w6a6x6l6 Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 For the last time. Axl confirmed 12 songs. None of them were songs that are already released. End of story. Atlas is not scraped. Riad is not Oklahoma. Catcher is not oklahoma. Oklahoma is Berlin. Berlin is not Riad. Thus Oklahoma is not Riad. under the same logic Catcher is not Oklahoma. Focker out!your just salty cuz you think there's more out there...................... Also, Checkmate is not jackie chan. Chan is not the general. the general is not checkmate so there fuckers.Also, Beta's barn is not a song.it was "described" that Beta's Barn is a song !!!!
avahland Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Atlas Shrugged is .................... Scraped"sometimes I feel like the world is on top of me"Interesting legend, Atlas had a deal with Herculeas that Prometheus arranged. Something about taking the weight off Atlas's shoulders and some apples.The Apples of the HesperidesPoor Hercules! After eight years and one month, after performing ten superhuman labors, he was still not off the hook. Eurystheus demanded two more labors from the hero, since he did not count the hydra or the Augean stables as properly done.Eurystheus commanded Hercules to bring him golden apples which belonged to Zeus, king of the gods. Hera had given these apples to Zeus as a wedding gift, so surely this task was impossible. Hera, who didn't want to see Hercules succeed, would never permit him to steal one of her prize possessions, would she? These apples were kept in a garden at the northern edge of the world, and they were guarded not only by a hundred-headed dragon, named Ladon, but also by the Hesperides, nymphs who were daughters of Atlas, the titan who held the sky and the earth upon his shouldersHercules' first problem was that he didn't know where the garden was. He journeyed through Libya, Egypt, Arabia, and Asia, having adventures along the way. He was stopped by Kyknos, the son of the war god, Ares, who demanded that Hercules fight him. After the fight was broken up by a thunderbolt, Hercules continued on to Illyria, where he seized the sea-god Nereus, who knew the garden's secret location. Nereus transformed himself into all kinds of shapes,trying to escape, but Hercules held tight and didn't release Nereus until he got the information he neededContinuing on his quest, Hercules was stopped by Antaeus, the son of the sea god, Poseidon, who also challenged Hercules to fight. Hercules defeated him in a wrestling match, lifting him off the ground and crushing him, because when Antaeus touched the earth he became stronger. After that, Hercules met up with Busiris, another of Poseidon's sons, was captured, and was led to an altar to be a human sacrifice. But Hercules escaped, killing Busiris, and journeyed onHercules came to the rock on Mount Caucasus where Prometheus was chained. Prometheus, a trickster who made fun of the gods and stole the secret of fire from them, was sentenced by Zeus to a horrible fate. He was bound to the mountain, and every day a monstrous eagle came and ate his liver, pecking away at Prometheus' tortured body. After the eagle flew off, Prometheus' liver grew back, and the next day he had to endure the eagle's painful visit all over again. This went on for 30 years, until Hercules showed up and killed the eagle.In gratitude, Prometheus told Hercules the secret to getting the apples. He would have to send Atlas after them, instead of going himself. Atlas hated holding up the sky and the earth so much that he would agree to the task of fetching the apples, in order to pass his burden over to Hercules. Everything happened as Prometheus had predicted, and Atlas went to get the apples while Hercules was stuck in Atlas's place, with the weight of the world literally on his shoulders.When Atlas returned with the golden apples, he told Hercules he would take them to Eurystheus himself, and asked Hercules to stay there and hold the heavy load for the rest of time. Hercules slyly agreed, but asked Atlas whether he could take it back again, just for a moment, while the hero put some soft padding on his shoulders to help him bear the weight of the sky and the earth. Atlas put the apples on the ground, and lifted the burden onto his own shoulders. And so Hercules picked up the apples and quickly ran off, carrying them back, uneventfully, to Eurystheus.There was one final problem: because they belonged to the gods, the apples could not remain with Eurystheus. After all the trouble Hercules went through to get them, he had to return them to Athena, who took them back to the garden at the northern edge of the world.http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Herakles/apples.htmlOn one level Axl, Prometheus & John Galt are the same archetype WHO IS JOHN GALT ?
