spunko12345 Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 People who say that cliched line about "One thing you can never accuse this band of is being boring", are wrong.I
Nick85 Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 For now, yes, it's pretty boring. But that can all change with a sudden announcement. Sad thig is, I think we all know what direction it's going to go at least for a while.
saber_ Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 NOW is the test of the true fan's mettle. Will you bitch and moan? Or will you persevere. That is the question you must ask yourself.
Apollo Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 It is boring. And frustrating as heck.I remember the good old days when bands put out albums every year. Then it was every two years. Now? It's not unusual for bands to put out albums every 4 or 5 years.I could care less about an axl-slash feud. I could care less who is in the band. I just wish Axl would put out music. If promotion, touring, finding somebody to back the next album is such a problem ....then release the back catalog of chinese democracy songs on ITUNES, where people will buy them. And call up everybody in the band and go meet up in some studio in the middle of nowhere for three or four months and record an ablum of new songs. It really is that simple.
scans n' copies Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 I've perservered as a fan for the better part of 25 years now. I'm ready to see the same---scratch that, I'll take even a little--- courtesy from a certain Mr. Rose. We as fans waited all those years for CD to come out and then got barely a whisper in promotion. "The label screwed everything up" is what we heard. Well, then dive in and FIX the screw up yourself like everyone else who has a boss or co-worker that messes up your project. It could have been so easy---When there hasn't been a US tour or any kind of performance (I know about Sturgis and fashion week, that doesn't count in my book) in 5 years, we are left to hope that surely they'll come here soon. Notice the word "hope". I have to use that because there is never any official word about anything and the people in the band that are willing to share info are not allowed to. The big-sunglasses-dude stuff goes down and we still get hardly an official word about ANYTHING except Ron coming on here being provoked into acting like a jerk. I have no idea how much of that stuff was true (but I suspect a great deal of it had some truth to it), or what Ron is really like, but the whole episode was just......I can't even think of the right word. Then "management" decrees that we can't talk about it any more. Wow. Will this post be deleted?I find it intriguing that Axl can find the time to come on here and rip apart a mod (not picking sides, I didn't and still don't care either way) over rumors of whether certain t-shirts are allowed at venues but can't find the time to drop a one line post about what's in the plans. Hell, send out a tweet, press release, use smoke signals, send telegrams, use morse code---it's just not that hard!I'm rapidly drifting off into "I don't give a damn" territory for the first time ever, and it's a shitty feeling. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm the only one. Here's to hoping something happens soon so I can feel foolish for writing all this!!Sorry for the long post, folks.
cineater Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 May I suggest some rock n roll reading to improve your rock history knowledge? Keith Richard's book is pretty good. Chapter 2 is kind of long but once you get past that. I'm getting "I am Ozzy". It's suppose to be pretty funny.This is a pretty good short story and worth getting more history on (Gotcha Axl--lol):Owsley Stanley, an icon of Bay Area counterculture in the 1960s and a longtime associate of the Grateful Dead, died Sunday in a car accident in his adopted home of Queensland, Australia, according to family spokesperson Sam Cutler. He was 76.Mr. Stanley had been driving to his home near the city of Cairns during a storm and lost control of the car, Cutler said. He died instantly. His wife, Sheila, suffered a broken collarbone.Known as "Bear," Mr. Stanley came to prominence as the first to manufacture LSD in quantity. Jimi Hendrix's "Purple Haze" was believed to have been inspired by a particularly potent batch of Mr. Stanley's product. The Dead wrote the song "Alice D. Millionaire" in his honor after a headline in a 1967 newspaper article referred to him as an "LSD Millionaire."Dead backerMr. Stanley was the band's first financial backer and briefly served as manager before taking on the sound engineer role. He created the first public address system specifically dedicated to music in 1966 and was responsible for the Dead's signature Wall of Sound.He was also instrumental in founding high-end instrument manufacturer Alembic Inc. and