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I started out not liking Together through Life but now I'm into it.

It's never-ending with Dylan. I've been wanting to get Oh mercy and Shot of love forever. There's a three CDs for price of one on amazon you get Oh Mercy, Infidels, Time out of Mind.

Love and Theft is also great. Missisippi must be one of his best songs recently.

I saw him on his current tour, pretty heavy show, the backing band is awesome. It's like a real rock n roll band, they really kick the shit out of Honest with Me.

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Been listening to a lot of Nashville Skyline and New Morning is it? Top fuckin albums, i think Bob Dylans a stone cold fucking genius.

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He's probably tied with gnr now as one of my favourites, maybe even edging it. Most of the time (alternative) from the tell tale signes disc one is fucking incredible. I recommend it to all of you if you haven't heard it. Seen him twice now (third time next month) and hes pretty solid. Check out this recent boot of him live in shanghai...

http://www.mediafire.com/?8x6jo59in291bz5

http://www.mediafire.com/?bwbz1tc0wyan76t

http://www.mediafire.com/?a13soynaxul2t6t

split into three parts, courtesy of the expecting rain Dylan forum.

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I was at the Shanghai show. He does Tangled up in Blue like Street of Dreams. He was pulling stuff from all over. Opened with one off Slow Train Coming.

Funny he didn't even do Heavens Door or All along the Watch Tower. Tom Thumb and Rolling Stone the place exploded. It's kind of the Highway 61 tour in style. Didn't do Lay Lady Lay. I'd never really listened to Forever Young.

I've got Tell Tale signs it's pretty collection. Some days I just want to get all his albums.

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Funny, I've been listening to Dylan all day. :)

Blood On The Tracks and Time Out Of Mind - I could put on any song at any time and listen to it (maybe except You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome & Can't Wait). My two favorite albums by Dylan, no doubt, by miles. Blood On The Tracks in my top 10 by anyone, ever.

He's got everything basically - the folk anthems charged with strong political message (Times They're A Changing), the simple songs just a guitar soft vocal melody and a harmonica at some point (Girl From North COuntry), some more labored-on stuff (Working Man's Blues), and absolute fucking epics! (Idiot Wind).

Blood On The Tracks is a lot like Chinese Democracy - lot of venom, lost of disappointment, feeling of loss, paranoia. If you like CD and haven't heard ...Tracks, listen to this, seriously LISTEN TO IT! How good can this album be! Looked in my iTunes: Tangled Up In BLue, Idiot Wind and ...Jack of Hearts all among my most listened to songs, Tangled 3rd. :) Plus everything else: Shelter and Simple Twist are so amazing, Buckets, such a haunting song, there's that verse that ends in "misery", that's such a powerful verse, hits me like a sledgehammer to the face

I'm drinking Stella Artois Cidre, it's alrigh,t nothing special, i was expecting something alittle beter cuz I like Stella so much. But it's alright, Im' kinda rambling :) Completetly unrelated..

Everything else?

I don't like the debut, not my thing.

Second, Freewheelin Bob Dylan - now that's the shit! There's the obviosu Blowin In the wind, which is a strong track, not my favorite though. There's also Masters of war, which so many people seem to like so much, for some reason, I find it very overrated, form all points of view, immature rambling if you ask me. But then there's Hard Rain , Don't think twice, even Oxford Town is really good. With Hard Rain and Don't think twice there's such a beautiful melody... Same with The Times They're a Changing (album) : there's the title track which is really good, but then there's Boots of Spanish Lether, which is amazing AMAZING!! When the ship comes in, also really nice.

Another side of Bob Dylan - alright, nothing great about it though, other than Chimes of Freedom, that 's a really good one. Bringin It All Bacnk Home most of it is pretty shit to be honest :D, but then ending, with the acoutic tracks makes it worth it. Especially the last two: It's alright ma, I'mOnly bLeedin and It's all over now baby blue! two of his best, no doubt!! I may have mentioned this before but I'm only bleedin is so good SO GOOD, there' s something eriee about it, it seems to ring to the inside of your bones, you feel it vibrating through your boddy 20 mins after the song is over. And you 've got songs that so amazing, tow fucking master pieces one after the other!!! Absolute bliss!!

What's next? Highway61? or am I missing anything?> Highway is good ,but not that special really. There 's Desolation Row, of course, and i guess the other ballads are good Tom thumb's blues and the one with the train, what is it, Tkaes a lot to laugh, takes a train to cry? Yeah. .. Im not crazy about htis veriosn of Like a Roling Stone.. I much prefer the one The Stones did on Stripped, yeah I know apples and oranges, whole different monster, I just prefer that approach.

