ptsondr Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/videogaga/64353/real-turkeys-the-worst-videos-of-all-time/GUNS N' ROSES - "ESTRANGED"When GNR first hit MTV in 1987, they were the antithesis of big-haired bubbleglam bands like Poison, Europe, and the aforementioned Warrant. But their sound soon bloated along with their egos, and by the time they released the bombastic and self-indulgent Use Your Illusion two-volume set, they'd become the polar opposite of the lean, mean, rock 'n' roll machine they once were. Their cast-of-thousands "November Rain" video, with its Stephanie Seymour wedding scene and jillion-piece orchestra, or "Don't Cry," with its pointless cliff-jumping car stunts and unexplained Shannon Hoon cameo, were OTT enough. But "Estranged" was their real big-budget shark-jumper, as it came complete with oil tankers and dolphins. Yes, dolphins. It also featured men in white coats coming to cart Axl Rose away to the funny-farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy_Stradlin_XX Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) bite me sunny. Edited January 1, 2011 by Izzy_Stradlin_XX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Is ptsondr the dumbess guy on eearth?apparently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptsondr Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 Is ptsondr the dumbess guy on eearth?apparently not.Thanks :xmasssanta: Actually I don't agree that idea but I still think that Estranged video is a bit boring, much more than November rain and Don't cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonker88 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Is ptsondr the dumbess guy on eearth?apparently not.lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbaBubba Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Not sure about all the walking on water, but that parting shot with the dolphin is one of the creepiest smirks in rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 or "Don't Cry," with its pointless cliff-jumping car stunts and unexplained Shannon Hoon cameo/facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 ..it depends on your view point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 And yet....Michael Jackson's Thriller is considered the greatest of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 And yet....Michael Jackson's Thriller is considered the greatest of all time. It totally is Estranged is a complex song. I couldn't imagine a more rock n' roll/ straight video for it. Yes the video is over the top but wouldn't you go o.t.t. if you had the resources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) And yet....Michael Jackson's Thriller is considered the greatest of all time. It totally is Estranged is a complex song. I couldn't imagine a more rock n' roll/ straight video for it. Yes the video is over the top but wouldn't you go o.t.t. if you had the resources?That's my point. Think about every MJ video made post Thriller. Think about the Black Or White video or Smooth Criminal. They were fucking MOVIES for crying out loud. If you compare the production and budgets of those videos to Estranged, they DWARF it. But of course, it's ok for MJ. Edited January 1, 2011 by Nintari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Axl is such an easy target.I love the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostie Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 The problem with that scenario is that there could never be a video that could do that song justice, imo. The more I ponder it, the more I realize that videos have ruined many a song too. There are a number of radio songs from years past that I could only fully appreciate once it had been years since I had seen the video, so that I could separate the two in my mind. But, yeah, not Gun's best video moment for sure, although it did feature Beta, which is a good thing if you're in the pro-Beta camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I like the video then and I like the video now. As I said, Guns N Roses weren't the first to have epic videos. I think they took it up the ass harder because their videos came out right when Nirvana,Pearl Jam,Soundgarden and the rest were changing pop culture. There was a move away from what Axl was doing at the time and it made alot of it seem "uncool". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyL Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I agree with Ghostie. How do you make a video for a song like Estranged. I always lliked the video back then. I guess now it looks a little over done but the song is heavy its hard to show that in a video. It is by no means in my book bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbominableHoman Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 My favorite video of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuddMckagan Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I love the video For Estranged. Probably one of my favourite GnR music videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Use Your Delusion 1 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 And yet....Michael Jackson's Thriller is considered the greatest of all time. It totally is Estranged is a complex song. I couldn't imagine a more rock n' roll/ straight video for it. Yes the video is over the top but wouldn't you go o.t.t. if you had the resources?That's my point. Think about every MJ video made post Thriller. Think about the Black Or White video or Smooth Criminal. They were fucking MOVIES for crying out loud. If you compare the production and budgets of those videos to Estranged, they DWARF it. But of course, it's ok for MJ.It is actually the production of estranged that dwarfs many of MJ's video, the thing had a budget of $4 million or $5.5 million in todays money, that is the 5th most expensive video of all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcountry Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I was watching a VH1 special on most exspensive music videos and GRN where in at #2 with Estranged behind only the Scream video by Micheal and Janet Jackson.Here is a link to some costs of some of the most $$$$$$ music videoshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_music_videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) And yet....Michael Jackson's Thriller is considered the greatest of all time. It totally is Estranged is a complex song. I couldn't imagine a more rock n' roll/ straight video for it. Yes the video is over the top but wouldn't you go o.t.t. if you had the resources?That's my point. Think about every MJ video made post Thriller. Think about the Black Or White video or Smooth Criminal. They were fucking MOVIES for crying out loud. If you compare the production and budgets of those videos to Estranged, they DWARF it. But of course, it's ok for MJ.It is actually the production of estranged that dwarfs many of MJ's video, the thing had a budget of $4 million or $5.5 million in todays money, that is the 5th most expensive video of all timeAccording to this...it's behind three Madonna videos and one MJ videohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_music_videosEven so, my point is that those other artists don't take shit for it. Instead, they're praised. Everyone LOVES thriller and Smooth Criminal etc. Edited January 2, 2011 by Nintari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1447 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 The problem with that scenario is that there could never be a video that could do that song justice, imo. The more I ponder it, the more I realize that videos have ruined many a song too. There are a number of radio songs from years past that I could only fully appreciate once it had been years since I had seen the video, so that I could separate the two in my mind. But, yeah, not Gun's best video moment for sure, although it did feature Beta, which is a good thing if you're in the pro-Beta camp. where was beta in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Axl is such an easy target.Because he makes himself one. It's a OK video. some nice stage shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 The problem with that scenario is that there could never be a video that could do that song justice, imo. The more I ponder it, the more I realize that videos have ruined many a song too. There are a number of radio songs from years past that I could only fully appreciate once it had been years since I had seen the video, so that I could separate the two in my mind. But, yeah, not Gun's best video moment for sure, although it did feature Beta, which is a good thing if you're in the pro-Beta camp. where was beta in it?4:15 in the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocoma13 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Estranged is a video with no destination like the band at that point. It has it's moments but is pointless and confusing as the band was at that time. When I think of my fav Illusion video it is always Garden of Eden. Just the band rocking out to some killer rock in roll with those amazing lyrics scrolling by-----As far as the estanged video ---It's kind of ironic cause the band members WERE estranged----still love the song though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scans n' copies Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I never liked the video nearly as much as the song but I think the shot of Slash rising up out of the water playing that awesome solo is pretty incredible. Maybe a little OTT but it fits the solo perfectly to me.I've always been curious as to what it would've been like if Stephanie Seymour hadn't broken up with Axl before that video. I've never seen the making of video. Does it talk about what the original ideas for the video were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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