The 1994-2000 era

[Vincent Vega]

Am I the only one who is interested in what went down during that period?

I kinda wonder why Axl was so dead quiet during those years...Why he didn't go to a single public event from '94 to '00.

I also wonder when the CD songs were written and recorded, and what the oldest song is on there--Oldest lyrically, that is.

It's like the Lost Half Decade of Axl/GN'R.

[Guest Sleeping Like An Angel]

Wasn't their 'mild cancer' rumours?

Death of his mother

Court cases

If all that went down then he didn't have much time for anything else.

[Guest Sleeping Like An Angel]

Wasn't their 'mild cancer' rumours?

Death of his mother

Court cases

If all that went down then he didn't have much time for anything else.

that kind of stuff consumes maybe a year at most.

Have you ever witnessed a GNR court case?

[sascha]

I also wonder when the CD songs were written and recorded, and what the oldest song is on there--Oldest lyrically, that is.

This I Love 1992

Catcher 199?

CD 1999

TWAT 1999

Prostitute 1999

The Blues 2000

Madagascar 2000/01

IRS 2001

Rhiad 2001

If The World 2001

Better 2002 (?)

Sorry 2003/04

Scraped 2005

Shackler 2005

Just an educated guess from when I first heard (about) them.

Edited February 11, 2011 by sascha

[Vincent Vega]

I also wonder when the CD songs were written and recorded, and what the oldest song is on there--Oldest lyrically, that is.

This I Love 1992

Catcher 199?

CD 1999

TWAT 1999

Prostitute 1999

The Blues 2000

Madagascar 2000/01

IRS 2001

Rhiad 2001

Better 2002 (?)

Sorry 2003/04

Scraped 2005

Shackler 2005

Just an educated guess from when I first heard (about) them.

Well the thing with CITR, TWAT, PROS and CD is that even though they were first mentioned in 1999, it doesn't mean they weren't written say in 1995, 1996.

Why he didn't go to a single public event from '94 to '00.

he did

Yeah but the only reason we know he went to any of those concerts is because of secondhand accounts. Whatever he did in 1994-2000 was VERY low key, purposely so. It wasn't like 2006 where he was openly going to all these big events, you know what I mean?

And not only that, but why not a single interview in 1994-1999? Why did he never respond to all of the BS and rumors of that period at all? For example when the old band members were telling their narrative of ''what went down'' during that period, why did he stay silent? His silence in that period is what caused a lot of their stories to seem like the truth.

[Gordon Comstock]

Madagascar was actually from '98, I read that was the first song he'd sung in years...

[bax]

This is definitely what fascinates me the most. There was a pretty good RS article written during that time-there were stories that he went through a lot of past life regression therapy and presumably did a lot of soul searching. If that's the case, I think he was most likely being manipulated by a lot of the typical Sedona charlatans, because he certainly didn't seem to find any sort of inner peace through the process.

I know how a lot of people feel about the info MSL claims to have, but this is what I am primarily interested in-gaining some sort of understanding of Axl which he doesn't seem to want to share for whatever reason.

[2x4]

I think it was 1996 when Axl performed with Bruce Springstein.

In 2000, Axl joined Gilby Clark on stage in a club in LA, I think, and sang a few Stones covers with him.

[Atlas Shrugged]

1994-2002 is the most interesting era.

Edited February 11, 2011 by Atlas Shrugged

[SunnyDRE]

I'm sure he went places (Movies,Theatre, Sporting Events), all the time. Keep in mind the internet wasn't always around. There wasn't always TMZs and Perez Hiltons.

[sascha]

Well the thing with CITR, TWAT, PROS and CD is that even though they were first mentioned in 1999, it doesn't mean they weren't written say in 1995, 1996.

One can only connect the dots. Riad and If The World - that's probably Axl watching 9/11 on CNN and it would fall in place with his voice from around that time. Sorry has Buckethead's Population Override sound from 2004. This I Love well that goes without saying, maybe the only song on the record dealing and written with actual love. That song is a good place to start when dating the material as for any other artist this would have been the sadest song they ever did, but on CD it's actually rather uplifting in contrast to all the depressive stuff like Prostitute, TWAT or Sorry. It's good music but would you want to dance or get laid to Prostitute? That's what I'm talking about, This I Love was written by the Axl who said "life sucks but in a beautiful kind of way", everything after was the "he's in my ass" Axl. Not saying whos right or wrong, just noticing a rather drastic change in musical themes and motivations. Also, the music (the actual composition/notation) is an indicator for a timeline as he keeps using certain themes and progressions as references to other songs and points in time or himself, it's most obvious in Prostitute with the little references to Estranged and TWAT.

[Vincent Vega]

I think it was 1996 when Axl performed with Bruce Springstein.

In 2000, Axl joined Gilby Clark on stage in a club in LA, I think, and sang a few Stones covers with him.

January 20th 1994 was the Springsteen thing. It was his last public performance and major, well known public appearance (outside of his 1998 arrest) of the '90s.

[Freddie Mercury's Ghost]

Axl was planning on marrying Stephanie, she left him.

So he went back to GNR to write about it, his bandmates wanted no part of his sappy ballads, and they also left him.

