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Britney Spears is...boring. She's a fairly pretty girl that made her bones on the jailbait thing and now she's just like a kooky soap opera that no one pays attention to. Boring, repetitive, painful to watch.

Also, something occurs to me. What does she actually do for a living? Perform? That is to say dance, sing, wear next to nothing costumes. But ah, she don't sing live apparently because her dance shit is so hectic she has to lip sync. So essentially, she's a singer that ain't singing. So she's a dancer? That don't wear a lot of clothes. It occurs to me you'd get more your moneys worth just going to a titty bar instead, at least they lose all their shit eventually, Britneys shit seems like a serious short change, going to watch this chick dance to a recording of herself singing and looking like she's about to lose her clothes but never really does, thats a fuckin gyp' :lol:

Britneys an exercise is abject marketing. This works, that works, this image is good today, this isn't, take away this, add that, draft this songwriter, this producer, slap some shit on Britneys face and push her out onstage and watch the money role in. It's explotative is that delicious way that only the music industry can truly exploit. Only in Britneys case, no one wins, least of all Britney.

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Britney Spears is...boring. She's a fairly pretty girl that made her bones on the jailbait thing and now she's just like a kooky soap opera that no one pays attention to. Boring, repetitive, painful to watch.

Also, something occurs to me. What does she actually do for a living? Perform? That is to say dance, sing, wear next to nothing costumes. But ah, she don't sing live apparently because her dance shit is so hectic she has to lip sync. So essentially, she's a singer that ain't singing. So she's a dancer? That don't wear a lot of clothes. It occurs to me you'd get more your moneys worth just going to a titty bar instead, at least they lose all their shit eventually, Britneys shit seems like a serious short change, going to watch this chick dance to a recording of herself singing and looking like she's about to lose her clothes but never really does, thats a fuckin gyp' :lol:

Britneys an exercise is abject marketing. This works, that works, this image is good today, this isn't, take away this, add that, draft this songwriter, this producer, slap some shit on Britneys face and push her out onstage and watch the money role in. It's explotative is that delicious way that only the music industry can truly exploit. Only in Britneys case, no one wins, least of all Britney.

lolwat

she's a performer, entertainer

and yes, she can dance better than any chick on the sense out there. she can sing, she just chooses not to

and lmfao at you calling her boring, she is anything but.

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Britney Spears is...boring. She's a fairly pretty girl that made her bones on the jailbait thing and now she's just like a kooky soap opera that no one pays attention to. Boring, repetitive, painful to watch.

Also, something occurs to me. What does she actually do for a living? Perform? That is to say dance, sing, wear next to nothing costumes. But ah, she don't sing live apparently because her dance shit is so hectic she has to lip sync. So essentially, she's a singer that ain't singing. So she's a dancer? That don't wear a lot of clothes. It occurs to me you'd get more your moneys worth just going to a titty bar instead, at least they lose all their shit eventually, Britneys shit seems like a serious short change, going to watch this chick dance to a recording of herself singing and looking like she's about to lose her clothes but never really does, thats a fuckin gyp' :lol:

Britneys an exercise is abject marketing. This works, that works, this image is good today, this isn't, take away this, add that, draft this songwriter, this producer, slap some shit on Britneys face and push her out onstage and watch the money role in. It's explotative is that delicious way that only the music industry can truly exploit. Only in Britneys case, no one wins, least of all Britney.

lolwat

she's a performer, entertainer

and yes, she can dance better than any chick on the sense out there. she can sing, she just chooses not to

and lmfao at you calling her boring, she is anything but.

What do you call a singer who choose not to sing? In that case, i'm Superman, i just choose not to fly. And she's INCREDIBLEY boring, worse than boring, patronising, i mean Jesus, you can just see that some fat sweaty balding 40 something marketing dork came up with her entire schtick in one coke Chivas Regal laden evening in his penthouse suite. What gets me is the ham-fisted-ness of the presentation of it all, there's not even an attempt at subtlety or anything, its just sledgehammer style, Hit Me Baby One More Time, Oops I Did It Again, playing on the whole jailbait thing and that fuckin insipid Lucky song, and then Not A Girl, Not Yet A Woman...do you see what happening here? :lol: You're being sold a serious of progressing stereotypes as this girl grew up and not even clever ones at that. And then oh, we're college age now so lets drag the Neptunes in on the act and we might be able to market a piece of this ass (and thats what you're buying by the way, considering she don't sing) to college aged folk.

