedfx Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Jacob Bannon - Converge Josh Homme - Queens of the Stone Age / Them Crooked Vultures Tom Gabel - Against Me!Greg Puciato - Dillinger Escape PlanAdam Senko - The ArmedCedric Bixler Zavala - The Mars VoltaMike Patton - Faith No More / a ton of other shitThomas Erak - The Fall of TroyFrank Carter - GallowsKeith Buckley - Every Time I DieMaynard James Keenan - Tool / A Perfect Circle Claudio Sanchez - Coheed & Cambriato name a few in my opinionnone of which who could really hold a candle to Axl in the late 80's or early 90'sUmm.None could hold a candle to Axl in the 80's or 90's?? I'd say that would still apply today, in 2010.These guys mentioned above wish they had half of Axl's vocal abilities.You also have to take into consideration actual songwriting talent.Again, Axl proved with Chinese Democracy he's still got it.And I have all the confidence in the world Ashba was right when he said Axl's got alot of stuff up his sleeve;Things nobody has heard.Not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Jacob Bannon - Converge Josh Homme - Queens of the Stone Age / Them Crooked Vultures Tom Gabel - Against Me!Greg Puciato - Dillinger Escape PlanAdam Senko - The ArmedCedric Bixler Zavala - The Mars VoltaMike Patton - Faith No More / a ton of other shitThomas Erak - The Fall of TroyFrank Carter - GallowsKeith Buckley - Every Time I DieMaynard James Keenan - Tool / A Perfect Circle Claudio Sanchez - Coheed & Cambriato name a few in my opinionnone of which who could really hold a candle to Axl in the late 80's or early 90'sUmm.None could hold a candle to Axl in the 80's or 90's?? I'd say that would still apply today, in 2010.I wouldn'tThese guys mentioned above wish they had half of Axl's vocal abilities.I'll give you this. Axl does have a great voice.You also have to take into consideration actual songwriting talent.Again, Axl proved with Chinese Democracy he's still got it..Azoff disagrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Umm.None could hold a candle to Axl in the 80's or 90's?? I'd say that would still apply today, in 2010.These guys mentioned above wish they had half of Axl's vocal abilities.You also have to take into consideration actual songwriting talent.Again, Axl proved with Chinese Democracy he's still got it.And I have all the confidence in the world Ashba was right when he said Axl's got alot of stuff up his sleeve;Things nobody has heard.Not yet.These guys mentioned above aren't panting between phrases and using the same predictable hand motions throughout their entire setlist. I'm sorry, I love Axl Rose, but he is certainly not the fierce commanding frontman he once was, and that's fine. He's what, 46 years old now? Personally I don't care if he isn't as intense live as he use to be, with age that should be expected. But you better believe that there's guys out there putting on a more energetic show, its just realitySongwriting... now thats a whole other discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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