tange Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 For the last time. Axl confirmed 12 songs. None of them were songs that are already released. End of story. Atlas is not scraped. Riad is not Oklahoma. Catcher is not oklahoma. Oklahoma is Berlin. Berlin is not Riad. Thus Oklahoma is not Riad. under the same logic Catcher is not Oklahoma. Focker out!your just salty cuz you think there's more out there...................... Also, Checkmate is not jackie chan. Chan is not the general. the general is not checkmate so there fuckers.Also, Beta's barn is not a song.I wonder if we will hear OMG and Silk Worms on CD II?I hope so kemosabee For the last time. Axl confirmed 12 songs. None of them were songs that are already released. End of story. Atlas is not scraped. Riad is not Oklahoma. Catcher is not oklahoma. Oklahoma is Berlin. Berlin is not Riad. Thus Oklahoma is not Riad. under the same logic Catcher is not Oklahoma. Focker out!your just salty cuz you think there's more out there...................... Also, Checkmate is not jackie chan. Chan is not the general. the general is not checkmate so there fuckers.Also, Beta's barn is not a song.it was "described" that Beta's Barn is a song !!!!Yeah. I'm thinking that might have been in jest but maybe. I've seen the interview. I took it as a joke but who knows.
w6a6x6l6 Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 For the last time. Axl confirmed 12 songs. None of them were songs that are already released. End of story. Atlas is not scraped. Riad is not Oklahoma. Catcher is not oklahoma. Oklahoma is Berlin. Berlin is not Riad. Thus Oklahoma is not Riad. under the same logic Catcher is not Oklahoma. Focker out!your just salty cuz you think there's more out there...................... Also, Checkmate is not jackie chan. Chan is not the general. the general is not checkmate so there fuckers.Also, Beta's barn is not a song.I wonder if we will hear OMG and Silk Worms on CD II?I hope so kemosabee For the last time. Axl confirmed 12 songs. None of them were songs that are already released. End of story. Atlas is not scraped. Riad is not Oklahoma. Catcher is not oklahoma. Oklahoma is Berlin. Berlin is not Riad. Thus Oklahoma is not Riad. under the same logic Catcher is not Oklahoma. Focker out!your just salty cuz you think there's more out there...................... Also, Checkmate is not jackie chan. Chan is not the general. the general is not checkmate so there fuckers.Also, Beta's barn is not a song.it was "described" that Beta's Barn is a song !!!!Yeah. I'm thinking that might have been in jest but maybe. I've seen the interview. I took it as a joke but who knows.I read they were jamming in "Beta's barn " and Axl loved what they were doing so wanted it recorded ........................... now if there are vocals to it ?
tange Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 For the last time. Axl confirmed 12 songs. None of them were songs that are already released. End of story. Atlas is not scraped. Riad is not Oklahoma. Catcher is not oklahoma. Oklahoma is Berlin. Berlin is not Riad. Thus Oklahoma is not Riad. under the same logic Catcher is not Oklahoma. Focker out!your just salty cuz you think there's more out there...................... Also, Checkmate is not jackie chan. Chan is not the general. the general is not checkmate so there fuckers.Also, Beta's barn is not a song.I wonder if we will hear OMG and Silk Worms on CD II?I hope so kemosabee For the last time. Axl confirmed 12 songs. None of them were songs that are already released. End of story. Atlas is not scraped. Riad is not Oklahoma. Catcher is not oklahoma. Oklahoma is Berlin. Berlin is not Riad. Thus Oklahoma is not Riad. under the same logic Catcher is not Oklahoma. Focker out!your just salty cuz you think there's more out there...................... Also, Checkmate is not jackie chan. Chan is not the general. the general is not checkmate so there fuckers.Also, Beta's barn is not a song.it was "described" that Beta's Barn is a song !!!!Yeah. I'm thinking that might have been in jest but maybe. I've seen the interview. I took it as a joke but who knows.I read they were jamming in "Beta's barn " and Axl loved what they were doing so wanted it recorded ........................... now if there are vocals to it ? Yeah. There are probably a ton of those types. I'd love to hear em'. no telling if we'll be told if the working title changes as well. I just want some dang music to be released!