This is what i mean by boring, i mean obvious, it's the boner factor thats held up (no pun intended) Witlessneys career all this time, thats it, if it weren't sex that was being sold, the vague progression of "i'm growing up" claptrap wouldn't interest anyone and that almost makes it works.

Sexuality has always been a part of music but it's secondary to actual music, it's a subtext, it can't be ALL that is, thats just boring. To me here entire career has just been this really boring one song to another marketing of jailbait female sexuality to the world, in a really cynical way.

Wasn't this supposed to, somewhere, be about music? Oh i forgot, she doesn't sing...no no, sorry, she CHOOSES not to sing, got'cha. And people wonder why Superman never turns up when there's trouble.

And yes, its exploitative and not just of you and i...have you seen the state of Britney lately? She looks like she don't know which way up a fork goes...bewildered...disembodied...sad. It's all fun and games until they end up like Jacko or Elvis...at least with them they could sing, they had talent, they had voices, they were capable of something, our disposable boil-in-the-bag icons like Britney, what the fucks anyone gonna remember when she's found ass deep in her own vomit, full of fuckin opiates and sparkling white?

Oh yeah, she dressed as a schoolgirl once...cool :unsure:

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Britney Spears is...boring. She's a fairly pretty girl that made her bones on the jailbait thing and now she's just like a kooky soap opera that no one pays attention to. Boring, repetitive, painful to watch.

Also, something occurs to me. What does she actually do for a living? Perform? That is to say dance, sing, wear next to nothing costumes. But ah, she don't sing live apparently because her dance shit is so hectic she has to lip sync. So essentially, she's a singer that ain't singing. So she's a dancer? That don't wear a lot of clothes. It occurs to me you'd get more your moneys worth just going to a titty bar instead, at least they lose all their shit eventually, Britneys shit seems like a serious short change, going to watch this chick dance to a recording of herself singing and looking like she's about to lose her clothes but never really does, thats a fuckin gyp' :lol:

Britneys an exercise is abject marketing. This works, that works, this image is good today, this isn't, take away this, add that, draft this songwriter, this producer, slap some shit on Britneys face and push her out onstage and watch the money role in. It's explotative is that delicious way that only the music industry can truly exploit. Only in Britneys case, no one wins, least of all Britney.

lolwat

she's a performer, entertainer

and yes, she can dance better than any chick on the sense out there. she can sing, she just chooses not to

and lmfao at you calling her boring, she is anything but.

What do you call a singer who choose not to sing? In that case, i'm Superman, i just choose not to fly. And she's INCREDIBLEY boring, worse than boring, patronising, i mean Jesus, you can just see that some fat sweaty balding 40 something marketing dork came up with her entire schtick in one coke Chivas Regal laden evening in his penthouse suite. What gets me is the ham-fisted-ness of the presentation of it all, there's not even an attempt at subtlety or anything, its just sledgehammer style, Hit Me Baby One More Time, Oops I Did It Again, playing on the whole jailbait thing and that fuckin insipid Lucky song, and then Not A Girl, Not Yet A Woman...do you see what happening here? :lol: You're being sold a serious of progressing stereotypes as this girl grew up and not even clever ones at that. And then oh, we're college age now so lets drag the Neptunes in on the act and we might be able to market a piece of this ass (and thats what you're buying by the way, considering she don't sing) to college aged folk.

This is what i mean by boring, i mean obvious, it's the boner factor thats held up (no pun intended) Witlessneys career all this time, thats it, if it weren't sex that was being sold, the vague progression of "i'm growing up" claptrap wouldn't interest anyone and that almost makes it works.

Sexuality has always been a part of music but it's secondary to actual music, it's a subtext, it can't be ALL that is, thats just boring. To me here entire career has just been this really boring one song to another marketing of jailbait female sexuality to the world, in a really cynical way.

Wasn't this supposed to, somewhere, be about music? Oh i forgot, she doesn't sing...no no, sorry, she CHOOSES not to sing, got'cha. And people wonder why Superman never turns up when there's trouble.

you wrote all that on an artist you don't even like?

you can have your opinion, it will never matter.

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Britney Spears is...boring. She's a fairly pretty girl that made her bones on the jailbait thing and now she's just like a kooky soap opera that no one pays attention to. Boring, repetitive, painful to watch.

