The Only way to save the Guns N' Roses legacy is with a reunion.

[Ace Nova]

Now that I am no longer a mod, I can finally speak my mind (and the truth) about the way I feel about the current state of the band. Personally, I liked Chinese Democracy very much and thought it was a great album. A great Axl Rose album - not a Guns N' Roses album. Unfortunately, everyone other than the members of this forum and perhaps a few other hundred thousand people, thought it was a complete disaster. It didn't have to be that way. If Axl Rose would have been a little more un - anti-social around the release, promotion and touring associated with it, it would have been much more successful. Someone forgot to tell Axl that in this day in age, the music no longer sells itself, it just doesn't. And neither does his name alone nor the Guns N' Roses legacy.

I can't find any reason for the band not to reunite. If Axl Rose has the least bit of dignity left, he will forgive whatever issues he has with his former band mates and reunite the band. Not only will he be doing a service for his own self awareness but he will heal any wounds that have been caused by years of name calling, bashing, etc. Not to mention the fact that it probably be the best, most anticipated rock album and tour of the last 20 years.

Edited May 24, 2011 by Kasanova King

[ITW 2012]

I don't think it's ever going to happen because Slash won't accept Axl's late start times and I don't see Axl changing his ways when it comes to that. The best we can hope for is that Axl will reunite enough of himself to release CD II before we are all dead.

Edited May 24, 2011 by ITW 2012

[SunnyDRE]

Not to mention the fact that it probably be the best, most anticipated rock album last 20 years.

+1

No doubt a proper follow up the Illusion records would be the most anticipated rock album in my lifetime.

[Mastodonny]

Amen, brother!! If the Eagles can get back together then any band can.

[Deanmachine]

Now that I am no longer a mod, I can finally speak my mind (and the truth) about the way I feel about the current state of the band. Personally, I liked Chinese Democracy very much and thought it was a great album. A great Axl Rose album - not a Guns N' Roses album. Unfortunately, everyone other than the members of this forum and perhaps a few other hundred thousand people, thought it was a complete disaster. It didn't have to be that way. If Axl Rose would have been a little more un - anti-social around the release, promotion and touring associated with it, it would have been much more successful. Someone forgot to tell Axl that in this day in age, the music no longer sells itself, it just doesn't. And neither does his name alone nor the Guns N' Roses legacy.

I can't find any reason for the band not to reunite. If Axl Rose has the least bit of dignity left, he will forgive whatever issues he has with his former band mates and reunite the band. Not only will he be doing a service for his own self awareness but he will heal any wounds that have been caused by years of name calling, bashing, etc. Not to mention the fact that it probably be the best, most anticipated rock album and tour of the last 20 years.

totaly agree with this , chinese democracy is not a bad album but its just not guns n roses ,it dosent sound or feel like them , axl is just tarnishing the name with this new line up ,like you say apart from some fans on here the rest of the world dont give a shit ,radio stations round the world still play gnr everyday but not the new stuff ,guns n roses changed music in the 80,s and i really do think a reunion and a new full on album will do it again ,but sadly i just think axl is so far up his own arse these days that it will never happen ,also i think certain people around him wont let it happen ,but here,s hopeing

[Chewbacca]

It wouldn't be bad to see them reunite. But remember: a reunion would not be a guarantee that the next album will rock. Sometimes reunions will only bring more disapointment.

[axlfan88]

I hope there's a reunion soon.

It's the only way to have an acceptable version of Guns N'Roses. Axl is such a cunt.

Edited June 2, 2011 by axlfan88

[Towelie]

I can see things from Axl's side as well though... Slash has been publicly bad mouthing Axl for years now, so Slash is hardly helping the chances of a reunion.

