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The Rock Hall ceremony will be back in Cleveland in 2012 and @gunsnroses are the only newly eligible act that will get in right away.

Of course they will, they were/are (one of) the greatest rock band ever :xmasssanta:

'were' and deserve a place in the Hall of Fame based on past achievements.

Only Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler need show up, as they made the music that got the name Guns N'Roses into the Hall of Fame.

..the hired hands need not show :xmassrudolph:

Lol will Steven Addled be bringing Dr. Drew with him?

Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven is so 1987.

Now, if you want to talk lineups, Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Dizzy is where it's at.

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They won't be there if they are not invited by the MAN.

It's not up to Axl who gets inducted.

Much like Alice Cooper, where the AC being inducted is not just old man Vince, it's the band Alice, Michael Bruce, Glen Buxton, Neil Smith and Dennis Dunaway. Anyone that came thru Alice's solo band, like Al Pitrelli, Eric Singer or Ryan Roxie won't get inducted.

Please explain James from Metallica personally inviting Mustaine?

Mustaine turned it down, because he wasn't going to be inducted. He is not on any Metallica albums.

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They won't be there if they are not invited by the MAN.

It's not up to Axl who gets inducted.

Much like Alice Cooper, where the AC being inducted is not just old man Vince, it's the band Alice, Michael Bruce, Glen Buxton, Neil Smith and Dennis Dunaway. Anyone that came thru Alice's solo band, like Al Pitrelli, Eric Singer or Ryan Roxie won't get inducted.

Please explain James from Metallica personally inviting Mustaine?

Mustaine turned it down, because he wasn't going to be inducted. He is not on any Metallica albums.

Now you are just making up shit on the go. He didn't go because he was doing the Preist Fest at the time.

"But I turned it down partly because I'm on tour and partly because if I'm going to be there, I would like to be inducted along with them. I don't want to go there just as an invited guest. You know, anyone can be invited to these things."

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=117464

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"Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists’ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.

The Foundation’s nominating committee, composed of rock and roll historians, selects nominees each year in the Performer category. Ballots are then sent to an international voting body of more than 500 rock experts. Those performers who receive the highest number of votes - and more than 50 percent of the vote - are inducted. The Foundation generally inducts five to seven performers each year."

http://rockhall.com/inductees/induction-process/

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When exactly seperates a "hired gun" and a band member? You have to be an original member, but when does that start? At initial creation? When u play you first live gig at a bar? When u sign to a record label? When u put out an ep? An album? So if Band X puts out their debut album, then their guitar player quits, and the new guitar player is on the band's next ten albums......is he still a "hired hand" because he didn't play on the original album?

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People just use that phrase as a way to try and insult the new band. It's pretty pathetic.

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The Rock Hall ceremony will be back in Cleveland in 2012 and @gunsnroses are the only newly eligible act that will get in right away.

Of course they will, they were/are (one of) the greatest rock band ever :xmasssanta:

'were' and deserve a place in the Hall of Fame based on past achievements.

Only Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler need show up, as they made the music that got the name Guns N'Roses into the Hall of Fame.

..the hired hands need not show :xmassrudolph:

Lol will Steven Addled be bringing Dr. Drew with him?

Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven is so 1987.

Now, if you want to talk lineups, Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Dizzy is where it's at.

Matt Sorum was a hired hand. Matt Sorum marked the begining of the end of Guns N'Roses.

The moment Sorum joined and Adler left (fired) a little piece of Guns N'Roses died. There was something missing (live) from the drumming.

Gilby Clarke was a hired hand. The moment Izzy quit, another little piece of Guns N'Roses died.

The moment Slash quit, a massive part of the Guns N'Roses sound was lost.

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Honestly at this point GNR should not even get inducted. Axl and $la$h should get inducted seperately as 2 entities.

both will happen probably. After all, people like Clapton, Beck and Page are in there multiple times...