Also, something occurs to me. What does she actually do for a living? Perform? That is to say dance, sing, wear next to nothing costumes. But ah, she don't sing live apparently because her dance shit is so hectic she has to lip sync. So essentially, she's a singer that ain't singing. So she's a dancer? That don't wear a lot of clothes. It occurs to me you'd get more your moneys worth just going to a titty bar instead, at least they lose all their shit eventually, Britneys shit seems like a serious short change, going to watch this chick dance to a recording of herself singing and looking like she's about to lose her clothes but never really does, thats a fuckin gyp' :lol:

Britneys an exercise is abject marketing. This works, that works, this image is good today, this isn't, take away this, add that, draft this songwriter, this producer, slap some shit on Britneys face and push her out onstage and watch the money role in. It's explotative is that delicious way that only the music industry can truly exploit. Only in Britneys case, no one wins, least of all Britney.

lolwat

she's a performer, entertainer

and yes, she can dance better than any chick on the sense out there. she can sing, she just chooses not to

and lmfao at you calling her boring, she is anything but.

What do you call a singer who choose not to sing? In that case, i'm Superman, i just choose not to fly. And she's INCREDIBLEY boring, worse than boring, patronising, i mean Jesus, you can just see that some fat sweaty balding 40 something marketing dork came up with her entire schtick in one coke Chivas Regal laden evening in his penthouse suite. What gets me is the ham-fisted-ness of the presentation of it all, there's not even an attempt at subtlety or anything, its just sledgehammer style, Hit Me Baby One More Time, Oops I Did It Again, playing on the whole jailbait thing and that fuckin insipid Lucky song, and then Not A Girl, Not Yet A Woman...do you see what happening here? :lol: You're being sold a serious of progressing stereotypes as this girl grew up and not even clever ones at that. And then oh, we're college age now so lets drag the Neptunes in on the act and we might be able to market a piece of this ass (and thats what you're buying by the way, considering she don't sing) to college aged folk.

This is what i mean by boring, i mean obvious, it's the boner factor thats held up (no pun intended) Witlessneys career all this time, thats it, if it weren't sex that was being sold, the vague progression of "i'm growing up" claptrap wouldn't interest anyone and that almost makes it works.

Sexuality has always been a part of music but it's secondary to actual music, it's a subtext, it can't be ALL that is, thats just boring. To me here entire career has just been this really boring one song to another marketing of jailbait female sexuality to the world, in a really cynical way.

Wasn't this supposed to, somewhere, be about music? Oh i forgot, she doesn't sing...no no, sorry, she CHOOSES not to sing, got'cha. And people wonder why Superman never turns up when there's trouble.

you wrote all that on an artist you don't even like?

you can have your opinion, it will never matter.

Sweetie, 5 paragraphs, hardly a masters thesis. You're getting kinda touchy here, what is she, your fucking mother? Its a music forum, people disagree sometimes, no big deal, it's not a slur on your character that i think the music you like is shit, dear. My opinion will never matter? Is that to you or Britney or...? I suppose to matter you'd have to be able to read it all and judging by your shock at my ability to write 5 paragraphs, you're a long way from being able to make those sortsa judgements ;)

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you wrote all that on an artist you don't even like?

you can have your opinion, it will never matter.

He's got a knack for words and doesn't much appreciate brevity.

I wouldn't take it into offense. :thumbsup:

Translation: He goes on a bit :lol:

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you wrote all that on an artist you don't even like?

you can have your opinion, it will never matter.

He's got a knack for words and doesn't much appreciate brevity.

I wouldn't take it into offense. :thumbsup:

Translation: He goes on a bit :lol:

a bit? i got lost during the first few lines......

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you wrote all that on an artist you don't even like?

you can have your opinion, it will never matter.

He's got a knack for words and doesn't much appreciate brevity.

I wouldn't take it into offense. :thumbsup:

Translation: He goes on a bit :lol:

a bit? i got lost during the first few lines......

didn't leave a trail of crumbs?

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Only in Britneys case, no one wins, least of all Britney.