Berkeley's concert equipment maker Meyer Sound Laboratories, which retrofitted sound equipment for AT&T Park and, more recently, Zellerbach Hall.Many of Mr. Stanley's live recordings of the Dead were released as albums. Along with Bob Thomas, he also designed the band's famous lighting bolt skull logo, known officially as Steal Your Face."Bear, as we knew him, was one of my all-time biggest influences," Bob Weir, a founding member of the Dead, said in a statement. "Always, when I think of him, I think of the endless stuff he taught me or somehow made me realize; all stuff that I've been able to use to the benefit of countless people."Born Augustus Owsley Stanley III (he legally shortened his name in 1967) in Kentucky on Jan. 19, 1935, his namesake grandfather was the governor of that state from 1915 to 1919 and represented Kentucky in both the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate.Before enrolling at UC Berkeley in 1963, Mr. Stanley served in the U.S. Air Force and studied ballet in Los Angeles. He dropped out of school after one semester once he discovered the recipe for making LSD in the Journal of Organic Chemistry at a UC Berkeley library.1.25 million LSD dosesWhile working a technical job at KGO TV, Mr. Stanley started manufacturing large quantities of LSD. Bear Research Group reputedly made more than 1.25 million doses between 1965 and 1967, essentially seeding the entire modern psychedelic movement.His lab was raided in 1966 by Berkeley police, who thought they found methedrine. When the substance turned out to be something else, Mr. Stanley successfully sued the cops for the return of his lab equipment.He was arrested in 1967 at his secret lab in Orinda but didn't serve time until a 1970 pot bust in Oakland prompted a judge to revoke his bail. Mr. Stanley served two years at Terminal Island near the Los Angeles Harbor."I wound up doing time for something I should have been rewarded for," he said in a rare 2007 interview with The Chronicle's Joel Selvin. "What I did was a community service, the way I look at it. I was punished for political reasons. Absolutely meaningless. Was I a criminal? No. I was a good member of society - only my society and the one making the laws are different."Mr. Stanley became a naturalized Australian citizen in 1996, living off the grid with wife Sheila in the bush of Queensland. His decision to move to the tropical northern side of the country in the early '80s was based, in part, on his belief that global warming would lead to a new ice age and the region would be the most likely to survive.In recent years, Mr. Stanley made small gold and enamel sculptures and wearable art pieces, which he sold through his own website. He also used the site as an outlet to post personal essays and reminisces.Toxic veggiesMr. Stanley lived on an all-meat and dairy diet. He believed vegetables were toxic and blamed a heart attack several years ago on the broccoli his mother made him eat as a child. He lost one of his vocal cords to cancer in 2006."Bear, for me, was a true kindred spirit," Phil Lesh, the Dead's bass player, said in a statement. "When we first met, it was as if I had met a long-lost brother from another lifetime. I am heartbroken and devastated at his passing."Mr. Stanley is survived by his wife, Sheila; sons Pete and Starfinder; daughters Nina and Redbird; eight grandchildren; and two great-grandchildren.Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/14/MND41IAC74.DTL#ixzz1GjFbk9hk
cineater Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) And the guy who invented Jager, died (sorry I think the date is more like the end of February) at the age of 84. Several of our band members are in mourning.Please raise a shot glass to Günter Mast, who died last week of heart failure at 84 years young. Mast's tombstone should read, "Brought Excellence To The World One Bottle Of Jägermeister At A Time." Germans consider Mast a "marketing genius." Jäger's current boss says he's "one of the top businessmen our country has ever produced."And I thank Mast (on left in photo) for the inspiration to kick through a wall back in '95 just to pose through it, bottle of Jäger in hand. His other celebrated advertising campaign came in the form of a series of around 3,000 slogans beginning "I drink Jägermeister because ...", posters of which became collectors' items in Germany and beyond. The most infamous of these was one showing a pre-teen girl clutching a glass and the classic green bottle with the slogan "I drink Jägermeister because ... my dealer has been banged up."RIP, Günter. You done good. Edited March 16, 2011 by cineater
The Wicked Hand Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 I bet axl is tired of all the negativity, and I am too.I wish he wouldn't done something positive with the new to start off 2011 instead of pursuing this lawsuit about, you know who, being on a fucking game..... A game .
