ITG Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I hope there's a hidden message in Axl's words. That would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 why did all those pics get deleted? Well ummm, you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maXx Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 maybe those behind the scenes are indeed planning to re-release the album with the better art and with more tracks, and they don't like anyone getting the jump on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 maybe those behind the scenes are indeed planning to re-release the album with the better art and with more tracks, and they don't like anyone getting the jump on them.Hopefully man, but really, who outside these forums would care that the booklet gets leaked? How could it damage the release in anyway. The general population will not rush out to get this when and if it comes out UNLESS it is HEAVILY promoted. I sure as hell will buy this when it comes out, but i do not think leaking the images will cause up much of a stir outside the Guns N' Roses forums. I just don't get why this band is so secretive over trivial matters. I can understand the 70's band mentality of keeping things mystic aka Led Zeppelin, but their plans usually came to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I hope there's a hidden message in Axl's words. That would be cool.Holy shit I agree with you for once. Can we be friends now? Haha. But seriously, good point- Axl has a history of embedding hidden messages. Sooo, is there a cheap data mining program I can borrow to run on it? ; ) Yes yes I know: where would be the fun in that? Gotta figure it out old school. Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 So, am I wrong, or is the issue with N. Ireland different from that of Scotland and Wales due to historical ties to the crown? Both Scotland and Wales have seen their fair share of people from their kingdoms get crowned as King of the UK, from modern times all the way back to the Stuarts. However, unless I'm mistaken, Ireland has never been represented in the British royal family. I know this is nearly a moot point, as the King/Queen has no real power, but it has to be a problem in creating buy-in from the Irish people. Basically, Ireland was on their way to home rule before WWI, then they put their differences with the British kingdoms aside in a patriotic stance vs. Germany. The issue of home rule never got serious attention afterward. It's like the movement got put on pause and never got officially revisited.Wales was conquered by England and essentially became an English municipality long before either of the other two. Scotland was technically never conquered by England, the King James VI of Scotland ascended to the throne of England where he became James I, he tried to unite the two but they remained separate countries (ruled by the same Monarch) for about a century after this, then politically the two were united in the Act of Union in 1707 (despite widespread Scottish protest). All three of the non-English states now have devolved parliaments with limited jurisdiction and varying degrees of success... The idea's gone over most successfully in Scotland which is why we have a fully fledged parliament with a pro-independence administration currently running the show (although it's definitely not without its problems , and I'm not sure how I feel on the subject of independence... I don't feel "British" by any stretch of the imagination but looking at how Ireland's not doing too well I think for Scotland to sever our ties with England at the moment is one of the last things we need and at any rate we have cultural autonomy, our own flag, our own broadcasting system, respect for both languages used here, no one corrects us when we say we're Scottish.) Whereas in Wales the idea received a far narrower majority so they have far fewer powers and Northern Ireland has been returned to Westminster rule more than once because it's such a hotbed of political instability that the assembly just can't cope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Riggs Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Am I supposed to actually believe this is real? WTF is that junk about rhiad supposed to mean? He actually wrote a song about what sounds like a fake person who was related to Erin Everly?...okay.Oh and to all these idiot relativists on here tring to sound intelligent while equating Western politics as nothing better than Communist China....STFU...you're not smart by trying to come of as a cynical intellectual...you're actually a dumbass for not realizing that there is a HUGE difference between the two and how it affects citizens...Pointing out that democracy still allows problems to happen in societies isn't a novel thought...no system is perfect, there's just a lot less perfect ones...is that really that hard to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I think this is fan made.What´s with all the shit stirrers lately? Yeah, I know. It's like they take something Axl said and then incorporate it into their own vernacular. Sad eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cineater Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Axl repeatedly states the guy claims this that and the other thing. Rhiad is the guy's code name according to him. Axl is not saying he believes what the guy says. Very simply, he is telling what he was thinking about when the songs