What do you mean no one wins? How about the record labels that profited from the millions upon millions of records sold, music tv stations, gossip magazines and tabloids, youth culture magazines, websites, blogs that comment on celebrities' lives, 'celeb'-oriented porn sites, products she endorsed in commercials, all the people that got jobs cuz she toured. And the actual fans, who see her as a symbol. Which she is, I guess, symbolizing a social phenomenon - it's okay to sell your sexuality while still a teen. Ok, not something to be very proud of, but the impact was there. Besides how many idols/symbols actually live up to the legend in the way they lead their lives and careers.

Only people who lost are those that genuinely care about how music is perceived when perceived critically, the ones that want, no, DEMAND, for music to be an art. And nobody cares about you guys anyway. :D

I may be biased because I use Mac and iPhone, but it's a bit asshole-ish to hate a product just because its successful while catering to a target that isn't you.

Wasn't this supposed to, somewhere, be about music?

No. Never was.

That said, every song of hers (I can thing of right now) is very annoying.

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What do you mean no one wins? How about the record labels that profited from the millions upon millions of records sold, music tv stations, gossip magazines and tabloids, youth culture magazines, websites, blogs that comment on celebrities' lives, 'celeb'-oriented porn sites, products she endorsed in commercials

A corporate entity and a human being are two different things and also, i'm not sure whether money is the be all and end all yardstick of the concept success, especially in terms of music.

all the people that got jobs cuz she toured

That's a fair point i must say although if they can get a job there i'm sure they wouldn't've starved to death without it.

it's okay to sell your sexuality while still a teen. Ok, not something to be very proud of, but the impact was there.

Right but it's the nature of that impact and the resultant positive effect, or lack thereof that i'm addressing.

Only people who lost are those that genuinely care about how music is perceived when perceived critically, the ones that want, no, DEMAND, for music to be an art. And nobody cares about you guys anyway.

I think everybody that cares to attach themselves through it loses, the only people that win are the ones that don't give a shit either way. The only thing that's won is the corporations, the suits, they're the winners here because they've proved a point to themselves as well as made a bundle of cash, their raison d'etre in the first place. They proven that people can be compartmentalised and spoonfed and encouraged to not think or behave or act outside of the box and they will lap it up every single time and THAT, that is close to tragic.

I may be biased because I use Mac and iPhone, but it's a bit asshole-ish to hate a product just because its successful while catering to a target that isn't you.

I don't hate Britney, i just think she's shit. Least of all for being successful, in fact, success is probably the only thing i applaud her for, it's just that i don't think it's gotten her anywhere worth being nor has it gotten music to any place worth being.

The basic message your proliferating is actually quite disturbing, this concept that no one cares about music as an art, well excuse me but some people do and this kinda, oh shut up, nobody cares attitude to me is just basically saying, y'know, shut up, don't think for yourself, "don't hate", loosen up, get the stick out of ur ass, listen to Britney Spears, its good music, honestly, buy these products etc etc etc well y'know what, fuck that shit, i got a brain of my own from somewhere, i dunno how it got there but i intend to use it and part of the stipulations of my using it is i'm gonna come to my own conclusions about shit and i refuse, yes, refuse to let the corporate mafia/establishment dictate to me what is or isn't good to my eyes cuz i can see for myself.

And also, the fact that people like yourself think you can ridicule others into being like you with that "nobody cares about you guys anyway" crap is just so 4th grade, honestly, it's really funny, thats the second time i've heard that in this thread and both from people ostensibly sticking up for Britney (even though she's not being expressly attacked here) and its symptomatic of this mentality like ahhhh, fuck it maannn, why carreee, lets all drink Pepsi and twiddle our eyephones and go to starbucks with laptops and facebook and pretend we're all really cool cuz hey, the bandwagons in town, if we don't jump on we're gonna get left behind.

And you're the type of person who doesn't care about what people who consider music as art think? :rofl-lol: That's funny because everyone i know of that thinks of music as an art form worthy of preserving'd be reaching for the razors if they woke up one morning and found they were you so the door swings both ways ;)

I don't TRY to make music an art form, it IS an art form and, put simply, there are some people that care about a little more about an adolescent wank and a pocketful of cash, not many but they're out there and they have and will make a difference, for every fuckin Britney Spears there's a Black Flag, for every Justin Timberlake there's a John Coltrane, for every fuckin whoever there's a Charlie Parker, a Muddy Waters, a Jimi Hendrix showing us that there's some serious bedding underneath the fluff. To me, it's those people that make life worth living. For every mealey mouthed spineless mindless cocksucker that just rolls over and gets told how to dress, what to say, what to sing, what to believe there's a bunch of motherfuckers out there that lay it down and be themselves because, well, thats all they can be. and what price on that? Gimme a value on a human beings identity...as a matter of interest, what about you, how much would it take for you to sell yourself up the river for a buck? And that's a serious question too, i'd like to know. I mean thats success right, money? Name your price.

