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You know what Marshall series I feel bad for? The MG series. Of all the solid state amps out there, I could never understand why this particular series became the most hated of all. With some proper EQ and a decent player, they rip.

These days you'd be better off with a Katana for the same price, but still.

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2 hours ago, James Bond said:

You know what Marshall series I feel bad for? The MG series. Of all the solid state amps out there, I could never understand why this particular series became the most hated of all. With some proper EQ and a decent player, they rip.

These days you'd be better off with a Katana for the same price, but still.

As a teenager, my buddy had a massive 100 watt MG combo and in college, I had a 30 watt combo. They certainly weren't bad for what they were. Lots of good tones in them. They are a little outdated now with all of the cheap, high quality modeling amps like the Katana and Mustang out there, but they are cool. People definitely buy them, they've been in Marshall's lineup for like 15 years or more, now. The CODE and Line 6 Spider get a lot of hate, too. I think these are all great amps for what they do at the prices they are. I would have loved any one of these current modelers when I first started. I had a horrendous 15 watt Crate. My buddy had a Spider. His Spider was way more inspiring and fun to play as a new guitarist.

Surprised you don't like they rhythm clip channel on the Jubilee! That has been my favorite so far!

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This is also controversial- but in my opinion, a lot of gain sounds the same at lower volumes. When playing quiet, an MG could sound similar to our Jubilees. It is when you really get to turn up and open an amp up do the differences come to light

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@ZoSoRose

I agree. My first amp was an MG15 and it was perfectly respectable for a budding guitarist, and I quite literally used to carry it through the snow to bring it to school when I'd play and it never failed on me. I think some people just have some unrealistic expectations because "this $100 amp doesn't sound the same as a true vintage JMP" or "iT's nOt tUbE" and it's like... well no shit. :lol:

I'm also with you on the low volumes thing. That was a huge factor in why I ditched the Vox. In general, I find that Marshall's perform well at low volumes anyways. I don't use a lot of gain anyways so the more I can push the tubes the better, so 5 watts is certainly much more manageable!

Yeah the whole Jubilee world loves the Rhythm Clip except me apparently! I think it's because I'm basically a one channel, set it and leave it type player once I found my sweet spot on the Lead channel there was no turning back. I probably just haven't spent enough time with it.

Speaking of modellers, the Katana is amazing. @Voodoochild is rocking some awesome tones on his. I honestly think you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference in a live mix.

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22 minutes ago, James Bond said:

@ZoSoRose

I agree. My first amp was an MG15 and it was perfectly respectable for a budding guitarist, and I quite literally used to carry it through the snow to bring it to school when I'd play and it never failed on me. I think some people just have some unrealistic expectations because "this $100 amp doesn't sound the same as a true vintage JMP" or "iT's nOt tUbE" and it's like... well no shit. :lol:

I'm also with you on the low volumes thing. That was a huge factor in why I ditched the Vox. In general, I find that Marshall's perform well at low volumes anyways. I don't use a lot of gain anyways so the more I can push the tubes the better, so 5 watts is certainly much more manageable!

Yeah the whole Jubilee world loves the Rhythm Clip except me apparently! I think it's because I'm basically a one channel, set it and leave it type player once I found my sweet spot on the Lead channel there was no turning back. I probably just haven't spent enough time with it.

Speaking of modellers, the Katana is amazing. @Voodoochild is rocking some awesome tones on his. I honestly think you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference in a live mix.

For sure, the Helix is still my favorite and most useful piece of gear I own. High quality digital tones absolutely match any amplifier out there. Especially when recorded or in a live situation. I just wanted an amp because I like them, and the Jubilee was a grail amp so why not? Another toy in the box. Plus you can use all this stuff together and it always integrates and sounds great. The Katana takes pedals well and the Jubilee takes the emulated effects well and vice versa.

It is a good time to buy gear

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Lead channel is where it's at. I was home alone so I could crank it. Put the gain and lead output low and the master output high

 

So killer

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14 hours ago, James Bond said:

Speaking of modellers, the Katana is amazing. @Voodoochild is rocking some awesome tones on his. I honestly think you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference in a live mix.

Thanks! But is the Katana a modeller or just a competent solid state? There is no real amp simulation other than the different channels (crunch, lead, brown etc.). The variety in the tones is achieved through the booster pedals (for Slash tones, I'm using the Guv'n model, and for Robin I'm bouncing between some fuzz or a Tube Screamer pedal) and EQ on the software companion. The preamp is analogue, and the idea is that it mimics some of the valve characteristics, so it reacts more organically than a pure simulation like the Code. 