That's because were inducted for work on the Yardbirds,and their solo projects. Slash may get in again for his work on Velvet Revolver and his solo stuff.On the other hand, Axl will only get inducted for his work on Guns 'N Roses.

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The Rock Hall ceremony will be back in Cleveland in 2012 and @gunsnroses are the only newly eligible act that will get in right away.

Of course they will, they were/are (one of) the greatest rock band ever :xmasssanta:

'were' and deserve a place in the Hall of Fame based on past achievements.

Only Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler need show up, as they made the music that got the name Guns N'Roses into the Hall of Fame.

..the hired hands need not show :xmassrudolph:

Lol will Steven Addled be bringing Dr. Drew with him?

Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven is so 1987.

Now, if you want to talk lineups, Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Dizzy is where it's at.

Matt Sorum was a hired hand. Matt Sorum marked the begining of the end of Guns N'Roses.

The moment Sorum joined and Adler left (fired) a little piece of Guns N'Roses died. There was something missing (live) from the drumming.

Gilby Clarke was a hired hand. The moment Izzy quit, another little piece of Guns N'Roses died.

The moment Slash quit, a massive part of the Guns N'Roses sound was lost.

Lol. Steven Addled is so overrated. I'd prefer a member who doesn't cry over 1990 and still look like it's still 1987 and who doesn't blow for blow. Like I said, if the reunion happens, is Dr. Drew going to be opening for them just in case Stevey fucks up yet again?

Sorum was and is a much better drummer. Popcorn boy was just a generic late '80s Hair Band drummer. If Steven is so great, why didn't Slash invite him to play in VR or be just THE drummer on his solo album?

I'll take 1991 Guns N' Roses over 1987 Guns.

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When exactly seperates a "hired gun" and a band member? You have to be an original member, but when does that start? At initial creation? When u play you first live gig at a bar? When u sign to a record label? When u put out an ep? An album? So if Band X puts out their debut album, then their guitar player quits, and the new guitar player is on the band's next ten albums......is he still a "hired hand" because he didn't play on the original album?

it's pretty obvious, and mostly common sense. Dizzy and Matt may be borderline, but on the whole I think we all know who is getting in. The people on the albums.

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When exactly seperates a "hired gun" and a band member? You have to be an original member, but when does that start? At initial creation? When u play you first live gig at a bar? When u sign to a record label? When u put out an ep? An album? So if Band X puts out their debut album, then their guitar player quits, and the new guitar player is on the band's next ten albums......is he still a "hired hand" because he didn't play on the original album?

it's pretty obvious, and mostly common sense. Dizzy and Matt may be borderline, but on the whole I think we all know who is getting in. The people on the albums.

Which include Matt, Dizzy, Gilby and all of the CD members. :xmasssanta:

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The Rock Hall ceremony will be back in Cleveland in 2012 and @gunsnroses are the only newly eligible act that will get in right away.

Of course they will, they were/are (one of) the greatest rock band ever :xmasssanta:

'were' and deserve a place in the Hall of Fame based on past achievements.

Only Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Adler need show up, as they made the music that got the name Guns N'Roses into the Hall of Fame.

..the hired hands need not show :xmassrudolph:

Lol will Steven Addled be bringing Dr. Drew with him?

Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven is so 1987.

Now, if you want to talk lineups, Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Dizzy is where it's at.

Matt Sorum was a hired hand. Matt Sorum marked the begining of the end of Guns N'Roses.

The moment Sorum joined and Adler left (fired) a little piece of Guns N'Roses died. There was something missing (live) from the drumming.

Gilby Clarke was a hired hand. The moment Izzy quit, another little piece of Guns N'Roses died.

The moment Slash quit, a massive part of the Guns N'Roses sound was lost.

I think the moment Izzy left was the beginning of the end, I really don't think anyone, fans or the band gave a shit about Steven Adler. I know when he was kicked out it was thought of as "really, they kicked him out?? Oh whatever who cares, they'll get someone else to kick the drums" And as far as the band went, nobody stuck up for Steven then, and no ones done it since. Izzy on the other hand was a main songwriter, the reason Axl came to LA (or one of the reasons) and even though went thru his own addictions always seemed to be the level headed, reasonable member of the band, but hey, not arguing, just my opiniun.

