What's missing guitar wise

[Vincent Vega]

There's been something missing guitar wise--ever since AFD--An interplay of the guitars.

On AFD, Izzy and Slash's parts was very clear, and it was who was playing what, and both traded off little licks, riffs, counter riffs and melodies and counter melodies together, so it created a sort of groove. A sort of interplay of the two guitars, creating a very intricate, yet very well defined sound. On every record since, though--Including the UYIs, and Chinese D, that sort of fun interplay of two (and in CD's case, three) guitarists is missing. Sure, they showcase their different styles--But never really together in one track, never riffing and jiving together, and I think that's a big thing missing in GN'R's sound since AFD.

Off topic, but AFD's sound--or maybe it's just the guitars-- kind of reminds me of Judas Priest mixed with Aerosmith and the Stones.

Edited October 24, 2010 by Indigo Child

[Graeme]

If you watch the current live show, the three play off each other very well, I agree in some instances that this element is lacking on CD cause the parts were all recorded at different times, but the band as is now trade riffs and solos like no one's business. On the CD stuff and the older material, I reckon if we got a new album just written as is by the band, it would have that element you miss all over it.

[moreblack]

Depends what the song calls for, on the new albums there's good interplay on stuff like Catcher and Madagascar...

[wasted]

On CD all the instruments are interplaying but I know what you mean on afd. They kind of lost that on uyi.

I was listening kiss albums and drums reminded me of cd

[Nintari]

Speaking about the drums on CD, anyone else think they're WAY too far behind in the final mix? Some songs, they're ok but others they seem almost buried behind everything else. It really bugs me.

[FuddMckagan]

Speaking about the drums on CD, anyone else think they're WAY too far behind in the final mix? Some songs, they're ok but others they seem almost buried behind everything else. It really bugs me.

I've noticed that too. The drums are there, but you don't notice them at all unless you're really trying to.

[wasted]

True you might not notice them. Twat is definitely worth closer listen drums. And the piano in catcher is great. But even when drums are mind blowing they are ticking along very tastefully, none of that uyi plod.

[sascha]

It's not the guitars, it's the drums. There's up to three drummers plus synth and plugins for one song alone, it's like driving on four different tires, it will work but it won't feel right.

As for the live sound, Richard and Robin clicked, but right now only the rhythm section is tight. Ron's sound is too compressed and DJ's is too mellow, not much tonal interaction possible even if they try.

[Jakey Styley]

Songs on CD arent rly meant for interplay and all that, besides a few.

[ITW 2012]

The ancient art of tapestry weaving as Keef might say. CD is more about an overall mix. The orchestral arrangements are just as important as the guitar bits.

[8-ball]

Izzy... that interplay between guitars that you hear....it's all Izzy when he left it went with him

[vintage]

a oggod solo!!

And a food aimple rhythem and kead guitar

[chinese stew]

soul.