People care, this is my contention, people care because every so often someone comes along...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8szRgIcYlY&feature=related

And suddenly there's a whole bunch of people there, in your face, people that get it, people that care that you never noticed cuz, well, you didn't care.

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Hit Me Baby One More Time was the most important song and video since Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit. It was a once in a generation type anthem that perfectly captured the sense of entitlement that permeates our culture.

OMFG OMFG OMFG

BOW TO YU!!!!

your my new favorite member! you speak the truth!

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Hit Me Baby One More Time was the most important song and video since Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit. It was a once in a generation type anthem that perfectly captured the sense of entitlement that permeates our culture.

OMFG OMFG OMFG

BOW TO YU!!!!

your my new favorite member! you speak the truth!

:rofl-lol: You don't have the first clue what he said, do you? Tell me, what do you think a sense of entitlement is and what exactly about the fact that a sense of entitlement is permeating our culture is a good thing? :lol:

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Hit Me Baby One More Time was the most important song and video since Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit. It was a once in a generation type anthem that perfectly captured the sense of entitlement that permeates our culture.

OMFG OMFG OMFG

BOW TO YU!!!!

your my new favorite member! you speak the truth!

:rofl-lol: You don't have the first clue what he said, do you? Tell me, what do you think a sense of entitlement is and what exactly about the fact that a sense of entitlement is permeating our culture is a good thing? :lol:

it doesn't have to be a good thing.

baby one more time influenced a generation of people, and so has britney herself

again i ask, why do you write essays about people who you think are shit?

lyke seriously

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it doesn't have to be a good thing.

Oh, sorry, i thought maybe it was when you started gushing over how amazing the poster was for having made the post. It doesn't hafta be a good thing, admit it, you didn't understand a word and now you look stupid.

baby one more time influenced a generation of people, and so has britney herself

So did Josef Stalin, whats your point?

again i ask, why do you write essays about people who you think are shit?

To explain why...and the shitter they are the longer the essay is ;) Same reason i'd write about someone i like, to explain why. Let me know when this shit gets too complicated for you.

And Giventofly, here ya are, here ya have it, the resultant product of a culture that no longer cares about artistry in their music, the shut up and join in generation, you're welcome it cochise, lyke, seriously :rolleyes:

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Call me fucked up but I still find Spears hot as hell.

I get this crazy sexual vibe off her, like she'd be a psycho in the sack

Felt that way since the Slave 4 U vid dropped. Man that was a great mtv premiere. Never seen a hotter vid in my life.

We were like "so that's what's under the school girl outfit"

Insane body.

I hated Justin Timberlake with a passion

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Call me fucked up but I still find Spears hot as hell.

I get this crazy sexual vibe off her, like she'd be a psycho in the sack

Felt that way since the Slave 4 U vid dropped. Man that was a great mtv premiere. Never seen a hotter vid in my life.

We were like "so that's what's under the school girl outfit"

Insane body.

Did you check out that motherfucker that pulled a case on her, her fuckin bodyguard or fuckin tea boy or whatever? For sexual harrassment? Sexual what motherfucker?!?!! "she lay on the bed suggestively fondling herself, i couldn't stop thinking about my poor kids" *bangs his head against the wall* Boy what the fuck is wrong with you?!?!?! What in the fuck is happening to this fuckin world, Britney Spears, butt-booty nekkid, on a fuckin bed, doing the fishstick thang and this fuckin morons "harassed", man splash some fuckin water over your face and go harass that pussy before every man on this planet chips in to have you sent back to the fuckin boy scouts, what the fuck is wrong with this dude? Harrassment, i can't believe my fuckin eyes when i read that shit :lol:

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That's heart breaking to hear, did not know that.

Just looked it up ""repeated unwanted sexual advances" toward him, summoned him to her room "for no other purpose" than to expose her naked body and engaged in sex acts in his presence"

That sounds like it would be the greatest day of my life.

See Spears is a nymph, I respect that.

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