tomh Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 People who say that cliched line about "One thing you can never accuse this band of is being boring", are wrong.Iand probably weren't on here in 2004
Young_Gun Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 I've perservered as a fan for the better part of 25 years now. I'm ready to see the same---scratch that, I'll take even a little--- courtesy from a certain Mr. Rose. We as fans waited all those years for CD to come out and then got barely a whisper in promotion. "The label screwed everything up" is what we heard. Well, then dive in and FIX the screw up yourself like everyone else who has a boss or co-worker that messes up your project. It could have been so easy---When there hasn't been a US tour or any kind of performance (I know about Sturgis and fashion week, that doesn't count in my book) in 5 years, we are left to hope that surely they'll come here soon. Notice the word "hope". I have to use that because there is never any official word about anything and the people in the band that are willing to share info are not allowed to. The big-sunglasses-dude stuff goes down and we still get hardly an official word about ANYTHING except Ron coming on here being provoked into acting like a jerk. I have no idea how much of that stuff was true (but I suspect a great deal of it had some truth to it), or what Ron is really like, but the whole episode was just......I can't even think of the right word. Then "management" decrees that we can't talk about it any more. Wow. Will this post be deleted?I find it intriguing that Axl can find the time to come on here and rip apart a mod (not picking sides, I didn't and still don't care either way) over rumors of whether certain t-shirts are allowed at venues but can't find the time to drop a one line post about what's in the plans. Hell, send out a tweet, press release, use smoke signals, send telegrams, use morse code---it's just not that hard!I'm rapidly drifting off into "I don't give a damn" territory for the first time ever, and it's a shitty feeling. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm the only one. Here's to hoping something happens soon so I can feel foolish for writing all this!!Sorry for the long post, folks.Post of the fucken year.
rockerman Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 NOW is the test of the true fan's mettle. Will you bitch and moan? Or will you persevere. That is the question you must ask yourself.Wellllthere was the.....95 ,96,97,98Wait......there was the99, 2000 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08Wait............................That was fun...that was soooooo funthat was greatHeadlines: Guns and Roses fans contemplate retirement and shop for nursing homes while band is incognito following up thier experimental ecclectic record "Chinese Democracy."
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 The rest of “Chinese Democracy” should be leaked or released through iTunes in its entirety. I can't see the plausibility in securing a CD deal only to see spectacularly ordinary results.
saber_ Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 NOW is the test of the true fan's mettle. Will you bitch and moan? Or will you persevere. That is the question you must ask yourself.Welcome to a gnr forum. A lot of us have been dealing with this since roughly the year 2000 or longer. Dealing with what... exactly? Boohoo, GNR is low key and off the radar. I've been dealing with that since 1994, whattaya think of that buddy? And guess what, I'm over it. They released an album and did some touring. Boo hoo. Be sure to tell Axl that his band's purpose is to fill your every waking moment with music and entertainment and interviews and internet message board rants. Me, I'll just enjoy what happens, when it happens. You should know by now you're not going to psychically compel Axl to do your bidding. If it's so tough for you, then why are you here? :eyeroll:NOW is the test of the true fan's mettle. Will you bitch and moan? Or will you persevere. That is the question you must ask yourself.Wellllthere was the.....95 ,96,97,98Wait......there was the99, 2000 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08Wait............................That was fun...that was soooooo funthat was greatHeadlines: Guns and Roses fans contemplate retirement and shop for nursing homes while band is incognito following up thier experimental ecclectic record "Chinese Democracy."Meh you're a drama queen. Enjoy the shenanigans surrounding GNR. Lighten up, y'know? Or perhaps... you know.. go away.. if you don't like it.
UK SUBS Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 Get use to it - Could be a very long wait this time round me thinks!Of course, there COULD be a thousand exciting things just around the corner but with 'complications beyond normal control' there may be a small delay (of around, say, 4 years??)
Nick85 Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 I can't help but think Axl forsaw the clusterfuck of legal issues that were on the horizon when he batted away questions about the next album the last time he was asked about it. Starting to makes sense now. Darn.
The Wicked Hand Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 JUST SOME SPECULATION:Mabey Axl considers himself retired. He fufilled his record contract didn't he? And mabey he doesnt feel a retirement anouncement is nessesary.He will just do what he wants, when he feels like it.If this is the case then officially anouncing it would take away alot of the questions, negativity, speculating, and Axl bashing.Just a thought..............
Casual Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 They just toured for about a year straight. They are gonna want some time off. I know, I want them to tour the States. Everything has to be very calculated for this band. I'm still happy that I saw them in 2006. It would be cool to see them again later this year or early next year. I almost don't think they even need a new album to tour. They could go out and play the Appetite stuff and people would still love it.
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