billie Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) Can he keep touring a 2008 album?, an album in which most of the music was concieved in the 90's, and not having people believe that it is a "cash grab" tourIn three years since the release of the album , there has been no indication of a follow up albumAll it takes is a simple tweet from Axl... " Hey hope to have a new song out end of 2011 or beginning of 2012"Does anyone think that Axl has just understandblily just got fed up with the music business, what with all the legal turmoil and legal shit he has had to put up....that he will foever be bitter with the creative proccess and just tour and make music to to cover legal bills and his lifestyle expensesIs his creative fire gone? Edited March 29, 2011 by billie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 naw hes always been like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billie Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) I remember i think in2008 after the album was released, that he insinuated that a new album might be released same time nex year... he obviously has enough material to release a new album , but is reluctant to relase any new music .. Edited March 29, 2011 by billie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I don't know anything about his legal bills or expenses. But he must not have problems covering his legal bills because he makes 90 % percent them himself.As far as touring I cannot see why someone would call it a cash grab. He made the music weather it be old or nr gnr. He has a right to tour with it. Axl does what he wants to do. He is more than capable of making new music the question is does he want to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 no, though it do limit the number of topics he writes about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billie Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 I remember i tiihnk in2008 after the album was released, that he said he insinuated that a new album might be released same time nex year... he obviously has enough material to release a new album , but is reluctant to relase any new music ..Just because it hasn't happened, doesn't mean he's reluctant to. We don't know what obstacles can get in the way, or what goes on behind the scenes.But, there are a least three albums worth of material out there according to many sourcess within and without gun n roses...Are people okay with just a happy holidays updates form axl? and more chi9eese democaracy tours?... three years on from the last album... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Just because it hasn't happened, doesn't mean he's reluctant to. We don't know what obstacles can get in the way, or what goes on behind the scenes.except many many other artists put out music regularly. And that's complete with composing all new stuff. In this case it's all already written. If he wanted it out, it would be out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsys Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I think you're asking two different questions.1 Is he still creative - yes.2 Has the nonsense of the business beaten him - could be. Just means his creativity doesn't move past the studio. We lose.The nonsense of the business would have beaten me down long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigori Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Can he keep touring a 2008 album?, an album in which most of the music was concieved in the 90's, and not having people believe that it is a "cash grab" tourIn three years since the release of the album , there has been no indication of a follow up albumAll it takes is a simple tweet from Axl... " Hey hope to have a new song out end of 2011 or beginning of 2012"Does anyone think that Axl has just understandblily just got fed up with the music business, what with all the legal turmoil and legal shit he has had to put up....that he will foever be bitter with the creative proccess and just tour and make music to to cover legal bills and his lifestyle expensesIs his creative fire gone?I think he's touring on 1987 and 1991 albums. The setlists weren't all that much CD so I don't see how he was really touring under CD to begin with. I think he brought it all on himself to be honest. As far as why he hasn't released more music, I have no idea. I think he's waiting for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilogy Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 No billie, no indication of this conclusion you have come to,GNR does things in its own way,and being media darlings aren't in their agenda,sure there are the legal difficulties that the public is well aware of,and most likely more than have been made public,but sometimes tenacity and pure fucking stubborness,doing thing in your own way,in your own time,is integral and necessary,I admire this stance,to not buckle and cave when the going gets rough,It is also one of the reasons I have held GNR in such high esteem for so many years,and,will continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigori Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 He needs do an about-face away from the styles of Chinese Democracy. I think he needs a new inspiration and embark on a new musical journey. He could start by hating Buckethead and calling him a cancer and then write songs about his betrayal by Azoff and Activision. I estimate that the new concept album should take 15 years roughly to complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 umm, i have wondered if axl has "blackballed" himself throughout the industry. he has pissed off several people in high places. one has to wonder if his antics have not come back to bite him in the a**. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman007 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Im 50/50 , but dont think Axl has his creditibly. He has just made it very hard for the industry to take him serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naupis Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 He has just made it very hard for the industry to take him serious. He has largely always been a headache to deal with, but the industry is much more forgiving of or amenable to dealing with the crazy when you're the biggest band in the world like they were in the early 90's.Now though most likely he is viewed as being not worth the associated hassle of dealing with because there isn't near the upside in dealing with him there used to be to justify associated aggravation he often brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billie Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 Will mygnrforum.com fans keeps paying to see "chinese democracy tours" ... indefinitely...until ....(Axl gets to pay his ever lofting legal and other billls, lawyers, or his excentric , self indulgent lifesytle costs ) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicked Hand Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Mabey Axls tired of the process of writing and releasing. So instead of following up CD with a new disc the next two years after( like he stated), he decided to realease them say 4 or 5 years apart( so he doesn't have to go through his drawn out processes). So we will get the records, just not as he initialy planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigori Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I think I once read in the NY Post at some point that he was quoted in saying that he makes music for himself and not really others. Maybe he the music only so that he could hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsys Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Will mygnrforum.com fans keeps paying to see "chinese democracy tours" ... indefinitely...until ....(Axl gets to pay his ever lofting legal and other billls, lawyers, or his excentric , self indulgent lifesytle costs ) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicked Hand Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 So he doesn't has to go thru the process of WRITING, he spreads out the material for release that's already written, that's what I meant.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilogy Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 He needs do an about-face away from the styles of Chinese Democracy. I think he needs a new inspiration and embark on a new musical journey. He could start by hating Buckethead and calling him a cancer and then write songs about his betrayal by Azoff and Activision. I estimate that the new concept album should take 15 years roughly to complete.how would you possibly know what needs to be done,are you I'm the music industry,or informed in any conceivable way, my guess is no to both inquiries,Have you been taking imbecile lessons from someone like BBA? Sounds to me you are here to provoke,not to have a civilized conversatmion or get updates on GNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Im 50/50 , but dont think Axl has his creditibly. He has just made it very hard for the industry to take him serious.Yet they take Britney and the Biebster seriously. To me it's that they see $ signs with the GNR reunion they don't see with a new record. That's a roadblock that just never goes away. But now I see CD has sold more, so they may be thinking this isn't so bad but can they ever let go of that reunion pay day. I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilogy Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Will mygnrforum.com fans keeps paying to see "chinese democracy tours" ... indefinitely...until ....(Axl gets to pay his ever lofting legal and other billls, lawyers, or his excentric , self indulgent lifesytle costs ) ...I don't think you want an answer,I won't acknowledge that by attempting to answer,inflammatory bait is not needed nor wanted v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Axl does what he wants.And no, he's not beaten. You're just a drama queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilogy Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Axl does what he wants.And no, he's not beaten. You're just a drama queen.Seconded! Good call mindsaber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigori Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 He needs do an about-face away from the styles of Chinese Democracy. I think he needs a new inspiration and embark on a new musical journey. He could start by hating Buckethead and calling him a cancer and then write songs about his betrayal by Azoff and Activision. I estimate that the new concept album should take 15 years roughly to complete.how would you possibly know what needs to be done,are you I'm the music industry,or informed in any conceivable way, my guess is no to both inquiries,Have you been taking imbecile lessons from someone like BBA? Sounds to me you are here to provoke,not to have a civilized conversatmion or get updates on GNRwut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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