Then Blonde on Blonde? Again, a bit overrated?? Sure , Stuck Inside A Mobile :thumb up: and Visions of Johanna sounds real good sometimes and .. what was it... Just like A Woman!!! That's it!! And ,of course, the closer, Sad Eyed Lady of the lowlands!!! MAster fucking piece!!!

Honestly, I'm not crazy about that early 70 stuff, what was it? Nashville skyline, Planet Waves and something with Modern. Sorry, I'm kinda drunk... Anyway, lackluster, i've tried to listen to them a number of times but I just cant seem to like them.

Then there's Blood On The Tracks, which is too good to be tru.,e

Desire: what the FUCK is up with that voice?? I dont understand it, why the strange accent?? Some alright songs, nothing truly great, listenable overall.

Ive never listenend to the christian albums, I might give them a try at some point out of curiosity.

Infidels is okay, but the thing with the 80s albums, is they have nothing to keep me interested, the'yre alright as backgound music, but there's nothing there that captures my attention in any way. Mediocre. ONE EXCEPTION: OH MERCY> Oh Mercy fucking Rules!!!!

There's some stuff in the early 90s as well, isn't it? See above ^^

And then there's Time out of Mind!! So great !! SO GREAT!!! Even though all the ballads sound the same and all the non-ballads also sound the same, making the album basically variations of two songs, but they just sound so good! There's really carefully made music! No more loose and careless mucsicianship like on early electric albums or too simple just guitar + harmonica, now there 's real arangements! And it sounds amazing!!! same with the following albums. Basiclly starting with Time Out Of Mind you have I guess the best possible music you can get out of someone so long after their 'hit' years. Only Iron Maiden that I can think of right now can make consistently great, again: GREAT not good, music way late in their career.

I have to admit I'm not crazy about most songs on Love and Theft. But there's Mississippi. Mississippi is ... fuck I don't know how to describe it... just listen to it: http://www.goear.com...sippi-bob-dylan talk about epic... Plus Sugar Baby! Just two songs that I can say I really REALLY like off the album, but WHAT TWO SONGS!!

But then Modern Times is just mindblowing. And it's got some really good strong tracks on it, rockers, actual rockers! Thunder on the mountain, Rolling and tumbling! Ain't Talking and Workingman's blues are just wow! Epic, that 's the only word, And not necessary in the internet sense of thhe word, as in erally good, but as in epic songs! the kind that are grand in scope and sound!

Beyond here lies nothing and Its all good the one in '09 :thums up:

So what was I saying... there's everything.

A lot of people dismiss later parts of artists careeers , because a lot of people are fucking stupid.! Big mistake when it comes to dylan! Everything after and including Time Outof Mind!!! Listen to it!! just do yourself a favour and listen!!

Uhm... the voice... Many pick on the voice, and I can understand it! Fuck i have trouble going through Bringin it all back home myself, :D, and then there's that strange way he sings (it's an accent I gues?) on what was it.. the one after Tracks, DESIRE! yeah that one!! Weird voice on it, listen Romance in ... uhm.. soemthing I can't remember

But there 's such a different voice! Such a cool voice on his later album, an 'OLD' voice that sounds som amazing!! Why the fuck are'nt there any Dlyan songs on you tube????? Anyway, download Sugar Baby off torrents! and Workingman's Blues #2 and Not Dark Yet (off the post97 albums) , so different from his young days and so great!!

Guitar 's pretty nice too. That riff (i guess? i don't really know much about guitar, I still havent managed to understand what the fidderence bwteen a lick and a riff is , pother than a riff being at the beginning of a song :D) in Its' alright ma, that's just wow, literally wow, because you stop what ever you're doing and just go like 'what the fuck was that!' in a good way! as in I can't believe i just listened to something so good, even when you'velistened to it 1000 times. don't listen to that song if youre driving or you're an airplane pilot or something, you'll get people killed! and the riff ( again, riff?) at the start of Meet Me in The Morning!

What about the lyrics! :D Yeah, what about Dylan's lyrics!

I gotta say, It's Alright Ma is lyricaly my favorite songs I've ever heard.

And he's got this gift. I must have mentioned it before, I don't care much about lyrics as in what the singers sayin. ?More like how he's saying it. I mean: do the words SOUND good. I mean, voice is an instrument righT? make it sound nice, write words that have a music of theirr own, write proper rymes, makes cool sounding repetitions, give vrses an attractive structure (attractive? WTF>? ) And DYlan's a master at that! Fuck he's the best!!!

