moreblack Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Music isn't about "what's needed." It's about what sounds good.to who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I hope Axl no longer wastes his time/money in Sedona.Why? It's his life and money.And him not going to Sedona ain't going to bring the old band back together.Besides, he most likely doesn't seeing as "Yoda" has been dead almost ten years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooze72 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Besides, he most likely doesn't seeing as "Yoda" has been dead almost ten years now.She died four years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickingthehabit Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Slash's issue with the synth in Paradise City has nothing to do with close-mindedness or a bad attitude. From what I remember, he was annoyed Axl had recorded it without telling anyone in the band. They didn't find out until they heard the final mix. That's what he means when he says it was the "beginning of the end" — Axl wasn't consulting his bandmates over music decisions. Even Izzy commented on this behavior in the press when My World was included on Use Your Illusion II to his surprise..Also, I think you take Slash's initial distaste for Sweet Child way too seriously, Miser. Had he liked the song, he probably wouldn't have been motivated to write the dark solo/outro. That's clearly him steering the song in another direction, similarly to what Axl claimed he did in transforming It's So Easy from a weird folksy ballad to the sledgehammer rock song we know it as. It's simply a product of the collaborative process..Do us all a favor and trade in this silly, emotional "He hated Sweet Child! He hated Sweet Child !!!!" argument for something a little more creative. As if the songs Slash was more interested in writing — Welcome to the Jungle, Paradise City, Rocket Queen, and Coma are anything to laugh at.. -Kickingthehabit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bards Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 That's the first time I'd read that Bucket hated Robin. I always thought he left due to the inertia around the band and a wish to go back to his own projects. Anyone else have anything on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Slash's issue with the synth in Paradise City has nothing to do with close-mindedness or a bad attitude. From what I remember, he was annoyed Axl had recorded it without telling anyone in the band. They didn't find out until they heard the final mix. That's what he means when he says it was the "beginning of the end" — Axl wasn't consulting his bandmates over music decisions. Even Izzy commented on this behavior in the press when My World was included on Use Your Illusion II to his surprise..Also, I think you take Slash's initial distaste for Sweet Child way too seriously, Miser. Had he liked the song, he probably wouldn't have been motivated to write the dark solo/outro. That's clearly him steering the song in another direction, similarly to what Axl claimed he did in transforming It's So Easy from a weird folksy ballad to the sledgehammer rock song we know it as. It's simply a product of the collaborative process..Do us all a favor and trade in this silly, emotional "He hated Sweet Child! He hated Sweet Child !!!!" argument for something a little more creative. As if the songs Slash was more interested in writing — Welcome to the Jungle, Paradise City, Rocket Queen, and Coma are anything to laugh at.. -KickingthehabitI'm not going to even discuss this with you.You have your side, your opinions, I have mine.Your opinions won't change, your crusade will continue, so must mine.Dialogue between enemies is redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooze72 Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 That's the first time I'd read that Bucket hated Robin. I always thought he left due to the inertia around the band and a wish to go back to his own projects. Anyone else have anything on this?Bucket is loonier than Axl and for reasons unknown (and unknown to Robin as well I'd guess), he hated him. I'm sure there were other reasons, but it was a biggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I like all sorts of music, from Bach/Beethoven to Lady GaGa/Slipknot. If a certain sound can make a song better, artificial or not, I say go for it.However, the synth in Paradise City does not make the song better, and sounds very out of place. I'm not a fan of it. Unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I like all sorts of music, from Bach/Beethoven to Lady GaGa/Slipknot. If a certain sound can make a song better, artificial or not, I say go for it.However, the synth in Paradise City does not make the song better, and sounds very out of place. I'm not a fan of it. Unnecessary.This. The chords played on the synth match the power chords played on the electric guitar on the song. So even if the synth was removed, the guitar would be playing the same notes anyway. Unnecessary maybe, but it didn't hurt the song at all. But like Kickingthehabit posted, it wasn't the actual synth that meant the beginning of the end, it was Axl's actions without consulting the band. First i have heard that the synth was Axl's doing though, i knew Izzy didn't know My World was going to be on the record but never knew about the Paradise City issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 it plays out pretty well as the story of CD. they left out the part where on his return after CD's release he decked that paparazzi at LAX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.W.A.T. Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 It says in the article that part of the reason why Buckethead left the band was because he hated Ronin Finck. Where are they getting this information from? I have never heard of anything like Bucket not getting along with Robin before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew07 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 It says in the article that part of the reason why Buckethead left the band was because he hated Ronin Finck. Where are they getting this information from? I have never heard of anything like Bucket not getting along with Robin before.yeah i almost feel that this article made up a few facts.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I like all sorts of music, from Bach/Beethoven to Lady GaGa/Slipknot. If a certain sound can make a song better, artificial or not, I say go for it.However, the synth in Paradise City does not make the song better, and sounds very out of place. I'm not a fan of it. Unnecessary.This. The chords played on the synth match the power chords played on the electric guitar on the song. So even if the synth was removed, the guitar would be playing the same notes anyway. Unnecessary maybe, but it didn't hurt the song at all. But like Kickingthehabit posted, it wasn't the actual synth that meant the beginning of the end, it was Axl's actions without consulting the band. First i have heard that the synth was Axl's doing though, i knew Izzy didn't know My World was going to be on the record but never knew about the Paradise City issue.Izzy wasn't around for the last UYI sessions and not even the mixing sessions. Slash had to ''double up'' for him because most of his Izzy's guitar work was unfinished or incomplete, or on some tracks, not there. If a guy doesn't show up for the last however many rounds of recording, is it not possible a song was recorded and he doesn't know about it?I don't think My World was placed on there under the cover of night as a secret plot by Axl. I mean even Slash claimed Izzy wasn't around very much at all at this point. He even went so far as to claim Izzy doesn't really play on most of the UYIs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todo Poderoso Timão Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 It says in the article that part of the reason why Buckethead left the band was because he hated Ronin Finck. Where are they getting this information from? I have never heard of anything like Bucket not getting along with Robin before.I'm with you. What do we know about that? And anything other than facts or quotes doesn't convince me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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