The guy was emotionally fucked up, and the faith-healing bulshit he subscribes to didn't help.

Didn't Stephanie say in court that Axl called her up looking for pictures of her dead dog?

He needs a legit psychiatrist and less hangers-on.

[Vincent Vega]

Axl was planning on marrying Stephanie, she left him.

So he went back to GNR to write about it, his bandmates wanted no part of his sappy ballads, and they also left him.

The guy was emotionally fucked up, and the faith-healing bulshit he subscribes to didn't help.

Didn't Stephanie say in court that Axl called her up looking for pictures of her dead dog?

He needs a legit psychiatrist and less hangers-on.

He had a psychiatrist. She even went on tour with the band in the early '90s. Axl spoke about her openly at the time.

[Guest Sleeping Like An Angel]

I thought Axl dumped Stephanie because she cheated on him and she was doing drugs in front of little Dylan?

[AGS]

well, theres the HOF with Elton John in 1994, no idea the month.

Death of his mother in 96 (contrary to another user from post in the first page, some people take more than 1 year to recover from this things, i know what im talking about)

95 Zakk jams with them

99 Axl intervriew with kurt loder and all the OMG thing.

Dec 94 also SFTD

Acording to all in guns they recorded a lot in 94-96

Band members leaving, others coming... there was a lot going on... and we know it...

[ohmygod]

well, theres the HOF with Elton John in 1994, no idea the month.

Death of his mother in 96 (contrary to another user from post in the first page, some people take more than 1 year to recover from this things, i know what im talking about)

95 Zakk jams with them

99 Axl intervriew with kurt loder and all the OMG thing.

Dec 94 also SFTD

Acording to all in guns they recorded a lot in 94-96

Band members leaving, others coming... there was a lot going on... and we know it...

Sounds right.

*welcome to the forum, rad 1st post.

[Bards]

The Springsteen performance was '94.

I'm guessing Axl spent most of the mid-late 90's taking a pronounced disinterest in what his bandmates were doing which is why we wound up with a new band in the first place.

also: didn't you just make a huge faux-emotional "internet retirement" like a day ago?

[AGS]

thx for the RE-welcome to the forumm, i got my account hacked (yep, ArgentinaRoses was the username) had it since 03-04 since then, i watch this forum as guest (admin couldnt give my acc back)

i guess those years (at least for Axl) were very inspiring to what we heard on CD and any other stuff we prolly still havent heard... makes me remember, almost ALL of the UYI were/was made during the appetite days (85-88) if u check, like %80 of the songs existed in some ways by that time. That makes me think the way Axl works, he has a huuuge period of inspiration write lots of stuff, then release (to his bandmambers, public, etc) over the years... then.. start again... like the interviews over the last years where everyone tell there are like 40+ songs "ready"...

[SunnyDRE]

I thought Axl dumped Stephanie because she cheated on him and she was doing drugs in front of little Dylan?

I always wonder if thats the REAL reason we won't ever see a reunion.

Catch my drift?

Just a theory...nothing to base it own, but with the animosity that Axl still holds against Slash, I can only wonder if "it" is more personal than we think.

[axl666]

Is it true that Axl backpacked around China or South America for a while? I remember hearing that reported but

don't know how accurate it was

[CAFC Nick]

I also wonder when the CD songs were written and recorded, and what the oldest song is on there--Oldest lyrically, that is.

This I Love 1992

Catcher 199?

CD 1999

TWAT 1999

Prostitute 1999

The Blues 2000

Madagascar 2000/01

IRS 2001

Rhiad 2001

If The World 2001

Better 2002 (?)

Sorry 2003/04

Scraped 2005

Shackler 2005

Just an educated guess from when I first heard (about) them.

Shackler's and Scraped are both predominantly Buckethead songs, so they have to be dated to pre-2004.

[Guest Sleeping Like An Angel]

I thought Axl dumped Stephanie because she cheated on him and she was doing drugs in front of little Dylan?

I always wonder if thats the REAL reason we won't ever see a reunion.

Catch my drift?

Just a theory...nothing to base it own, but with the animosity that Axl still holds against Slash, I can only wonder if "it" is more personal than we think.

I never even thought about that but of course it could have happened. They all would have hung out together and they all loved their splenda. Axl used to sleep with their girlfriends so I guess... hmmm

You're being serious right?

[Axl owns dexter]

I thought Axl dumped Stephanie because she cheated on him and she was doing drugs in front of little Dylan?

I always wonder if thats the REAL reason we won't ever see a reunion.

Catch my drift?

Just a theory...nothing to base it own, but with the animosity that Axl still holds against Slash, I can only wonder if "it" is more personal than we think.

I'm sure Axl would have at least ranted about something like that by now.

[AGS]

Is it true that Axl backpacked around China or South America for a while? I remember hearing that reported but

don't know how accurate it was

in a recent interview Axl said he went to china, cant remember the date of that interview... but for sure before 2000... the SA thing, probably, since beta been with him for a while... there is no reason to believe he didnt went there for a time (brazil)... hope someday Axl release a bio and give us some hints of that era... (he did on the chats, about the recording with the old and new band)...