Chinese Destruction Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/11/exclusive-court-documents-axl-rose-suing-guitar-hero-makersAxl Rose is suing Activision Blizzard Inc, the owner of the hit video game Guitar Hero, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned. Axl is suing the company for over $20 million dollars for fraud, breach of contract and unjust enrichment, among others claims.http://www.radaronline.com/sites/radaronline.com/files/Axl%20Suit.pdfIn the court filing, Rose sates that he is the majority owner of the trademarks and licensing associated with the band.Axl has an issue with Guitar Hero III using "Welcome To The Jungle" without his permission.In the legal documents, Rose states, that there was an agreement to use the song for Guitar Hero III, but "Activision breached the contract when it released GH III which prominently features Slash imagery in direct connection with the use of "Welcome to the Jungle," exploits the prior association between Slash and Guns N' Roses, promotes Slash's and VR's (Velvet Revolver) separate interests and includes VR tracks as available downloads, all of which was and is directly contrary to the contractual obligations of Defendants."Rose is seeking at least $20 million dollars in damages, punitive damages and other associated costs. Edited November 23, 2010 by Chinese Destruction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdlove Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 He said he would do it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 About time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyrie Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I remember Axl saying something about this at some point. I could be wrong, but I swear this isn't exactly news... like it was mentioned before somewhere. GN'R should stick with Rock Band anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuddMckagan Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Oh god. I thought he was pissed because he wasn't told that it would be in the game?Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Oh no, more sues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 That's not exactly a flattering picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 He's a busy man in the court room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Funds must've run dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I actually just read the article now, this sounds like it's going to get messy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 im sorry i'm a bad english-speaker ... so why is he really pissed off ? because they use slash image in WTTJ or what ? help me please.haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 The Car crash continues....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuddMckagan Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) $20 million is a tad excessive I think. And suing because there are VR songs in the game? Can you even do that?Yeesh, he must be a bit low on money to have to pull this out now. Edited November 23, 2010 by FuddMckagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) Its all lawyers anyway Axl will likely never have to actually be there, relax! Kudos once again to Axl for standing for what is right! I agree with this lawsuit, it's one thing for certain people to use music but to sell it with Slash and a GN'R tune mass marketing? No way Good luck Axl hope this works out, you have a right to protect your music.once again some of you think its about money when it is not, it is about principle. In case you don't know Axl has money, lot's of it Edited November 23, 2010 by gunsguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Feel like the dude should seriously spend less time in the courts and more time in the studio, but that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonker88 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 That's the budget for the next album sorted.Fair play, they breached the contract, Axl's perfectly within his rights to go after them. I see this as karma for what Activision did to the Infinity Ward employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bax Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Legally, Axl may be 100% in the right. This still makes him look like an asshole though. Slash is always going tom be associated with WTTJ, and Guitar Hero was smart enough to know that practically no one would be waiting in line to play as DJ Ashba. Telling them they can't offer VR tracks as downloads makes him look even worse, as if he's afraid of the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) Legally, Axl may be 100% in the right. This still makes him look like an asshole though. Slash is always going tom be associated with WTTJ, and Guitar Hero was smart enough to know that practically no one would be waiting in line to play as DJ Ashba. Telling them they can't offer VR tracks as downloads makes him look even worse, as if he's afraid of the competition.Yeah, pretty much. It's the fact that he singles out the whole Slash-imagery thing that makes it seem like sour grapes more than a case of real legal concern. You can't really control pop culture - no matter how long it's been since he was in the band, that's always the band Slash is gonna be known for to most people, and it just seems silly to me to attack that. Edited November 23, 2010 by Estranged Reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 It's like, in the 90s everybody and their dog supposedly was suing GNR, now he wants to do the opposite, just sue everybody that even remotely looks at him sideways.But if the issue is with the association the game had with Slash and the use of Slash in conjunction with the GNR track, why not sue Slash himself? Could it be because Slash has the right to profit from his own work, and if so, how valid is the case?Somebody with lawyeration skills/experience must know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Somebody with lawyeration skills/experience must know...Highvoltage to thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinese Destruction Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Oh no, more sues!Well Axl's move to sue Rock Band could possibly indicate that the Irving Azoff case is progressing well for camp GN'R. Obviously Axl's legal team are quite confident in terms of the Azoff saga otherwise they wouldn't pursuing this (just yet). The case outlined by Axl's legal team is spot on and perfectly legitimate. Hopefully it's a relatively quick process, I can't imagine Rock Band have many grounds to oppose Axl's argument, it would appear they (Rock Band), just sort of recklessly jumped into the deal without considering that there'd been a lengthy struggle for control of the GN'R brand beforehand (and therefore the victor wasn't going to allow any other party to flog an association with the concept). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Blizzard makes Warcraft right? these guys must have money to burn with Cataclysm coming next month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Just read it, Axl's 100% in the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Legally, Axl may be 100% in the right. This still makes him look like an asshole though. Slash is always going tom be associated with WTTJ, and Guitar Hero was smart enough to know that practically no one would be waiting in line to play as DJ Ashba. Telling them they can't offer VR tracks as downloads makes him look even worse, as if he's afraid of the competition.Yeah, pretty much. It's the fact that he singles out the whole Slash-imagery thing that makes it seem like sour grapes more than a case of real legal concern. You can't really control pop culture - no matter how long it's been since he was in the band, that's always the band Slash is gonna be known for to most people, and it just seems silly to me to attack that.Slash LEFT the band on his own, now he is trying to cash in on it? How is that ok? I fail to see how you think it is ok at all. In fact Slash is the first one in recent memory to NOT discuss Guns in interviews, so as long as he can use it to make money it's ok then? That is the problem, either distance yourself or embrace it by getting the rights to use the song, you can't have it both ways.It is wrong, Slash knew it, and the makers of the game knew they did not have the rights issue figured out and decided to release it anyway. They honestly don't give a fuck is the message here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Makes him seem desperate,broke, and like he came up with the wttj riff actual song arrangements. Fair play if he's in the right, but could turn out to bite him in his huge ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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