were written. At least that's the way I take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Axl repeatedly states the guy claims this that and the other thing. Rhiad is the guy's code name according to him. Axl is not saying he believes what the guy says. Very simply, he is telling what he was thinking about when the songs were written. At least that's the way I take it.Actually, "Riad" in Arabic is a very common name, its pronounced "Ree-yowd", Axl did say Riad was part Lebanese in descent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyrie Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 "Her siblings are brother musician Edan Everly and sister Stacy Everly"Well this should be easy. Since Erin only has two siblings, and it's neither of them (Edan is fairly well known in his own right, it's a famous family), that would leave Stacy's husband, assuming she has one, as the only possible candidate. Should be pretty easy to debunk this shit. I'm lazy, someone Google some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Only Guns N' Roses' idiotic fans would be given an album booklet and call it fake. Skeptical son'bitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Part of the artwork had surfaced in 2009 and some of it was used during this tour either on the screens ( crying babies during Chinese Democracy ) or on Axl's piano...Of course this is real... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl8302 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Am I supposed to actually believe this is real? WTF is that junk about rhiad supposed to mean? He actually wrote a song about what sounds like a fake person who was related to Erin Everly?...okay.Oh and to all these idiot relativists on here tring to sound intelligent while equating Western politics as nothing better than Communist China....STFU...you're not smart by trying to come of as a cynical intellectual...you're actually a dumbass for not realizing that there is a HUGE difference between the two and how it affects citizens...Pointing out that democracy still allows problems to happen in societies isn't a novel thought...no system is perfect, there's just a lot less perfect ones...is that really that hard to understand?You're the one coming off as cynical... We're were discussing politics in a political thread, if you have nothing intelligent to add STFU.The book is so obviously real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I absolutely love the politicized Axl. From doctrines on China, to a critique on possibly a Rothschild? Not to mention the numerous politically orientated t-shirts on tour (e.g. the Soviet tees etc.). He should really run for office (I bet he'd be a Ron Paul type character). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Money Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I don't think this is fake at all. Axl is the master of run-on sentences. They often seem so long that I sometimes have to re-read them 3 or so times to understand him. It is exhausting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelica Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 "Her siblings are brother musician Edan Everly and sister Stacy Everly"Well this should be easy. Since Erin only has two siblings, and it's neither of them (Edan is fairly well known in his own right, it's a famous family), that would leave Stacy's husband, assuming she has one, as the only possible candidate. Should be pretty easy to debunk this shit. I'm lazy, someone Google some more.Those are just her full siblings, Don Everly had a bunch of kids. I can't believe the skepticism about this, no one has ever effectively impersonated Axl's particular strain of crazy. It's legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wight gunner Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Just checked a T-shirt bought at the O2, says made in china on the label Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITG Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I think it's real. Remember that "fake" prototype CD cover that referenced Thyme (which was considered a fake song because of the fake one running around). Years later the real release Chinese Democracy front/back covers looked the same as the prototype with the same fonts etc (and MSL confirmed Thyme as a real song). It's as real as the deal with Bill McNeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyrie Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) "Her siblings are brother musician Edan Everly and sister Stacy Everly"Well this should be easy. Since Erin only has two siblings, and it's neither of them (Edan is fairly well known in his own right, it's a famous family), that would leave Stacy's husband, assuming she has one, as the only possible candidate. Should be pretty easy to debunk this shit. I'm lazy, someone Google some more.Those are just her full siblings, Don Everly had a bunch of kids. I can't believe the skepticism about this, no one has ever effectively impersonated Axl's particular strain of crazy. It's legit.How does that make it any more true? "...no one has ever effectively impersonated Axl's particular strain of crazy. It's legit." No, that doesn't make it legit.I'm somewhat willing to buy some of this... but there's been way too many false rumours on these boards of late. Edited February 26, 2011 by kyrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 "Her siblings are brother musician Edan Everly and sister Stacy Everly"Well