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Hi all. First post here. Great site and I will definitely post more as I am a longtime fan.

Anyhow, I recently got a copy of Live ?!*@ Like A Suicide on eBay that I thought was legit from the photos, but now I am not so sure. Can anyhow help me identify it by the links below? I have higher res images if anyone needs them.

It has a narrow run out groove and the orange label is raised up in the middle as in the closeup on this site

http://www.ladydairhean.0catch.com/Axl/Guides/Suicide.htm

The inner sleeve is white and square, nor rounded in the corners as I have seen on some.

The outer jacket seems almost too clean. The guy I got it from says he got it when it came out and his feedback is really good, so it's possible if it was fake, he didn't even know.

the text on the back seems faded in parts and the image around Duff is a bit smudgly for lack of a better word.

Here are the links - any suggestions?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/jabbo5150/DSC_0332.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/jabbo5150/DSC_0331.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/jabbo5150/DSC_0330.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/jabbo5150/DSC_0329.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/jabbo5150/DSC_0328.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/jabbo5150/DSC_0327.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/jabbo5150/DSC_0326.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/jabbo5150/DSC_0325.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/jabbo5150/DSC_0324.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/jabbo5150/DSC_0323.jpg

Posted

Hi all. First post here. Great site and I will definitely post more as I am a longtime fan.

Anyhow, I recently got a copy of Live ?!*@ Like A Suicide on eBay that I thought was legit from the photos, but now I am not so sure. Can anyhow help me identify it by the links below? I have higher res images if anyone needs them.

It has a narrow run out groove and the orange label is raised up in the middle as in the closeup on this site

http://www.ladydairhean.0catch.com/Axl/Guides/Suicide.htm

The inner sleeve is white and square, nor rounded in the corners as I have seen on some.

The outer jacket seems almost too clean. The guy I got it from says he got it when it came out and his feedback is really good, so it's possible if it was fake, he didn't even know.

the text on the back seems faded in parts and the image around Duff is a bit smudgly for lack of a better word.

Attaching actual photos as that might be better. Hope someone can help.

DSC_0332.jpg

DSC_0331.jpg

DSC_0330.jpg

DSC_0329.jpg

More pics here:

DSC_0328.jpg

DSC_0327.jpg

DSC_0326.jpg

DSC_0325.jpg

DSC_0324.jpg

DSC_0323.jpg

Posted

Still hard to tell even with the good pics. A link to the original eBay posting would be most helpful. Thanks!

I wa having the same dilemma. here is the eBay link. I tried it as a tiny url, but that is apparently not allowed here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=330532110336&si=coJGYJkCPKNZns8U0s%252B4%252BjFVFHY%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Posted

Still hard to tell even with the good pics. A link to the original eBay posting would be most helpful. Thanks!

I wa having the same dilemma. here is the eBay link. I tried it as a tiny url, but that is apparently not allowed here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=330532110336&si=coJGYJkCPKNZns8U0s%252B4%252BjFVFHY%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Well, the seller seems legit based not only on feedback but on what else they are selling. For example if I saw that they were selling multiple copies I might be worried. Of course, all of this does not mean it's legit. It's really hard to know with this album. You could try contacting the folks at eil.com or maybe the people at Record Collector magazine. They might be able to tell you how to tell the difference. If they do, please let the rest of us know!

Posted

Still hard to tell even with the good pics. A link to the original eBay posting would be most helpful. Thanks!

I wa having the same dilemma. here is the eBay link. I tried it as a tiny url, but that is apparently not allowed here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=330532110336&si=coJGYJkCPKNZns8U0s%252B4%252BjFVFHY%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Well, the seller seems legit based not only on feedback but on what else they are selling. For example if I saw that they were selling multiple copies I might be worried. Of course, all of this does not mean it's legit. It's really hard to know with this album. You could try contacting the folks at eil.com or maybe the people at Record Collector magazine. They might be able to tell you how to tell the difference. If they do, please let the rest of us know!

Will do. I didn't want to accuse the seller of anything because the feedback was so good. I thought maybe if it wasn't legit, that maybe the seller didn't know either. He claimed he was living in LA at the time and got it when it came out, which if that were the case would of course mean it's real as I doubt there were any boots of it in 1986 as outside of LA, no one really knew who they were yet. I'll check those sites and see what they say. Thanks for checking out the pics. I do have higher res versions of them if that helps, but I did not post them so not to bog down the site

Posted

Still hard to tell even with the good pics. A link to the original eBay posting would be most helpful. Thanks!

I wa having the same dilemma. here is the eBay link. I tried it as a tiny url, but that is apparently not allowed here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=330532110336&si=coJGYJkCPKNZns8U0s%252B4%252BjFVFHY%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Well, the seller seems legit based not only on feedback but on what else they are selling. For example if I saw that they were selling multiple copies I might be worried. Of course, all of this does not mean it's legit. It's really hard to know with this album. You could try contacting the folks at eil.com or maybe the people at Record Collector magazine. They might be able to tell you how to tell the difference. If they do, please let the rest of us know!

looks like he has 3-4 for sale now. Like he said though this is a hard one to know if legit, just assume it is unless it is lies lol

Posted

Still hard to tell even with the good pics. A link to the original eBay posting would be most helpful. Thanks!