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When exactly seperates a "hired gun" and a band member? You have to be an original member, but when does that start? At initial creation? When u play you first live gig at a bar? When u sign to a record label? When u put out an ep? An album? So if Band X puts out their debut album, then their guitar player quits, and the new guitar player is on the band's next ten albums......is he still a "hired hand" because he didn't play on the original album?

it's pretty obvious, and mostly common sense. Dizzy and Matt may be borderline, but on the whole I think we all know who is getting in. The people on the albums.

Which include Matt, Dizzy, Gilby and all of the CD members. :xmasssanta:

I should've said the big cds from their peak era.

not necessarily the ChinDemo members, it will be the lineup from the era with the most impact and influence.

In the case of the Allman Brothers Band it was only the Duane Allman, Gregg Allman, Dickey Betts, Jai Johanny Johanson, Berry Oakley and Butch Trucks lineup that got in. Same with The Who, only Daltrey, Townshend, Entwistle and Moon are in, no trace of Kenney Jones, Doug Sandom or any of the other post "Who Are You" guys...

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When exactly seperates a "hired gun" and a band member? You have to be an original member, but when does that start? At initial creation? When u play you first live gig at a bar? When u sign to a record label? When u put out an ep? An album? So if Band X puts out their debut album, then their guitar player quits, and the new guitar player is on the band's next ten albums......is he still a "hired hand" because he didn't play on the original album?

it's pretty obvious, and mostly common sense. Dizzy and Matt may be borderline, but on the whole I think we all know who is getting in. The people on the albums.

Which include Matt, Dizzy, Gilby and all of the CD members. :xmasssanta:

I should've said the big cds from their peak era.

not necessarily the ChinDemo members, it will be the lineup from the era with the most impact and influence.

In the case of the Allman Brothers Band it was only the Duane Allman, Gregg Allman, Dickey Betts, Jai Johanny Johanson, Berry Oakley and Butch Trucks lineup that got in. Same with The Who, only Daltrey, Townshend, Entwistle and Moon are in, no trace of Kenney Jones, Doug Sandom or any of the other post "Who Are You" guys...

Then Matt, Dizzy (as much as you Slashites hate him!! :xmasssanta: ) and perhaps even Gilby will probably be there, since 1991-1993 WAS their peak era.

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When exactly seperates a "hired gun" and a band member? You have to be an original member, but when does that start? At initial creation? When u play you first live gig at a bar? When u sign to a record label? When u put out an ep? An album? So if Band X puts out their debut album, then their guitar player quits, and the new guitar player is on the band's next ten albums......is he still a "hired hand" because he didn't play on the original album?

it's pretty obvious, and mostly common sense. Dizzy and Matt may be borderline, but on the whole I think we all know who is getting in. The people on the albums.

Which include Matt, Dizzy, Gilby and all of the CD members. :xmasssanta:

I should've said the big cds from their peak era.

not necessarily the ChinDemo members, it will be the lineup from the era with the most impact and influence.

In the case of the Allman Brothers Band it was only the Duane Allman, Gregg Allman, Dickey Betts, Jai Johanny Johanson, Berry Oakley and Butch Trucks lineup that got in. Same with The Who, only Daltrey, Townshend, Entwistle and Moon are in, no trace of Kenney Jones, Doug Sandom or any of the other post "Who Are You" guys...

Then Matt, Dizzy (as much as you Slashites hate him!! :xmasssanta: ) and perhaps even Gilby will probably be there, since 1991-1993 WAS their peak era.

Dunno about Gilby, he's not on any original work, only on the covers album, and he never wrote a song with them.

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Lol. Steven Addled is so overrated.