this should be easy. Since Erin only has two siblings, and it's neither of them (Edan is fairly well known in his own right, it's a famous family), that would leave Stacy's husband, assuming she has one, as the only possible candidate. Should be pretty easy to debunk this shit. I'm lazy, someone Google some more.Those are just her full siblings, Don Everly had a bunch of kids. I can't believe the skepticism about this, no one has ever effectively impersonated Axl's particular strain of crazy. It's legit.How does that make it any more true? "...no one has ever effectively impersonated Axl's particular strain of crazy. It's legit." No, that doesn't make it legit.I'm somewhat willing to buy some of this... but there's been way too many false rumours on these boards of late.It's legit. Even Chairman Jarmo is allowing it to be discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) I think it's real. Remember that "fake" prototype CD cover that referenced Thyme (which was considered a fake song because of the fake one running around). Years later the real release Chinese Democracy front/back covers looked the same as the prototype with the same fonts etc (and MSL confirmed Thyme as a real song). It's as real as the deal with Bill McNeal.The Thyme title has been around since 2002. It was mentioned by Marco Beltrami on his website back then, along with Seven, Leave Me Alone (Soul Monster) and The General. The "prototype cover" you're talking about, I'm assuming the "bike against the wall" one was fan made.From the Way Back Machine, dunno if the link works... http://web.archive.org/web/20021120050838/http://marcobeltrami.com/Anyhow, I agree with you that the most recent one is most definitely real. Edited February 27, 2011 by spirit83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyrie Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 "Her siblings are brother musician Edan Everly and sister Stacy Everly"Well this should be easy. Since Erin only has two siblings, and it's neither of them (Edan is fairly well known in his own right, it's a famous family), that would leave Stacy's husband, assuming she has one, as the only possible candidate. Should be pretty easy to debunk this shit. I'm lazy, someone Google some more.Those are just her full siblings, Don Everly had a bunch of kids. I can't believe the skepticism about this, no one has ever effectively impersonated Axl's particular strain of crazy. It's legit.How does that make it any more true? "...no one has ever effectively impersonated Axl's particular strain of crazy. It's legit." No, that doesn't make it legit.I'm somewhat willing to buy some of this... but there's been way too many false rumours on these boards of late.It's legit. Even Chairman Jarmo is allowing it to be discussed.So the US tour dates are also legit? He's allowing those to be discussed. Stop and think about what you're saying. As much as a lot of people dislike the guy and his quick to delete moderation, he usually allows non-slanderous rumours to be discussed.Again, the standards around here are laughable when it comes to rumours. This may very well turn out legit, just saying, you guys are fucking hilarious at times. Jarmo didn't delete it so it's true. Is the reverse therefore true as well? He's not allowing it to be discussed, so it must be false? I bet half the haters on here would shit themselves at that idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsalinger Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Are people really still questioning this, lol? Seriously, LOOK. AT. THE. PICTURES. Obviously, it's legit. Edited February 27, 2011 by axlsalinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) "Her siblings are brother musician Edan Everly and sister Stacy Everly"Well this should be easy. Since Erin only has two siblings, and it's neither of them (Edan is fairly well known in his own right, it's a famous family), that would leave Stacy's husband, assuming she has one, as the only possible candidate. Should be pretty easy to debunk this shit. I'm lazy, someone Google some more.Those are just her full siblings, Don Everly had a bunch of kids. I can't believe the skepticism about this, no one has ever effectively impersonated Axl's particular strain of crazy. It's legit.How does that make it any more true? "...no one has ever effectively impersonated Axl's particular strain of crazy. It's legit." No, that doesn't make it legit.I'm somewhat willing to buy some of this... but there's been way too many false rumours on these boards of late.It's legit. Even Chairman Jarmo is allowing it to be discussed.So the US tour dates are also legit? He's allowing those to be discussed. Stop and think about what you're saying. As much as a lot of people dislike the guy and his quick to delete moderation, he usually allows non-slanderous rumours to be discussed.Again, the standards around here are laughable when it comes to rumours. This may very well turn out legit, just saying, you guys are fucking hilarious at times. Jarmo didn't delete it so it's true. Is the reverse therefore true as well? He's not allowing it to be discussed, so it must be false? I bet half the haters on here would shit themselves at that idea After waiting all those years for Chinese Democracy I've been conditioned to believe everything Jarmo allows discussions of. Edited February 27, 2011 by ITW 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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