I wa having the same dilemma. here is the eBay link. I tried it as a tiny url, but that is apparently not allowed here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=330532110336&si=coJGYJkCPKNZns8U0s%252B4%252BjFVFHY%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Well, the seller seems legit based not only on feedback but on what else they are selling. For example if I saw that they were selling multiple copies I might be worried. Of course, all of this does not mean it's legit. It's really hard to know with this album. You could try contacting the folks at eil.com or maybe the people at Record Collector magazine. They might be able to tell you how to tell the difference. If they do, please let the rest of us know!

looks like he has 3-4 for sale now. Like he said though this is a hard one to know if legit, just assume it is unless it is lies lol

The guy on eBay? I just did a search and he doesn't have anything, Guns or otherwise for sale. Am I missing something?

Posted

Still hard to tell even with the good pics. A link to the original eBay posting would be most helpful. Thanks!

I wa having the same dilemma. here is the eBay link. I tried it as a tiny url, but that is apparently not allowed here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=330532110336&si=coJGYJkCPKNZns8U0s%252B4%252BjFVFHY%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Well, the seller seems legit based not only on feedback but on what else they are selling. For example if I saw that they were selling multiple copies I might be worried. Of course, all of this does not mean it's legit. It's really hard to know with this album. You could try contacting the folks at eil.com or maybe the people at Record Collector magazine. They might be able to tell you how to tell the difference. If they do, please let the rest of us know!

looks like he has 3-4 for sale now. Like he said though this is a hard one to know if legit, just assume it is unless it is lies lol

Still hard to tell even with the good pics. A link to the original eBay posting would be most helpful. Thanks!

I wa having the same dilemma. here is the eBay link. I tried it as a tiny url, but that is apparently not allowed here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=330532110336&si=coJGYJkCPKNZns8U0s%252B4%252BjFVFHY%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Well, the seller seems legit based not only on feedback but on what else they are selling. For example if I saw that they were selling multiple copies I might be worried. Of course, all of this does not mean it's legit. It's really hard to know with this album. You could try contacting the folks at eil.com or maybe the people at Record Collector magazine. They might be able to tell you how to tell the difference. If they do, please let the rest of us know!

looks like he has 3-4 for sale now. Like he said though this is a hard one to know if legit, just assume it is unless it is lies lol

The guy on eBay? I just did a search and he doesn't have anything, Guns or otherwise for sale. Am I missing something?

I think Gunsguy just looked at the completed listing page. Below eBay lists similar items to the one you bought, but not by the same seller necessarily. I think that's the mistake that Gunsguy made here.

Posted

Still hard to tell even with the good pics. A link to the original eBay posting would be most helpful. Thanks!

I wa having the same dilemma. here is the eBay link. I tried it as a tiny url, but that is apparently not allowed here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=330532110336&si=coJGYJkCPKNZns8U0s%252B4%252BjFVFHY%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Well, the seller seems legit based not only on feedback but on what else they are selling. For example if I saw that they were selling multiple copies I might be worried. Of course, all of this does not mean it's legit. It's really hard to know with this album. You could try contacting the folks at eil.com or maybe the people at Record Collector magazine. They might be able to tell you how to tell the difference. If they do, please let the rest of us know!

looks like he has 3-4 for sale now. Like he said though this is a hard one to know if legit, just assume it is unless it is lies lol

Still hard to tell even with the good pics. A link to the original eBay posting would be most helpful. Thanks!

I wa having the same dilemma. here is the eBay link. I tried it as a tiny url, but that is apparently not allowed here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=330532110336&si=coJGYJkCPKNZns8U0s%252B4%252BjFVFHY%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Well, the seller seems legit based not only on feedback but on what else they are selling. For example if I saw that they were selling multiple copies I might be worried. Of course, all of this does not mean it's legit. It's really hard to know with this album. You could try contacting the folks at eil.com or maybe the people at Record Collector magazine. They might be able to tell you how to tell the difference. If they do, please let the rest of us know!

looks like he has 3-4 for sale now. Like he said though this is a hard one to know if legit, just assume it is unless it is lies lol

The guy on eBay? I just did a search and he doesn't have anything, Guns or otherwise for sale. Am I missing something?

I think Gunsguy just looked at the completed listing page. Below eBay lists similar items to the one you bought, but not by the same seller necessarily. I think that's the mistake that Gunsguy made here.

Sorry guys your right, I looked quick without realizing it was not that seller :(

Posted

Still have no clue if this is legit or not. I e-mailed eil and record collector and never heard back. Anyone else? I can send full-size versions of the pics (about 2.5MB each) to anyone who PM's me. Thanks

  • 1 year later...
Posted

i bough my copy at eil, and it cost 150 GBP back in 2000. according to the description tha´s on that site, mine could or should be a copy too...so, i guess that there´s really hard to tell, and maybe not even eil or record collector know the difference. also, on the site the guy says that were made 25000 copies, but only 10000 were sold? what about the others? destroyed? kept in a warehouse? that´s probably why there are so many copies on ebay, because they were hold somewhere, and were later destributed somehow. that´s another reason for the condition being so good for most of them...or maybe were made 2 pressings, the first 10000, and rest just after it, once they were immediatly solt out. because, if they were sold out, and were made 25000, why sell only 10000? the story is not correcly told, i´m afraid...

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