Not according to Slash, Izzy and Duff who have stated how important Steven was to their sound and groove in interviews over the years..........

That's why Slash and Duff brought him into VR and Slash had him on every single song of his solo record :rolleyes:

Saying nice things about a guy is one thing, but since 1990 no one has worked with him on a consistent basis or invited him into anything permanent. Even Izzy was invited into VR, but Izzy declined.

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Lol. Steven Addled is so overrated.

Not according to Slash, Izzy and Duff who have stated how important Steven was to their sound and groove in interviews over the years..........

That's why Slash and Duff brought him into VR and Slash had him on every single song of his solo record :rolleyes:

Saying nice things about a guy is one thing, but since 1990 no one has worked with him on a consistent basis or invited him into anything permanent. Even Izzy was invited into VR, but Izzy declined.

Slash and duff don't have to bring him into velvet revolver to prove that he was a great member in gnr. Neither has anything to do with eachother

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Lol. Steven Addled is so overrated.

Not according to Slash, Izzy and Duff who have stated how important Steven was to their sound and groove in interviews over the years..........

That's why Slash and Duff brought him into VR and Slash had him on every single song of his solo record :rolleyes:

Saying nice things about a guy is one thing, but since 1990 no one has worked with him on a consistent basis or invited him into anything permanent. Even Izzy was invited into VR, but Izzy declined.

They were talking about the AFD era Steven not the trainwreck post 1991 Steven...big difference............the AFD era Steven was underrated IMHO the current Steven may be overrated a this point in his carrer....

The point is, Steven post 1990 has been trash.

Matt is and was in 1990 the better drummer. He's also not got a weak personality like Steven. You don't see Matt sobbing all over the TV.

Lol. Steven Addled is so overrated.

Not according to Slash, Izzy and Duff who have stated how important Steven was to their sound and groove in interviews over the years..........

That's why Slash and Duff brought him into VR and Slash had him on every single song of his solo record :rolleyes:

Saying nice things about a guy is one thing, but since 1990 no one has worked with him on a consistent basis or invited him into anything permanent. Even Izzy was invited into VR, but Izzy declined.

Slash and duff don't have to bring him into velvet revolver to prove that he was a great member in gnr. Neither has anything to do with eachother

Even in GN'R he was overrated. He's got the same sound that every 80's Hair Metal drummer had.

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Lol. Steven Addled is so overrated.

Not according to Slash, Izzy and Duff who have stated how important Steven was to their sound and groove in interviews over the years..........

That's why Slash and Duff brought him into VR and Slash had him on every single song of his solo record :rolleyes:

Saying nice things about a guy is one thing, but since 1990 no one has worked with him on a consistent basis or invited him into anything permanent. Even Izzy was invited into VR, but Izzy declined.

They were talking about the AFD era Steven not the trainwreck post 1991 Steven...big difference............the AFD era Steven was underrated IMHO the current Steven may be overrated a this point in his carrer....

The point is, Steven post 1990 has been trash.

Matt is and was in 1990 the better drummer. He's also not got a weak personality like Steven. You don't see Matt sobbing all over the TV.

Lol. Steven Addled is so overrated.

Not according to Slash, Izzy and Duff who have stated how important Steven was to their sound and groove in interviews over the years..........

That's why Slash and Duff brought him into VR and Slash had him on every single song of his solo record :rolleyes:

Saying nice things about a guy is one thing, but since 1990 no one has worked with him on a consistent basis or invited him into anything permanent. Even Izzy was invited into VR, but Izzy declined.

Slash and duff don't have to bring him into velvet revolver to prove that he was a great member in gnr. Neither has anything to do with eachother

Even in GN'R he was overrated. He's got the same sound that every 80's Hair Metal drummer had.

Not according to the vast majority of gnr fans. Steven was thought of to have a light and energetic style to his playing. A lot of people actually consider matts drum sound to be a big flaw on the illusion albums. He is technically better, but that doesn't automatically translate to being a better fit within the band

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