Only thing I 'd wish he'd try some other methods too: it seems like all his songs have verses that end in the song title or a lyric woth the title in it. There 's Idiot WInd that 's doesn't off the top of my head, Highlands I think too. what else... I can't remember right now...

Yeah, I like Bob Dylan

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Time Out Of Mind is awesome. Thoroughly heartwrenching. Surprised he still had it in him.

Can anyone explain to me why he all of a sudden became a Christian? After watching the Scorcese documentary on him it feels like everything he does is incredibly calculated, so Im a tad suspicious of his motives. I think Slow Train Coming, a Christian themed album, is excellent but authenticity is still an issue. Can anyone weigh in?

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I read Chronicles vol 1 and the reason he'schanges in my opinion is so that he can't be put in a cage. It's to throw people off. like how he got out of being activist by going electric. it's prob honest. he might just get bored.

Shot of Love is his favorite Dylan record. maybe it's the production he likes. I like some of songs in the Christian era. Like Gotta Serve Someone and Jokerman. I think he's a great song writer so he's writing about things rather than preaching. Also can't tell what he means.

Axl should cover Positively 4th Street.

I like latest stuff where he's just a New Orleans or Texas guitar man. Love and Theft is underrated.

Together through Life is perfect for summer gin hangovers.

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Dylan is a fuckin G.

That first album is fucking incredible. As i've come along i've heard the originals slowly but surely but this holds a special place in my heart. Bob Dylan honestly made one of the most immediate impressions on me ever. His first album i ever heard was Greatest Hits and i think the first song was blowing in the wind and it sounds really gay and corny but it made that much of a lasting impression on me that i can clearly remember that shit and i can't honestly say that about...particularly any other musician...well, one other. Whatever, point being, lasting impression! I just remember thinking wow this is really something, it's so wonderfully direct and shamelessly poetic and also kinda deliberately innocent i think, at least in a lot of the early stuff. But yeah, really an artist where i can say hearing him for the first time blew me away.

Freewheeling is fucking incredible, Masters of War, c'mon GTF, fucking legendary "and i hope that you die!" g'awn Bobby :lol: Hard Rain is just fucking incredible, the sorta song that makes me wanna try and write songs, it's the fucking shit. Corrina Corrina i think is the gem of this album though, the hidden gem, it's just a wonderful gentle relaxing song, like a lullaby.

Another Side is amazing too, i think its one of his most fucking underrated albums going, it's just fucking brilliant, joyous, humourous, warm...how can you not fall in love with All I Really Wanna Do? I remember being really impressed by the fact that he chuckles in the middle of it, don't ask me why :lol: It Ain't Me Babe, what a fuckin way of closing an album. Apparently this album was like a reaction to his being lauded as a fucking prophet or whatever and i guess i can see that, especially with It Ain't Me Babe but mostly with the fact that all the songs are really kinda jokey and fun and funny and...i dunno, i think it's an incredible example of well...another side? (see what i did there :D) Chimes of Freedom, FUCK ME!!!...a guy in his fuckin early 20s wrote that?!?!?! Motorpsycho Nitemare is hilairious :lol:

The Times They Are A Changin is a fucking mammoth collosal gargantuan fucking nuclear monstrosity of an album. Track for track it is pure fucking brilliance, there's not a song on it that could possibly possibly ever age, it's just fucking timeless and brilliant and poetic and hopeful and fresh and cutting and insightful i mean, Only A Pawn In Their Game, if that movie isn't the most fucking direct and concious and just completely on the button comment on society and understanding of his world i have ever heard of put to music, Ballad of Hollis Brown makes me wanna cry, it's just fantastic, Hattie Carroll too and With God On Our Side, it's social commentary but it has a conscience, it's just a brilliant album and so deeply of it's time but it transcends it time, it's just universal in its themes, it's a 100% perfect album.

Bringing It All Back Home is another 100% perfect one, track for track, it's a greatest hits compliation all of its own.

Highway 61, again...actually i'm not gonna get started on this or Blonde on Blonde or i'll be writing all fuckin day.

And his voice yeah, thats loads of peoples gripe with him, i think his voice is wonderful, it has such a warmth to it when he wants to lay it on, its a weird hoarse mellifulous quality to it, i hate when people point out his voice as a negative.

As for the rest of his albums i've never really listened to them except for John Wesley Harding and Nashville Skyline but my immediate impressions were kinda good, especially with John Wesley Harding which i thought was a cool little follow up and kinda cool too that he sorta dug his heels deep back in folk and then took off towards country, it just makes such sense for him to do that.