ColdHeartBreaker Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 There was something about Axl talking about a song that would appear on Chinese that was about child abuse? I cba to dig up quotes but its all coming back now.
Trilogy Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 That is only your opinion, we have no idea of what the man does or has done, whether he´s written tons of lyrics or not. He could have written thousands of lyrics and you wouldn´t know.^ THIS^ ,and in addition to be perfectly honest I don't think anyone cares about your ungrounded speculations about something you couldn't possibly know,people that write usually continue to do just that,its a drive,a passion,an outlet for pent up emotional chaos,really don't understand,nor care to what prompted and motivated you to start a topic like this,useless guesswork,unecessary crumbs of shit on the table aren't needed nor appreciated.It's not underground speculation you bitter fuck, it's simply an opinion..If people didn't have opinions to share on a guns n roses froum the place would be deader than it is and the band would simply be forgotten about..Continue not posting you shitheadThat the best ya got? First, you don't dictate my actions, Second, you don't pay my bills, Third, this isn't simply an opinion,it is instigation,and I will continue to post when and if I desire- Oh and here's where I'm supposed to call you a name,let's see how about you being a sniveling sneech with a scatterfucked brain,and I'd still be supporting GNR with or without "opinions" on forums,I reiterate this entire topic is speculative bullshit on a bolognia sandwich.
uzi your illusion Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 I had a thread i posted a while back documenting this exact thing, I would like to believe that if Axl had that much trouble with lyrics then he could rely on some of the other band members who are itching to contribute. He's a proud man but if that was what was holding back future material then i'm sure he could bring in the other guys to help with lyrics. Duff and Izzy wrote lyrics that Axl sang, this is as much a band as that one was so I don't think Axl would have a problem with that.
Sunn Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 I'm totally jonesing for a pro shot of the current band.Anybody let me know where I can buy a poster of the band?Thanks!
The Wicked Hand Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 I really hope it didnt take Axl over a decade to write the, IMO, diapointing, self indulgent, seemingly thrown together LYRICS. Chinese Democracy has some of the worse lyrics Ive ever heard. I really used to like Axls lyrics and still thinks his voice is unique and fierce. I dig the feel of the songs on CD and the guitar playing. Mabey if Axl would interact with people and get out and do something away from his circle of YESMEN and DO BOYS he would have something else to write about besides himself, The record hes putting out, SLASH, girfriends from the 80s and early 90s, or wars or political issues of a country he doesnt live in (which has plenty of problems to write about).
Changes Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) I really hope it didnt take Axl over a decade to write the, IMO, diapointing, self indulgent, seemingly thrown together LYRICS. Chinese Democracy has some of the worse lyrics Ive ever heard. I really used to like Axls lyrics and still thinks his voice is unique and fierce. I dig the feel of the songs on CD and the guitar playing. Mabey if Axl would interact with people and get out and do something away from his circle of YESMEN and DO BOYS he would have something else to write about besides himself, The record hes putting out, SLASH, girfriends from the 80s and early 90s, or wars or political issues of a country he doesnt live in (which has plenty of problems to write about).a) you have no idea how much Axl gets out. Just because he doesn't visit high profile events doesn't mean he sits at homeb ) you have no idea about what girlfriends he might write about, just because you KNOW of Stephanie and Erin doesn't mean the lyrics are about them and that they are the only girlfriends he's hadc) who are you to say what kind of political problems Axl is allowed to write about? Isn't it great with people who care beyond the stuff that directly effects them personally? Edited March 13, 2011 by Changes
Rovim Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) I doubt any lyrics have been wirtten. I think you're wrongAxl himself said he recorded vocals for unreleased songs in December (I think 2006 or 07).Brian May and Sebastian Bach both confirmed there are more songs with lyrics than just what was released.Edit: Bach also described Axl's singing on the General. Edited March 13, 2011 by Rovim
The Wicked Hand Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Yea Bach said axl played him like thirty songs and then?that time he brought that 20 song cd to the strip club. I doubt he would play people songs with no lyrics.
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