Funny thing is that I live in a small apartment, so I never ever had my amp above the 0,5W mode and level at 3 at max. :lol:

 

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3 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

Thanks! But is the Katana a modeller or just a competent solid state? There is no real amp simulation other than the different channels (crunch, lead, brown etc.). The variety in the tones is achieved through the booster pedals (for Slash tones, I'm using the Guv'n model, and for Robin I'm bouncing between some fuzz or a Tube Screamer pedal) and EQ on the software companion. The preamp is analogue, and the idea is that it mimics some of the valve characteristics, so it reacts more organically than a pure simulation like the Code. 

Funny thing is that I live in a small apartment, so I never ever had my amp above the 0,5W mode and level at 3 at max. :lol:

 

The Katana is a solid state modeling amp. I believe the amp models are the same as the four main ones in their GT1000. The ARES models. I could be wrong.

Either way, it sounds great. I would confidentiality play a gig with a Katana and not feel like I was compromising. It's great you can buy a brand new amp under $300 dollars that can handle that

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5 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

Thanks! But is the Katana a modeller or just a competent solid state? There is no real amp simulation other than the different channels (crunch, lead, brown etc.). The variety in the tones is achieved through the booster pedals (for Slash tones, I'm using the Guv'n model, and for Robin I'm bouncing between some fuzz or a Tube Screamer pedal) and EQ on the software companion. The preamp is analogue, and the idea is that it mimics some of the valve characteristics, so it reacts more organically than a pure simulation like the Code. 

Funny thing is that I live in a small apartment, so I never ever had my amp above the 0,5W mode and level at 3 at max. :lol:

 

What he said above. I was under the impression that it was essentially an amp version of the GT-1000 or what have you. Either way, all the more impressive that you've got such a killer sound at 0.5 watts! Be careful not to speak that too loudly on a guitar forum. :lol:

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Boss has a killer lineup right now. It isn't as fancy looking as a Helix but it has great sounds and is cheaper. I do think their next flagship board (which is probably still far out) needs at least a color screen and improved UI, though

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I really like the interface of my Zoom G5n. It's dated, but it is super easy to use and edit on the fly. It's very practical as a stompbox replacement and my "patches" are essentially just different combinations of pedals. Switching in and out is a breeze.

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Since Boss just released the GT1000 Core, I don't think they are updating the main board anytime soon. That thing is quite small and handy, but I'm not sure why would anyone buy that instead of a proper GT1000.

4 hours ago, ZoSoRose said:

The Katana is a solid state modeling amp. I believe the amp models are the same as the four main ones in their GT1000. The ARES models. I could be wrong.

Either way, it sounds great. I would confidentiality play a gig with a Katana and not feel like I was compromising. It's great you can buy a brand new amp under $300 dollars that can handle that

Not sure, it feels different than the purely digital modeling amp I tested (Fender Mustang and Marshall Code). Maybe because of the power amp thing. 

Indeed, it's great to have a pretty decent small amp like this that is gigable. Though I'm sure I won't ever join a band again at this point in my life.

2 hours ago, James Bond said:

What he said above. I was under the impression that it was essentially an amp version of the GT-1000 or what have you. Either way, all the more impressive that you've got such a killer sound at 0.5 watts! Be careful not to speak that too loudly on a guitar forum. :lol:

It's kinda the same, but I guess the GT-1000 has a better processor. Maybe it's a stripped down version. Boss could really benefit to make it everything the same, including patch compatibility. 

Most of the time I don't even turn the amp speaker on and just use headphones because I need to play it very quietly while my wife is in meetings lol 

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On 1/19/2021 at 10:51 AM, James Bond said:

You know what Marshall series I feel bad for? The MG series. Of all the solid state amps out there, I could never understand why this particular series became the most hated of all. With some proper EQ and a decent player, they rip.

These days you'd be better off with a Katana for the same price, but still.

They're hated because they replaced the beloved Valvestate line with them, a clearly inferior amp.

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20 hours ago, AxlisOld said:

They're hated because they replaced the beloved Valvestate line with them, a clearly inferior amp.

The Valvestates were pretty sweet. Marshall had some cool solid state stuff. The Lead series from the 80s sounds great, too

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