He's such a fuckin G, he like...the rest of the world might as well not be happening he's just Dylan and he's doing his shit and laying it down and fuck what else is going on.

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What song was that one that ends with "just something I learned back in England"? *something* #2 iirc. Such brilliant lyrics in that one, so funny!

Wasn't it i shall be free?

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I think vocally it's more about how he carries a line. the other thing he has in spades is heart. he goes anywhere with his lyrics. even vocally given his limitations on things like Lay Lady Lay it's so different to how you expect it to be.

What cracks me up tho is he's a bit of a loverman. he has so many songs about nailing chicks. on his latest he has a burning fever in his pants. He should have called his last record Houston Rockets.

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What song was that one that ends with "just something I learned back in England"? *something* #2 iirc. Such brilliant lyrics in that one, so funny!

Wasn't it i shall be free?

No. 10: http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/i-shall-be-free-no-10

"I was shadow-boxing earlier in the day

I figured I was ready for Cassius Clay"

Some funny lyrics in that one.

Dylan's an amazing artist. I have really gotten into his work the past few years and he's become my favorite artist. I just listen to his songs and stories and can't even imagine how someone can come up with some of that stuff. He's just a genius when it comes to song writing and can cover such a wide array of topics and moods without a drop off in quality.

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he was wailing on the harmonica live. but he BUTCHErED. Desolation Row. I don't mean a bit I didn't realize until about half way through. He had a double bass, it was like a jazz reinterptretarion. He even so how camouflaged the Desolation row line. mid set it would have been his Nov Rain.

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He changed rock music for the better the day he plugged in at Newport. You could say it was "punk rock" to do what he did with the band.

I just think everyone wound up upping the ante on songwriting, and gave people like Lou Reed and Jim Morrison to do their thing as singers, and bands like The Byrds made his songs radio hits, and folk groups like Simon and Garfunkel wound up using his producer Tom Wilson to re-record "Sounds of Silence" with electric guitar. Velvet Underground also used Tom Wilson.

Keep in mind most of his best known songs cover a 3 year period.

The Bootleg series are definitely worth owning, as are some of the concert recordings. I think one from '63 was released recently. The bootleg version of Basement Tapes are pretty great, too.

This one gets overlooked. But when he did the tour with Petty,it was prob. the first tour in ages where they forced his ass to play the songs as people knew them. Every time he plays with any other group, it sounds like he's playing & singing a whole other song. The band he has now is great, even though he's been sticking to keyboards through most of his shows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReQsRgQXgQY

There's a certain age you hit when "Blood on the Tracks" hits home. "Desire" is great, too.

On "Pawn Stars", one of the guys from the pawn shop "tracked down" Bob Dylan. But the album he brought with him was "Self Portrait", considered one of his all time worst (although "Dylan and the Dead" might be at the bottom) , but it was a lesson learned in not getting shit personalized if you're going to sell it.

My theory on the bike accident was this fear of being called for a draft (he was only in his mid 20s, it was the height of Vietnam, and wouldn't surprise me if the gov't wanted to make an example out of Dylan) tired of touring (you see it towards the end of "No Direction Home"). Only one or two people will ever know the truth, and maybe he'll write it in the book. People did a lot of crazy shit to get out of going to Vietnam.

GNR should've been at the Dylan 30th. If there was any time for them to do KOHD, that was the gig.

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Self Portrait was another example how he self sabotages to remain free. it was an extreme case. He perceived he was too big so he needed to throw up a bomb. Je was fucking with the critics. But it still sold pretty well.

In Chonicles he talks about why he was reinterpreting his old songs live basically he was bored and was just jaded by touring. It was the only way he could get through it. He tells story of walking down street in new Orleans and hearing some jazz and got inspired. He's basically just selfish as any good artist is.

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I think there's a strong element of careerism to Dylan. like he's not even legit folk singer. and when he first got noticed it was for a demo of some other guys songs. so even when he went Christian, I get the feeling like it's more a way to get up with Johnny Cash or just enter that Parthenon of spiritual rock. Right now he's a kind of south delta bluesman.

On together thru Life there's a song called I feel a change coming on which makes me laugh. make no mistake he still doing classic stuff now. Missisippi, Thunder on the Mountain, Beyond here lies Nothing.

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Mine probably more obvious. Highway 61 revisited, Blood on the tracks. Love and Theft is pretty great.

I've got a few compilations and best of which I listen to which just breaks up the albums so you have Bye and Bye next to Soon or Later.

I'm kind of going into the more obscure stuff now like Shot of Love which is meant to only good from 80s other than Oh Mercy. Want to check Infidels too.

Oh Sister is probably fav at moment.

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