[Deanmachine]

I can see things from Axl's side as well though... Slash has been publicly bad mouthing Axl for years now, so Slash is hardly helping the chances of a reunion.

yea maybe slash has been bad mouthed axl a bit ,but so what axl,s a grown up , slash hasnt said anything thats not true and that a million other people havent said about him ,axl is on an ego trip and and seems not to give a shit about the very people that made him a star , axl needs to make this reunion happen ,its all about him ,the other four will come on board he,s the one who needs to get off his high horse ,he is a great frontman but without the other four he is a bit of a joke , the sad thing is that he knows he,s the one and unless that changes he has always got the music industry in his pocket and can fund his musical fantasys , and it adds to his belief that he is the be all and end all of GNR , which the rest of the world know isnt so

[Use Your Delusion 1]

Axl's too fucked up in the mind for this to ever happen again imo

at the same time however I could see out of the blue a reunion occurring precisely because of the above point, Axl isn't exactly conventional

GN'R could have easy been as big and well regarded as AC/DC, shame it never happened

[Ace Nova]

I think Slash is more willing than Axl but as someone mentioned it would take a major change in Axl's behavior and personality for Slash to go along with it. Two of Slash's biggest issues have always been the late starts and Axl wanting the others to be his employees.

Here is the article about the last rumoured reunion where Axl was supposedly willoing to do it if the others signed over there rights to the music

http://www.4shared.c...ion_offer.html?

I also wonder if Axl would be willing to do what it takes to record a new album with the old band. Just can't see him getting into the studio at the same time as the other members. As izzy said in a 2001 Classic Rock interview

Mick Wall: A hypothetical question then: Axl's [solo] album flops, and he offers you all the chance to get back together - just like Aerosmith and Sabbath - would you do it? I mean, assuming Axl would be...

Izzy: "broke?" he cuts in, laughing. "I could hear the call." Goes into gruff Axl impersonation: "'You know, I've been, ah, thinking'. He talks really slow when he gets an idea like that. 'Aahhh, I've been thinking...' And I'd be thinking, 'He must be broke'," he chuckles. "That's how I imagine the call would go."

He said the band still get hopeful promoters trying to tempt them back together with promises of enourmous wedge. "Oh, yeah. Around the big millenium hype, for sure." Is he ever tempted? "Yeah, why not?" he chuckles, "A [one-off] gig would be easy, I'd think."

Mick Wall: What about an album, though? Now he really does laugh.

Izzy: "Well, you know what? It's funny cos like me, Duff and Slash - we could go in and make a Guns N' Roses record in a week. basic tracks. [but] vocals and leads [instrumentation] could take God knows how long..."

complete interview: http://www.chopaway....sicrock2001.php

I agree with Izzy in that I think a one off or a limited number of shows, like the Cream reunion, would work but can't see them doing a full blown tour or recording together again....just can't see Axl giving up that much control to the others to make it work longterm... .

I think convincing Axl and the rest to do a one off, maybe a few more shows would be somewhat plausible...then you never know what could happen, they might hit it off and then record and album with a full tour...keeping fingers crossed

[Angel345]

There's never going to be a reunion of the original band. Besides we're not in the 90's anymore. IMO it's not gonna work. I was an ardent GN'R fan back then but personally I like the new lineup better, Ashba & all. IMO the band has great potential but it has to be developed of course.

[Deanmachine]

There's never going to be a reunion of the original band. Besides we're not in the 90's anymore. IMO it's not gonna work. I was an ardent GN'R fan back then but personally I like the new lineup better, Ashba & all. IMO the band has great potential but it has to be developed of course.

the new band does have potential but not as guns n roses, no were not in the 90,s anymore but what are era of gnr are radio stations playing around the world today ?, dosent matter if its the 80,s 0r 90,s gnr ,thats all the real gnr fans want to hear ,my only beef with ashba and all is they are exploiting a name which dosent belong to them , of gnr fans around the world the current line up has about 5% backing everybody else wants slash,izzy,steven,duff,axl , i thnk only a abba reunion would make a bigger dent in music industry with gnr closely followed ,its got to happen

[axl8302]

Move on, let the orignal guns stay in the past where they belong.

[GNR123GNR456]

It won't happen.

I realize alot of people want a reunion, and I'm not opposing your opinion's. But, it's not being against an idea of a reunion as it is I just don't see how it can happen.

Slash is still seemingly against Axl's late start's and eccentric behavior. While Axl has not, and I don't think will ever change for anybody; Slash, fan's, media, anything. Duff, Izzy, and Steven have all patched thing's up with Axl, but it seem's like Axl has more of a bitter hatred for Slash, even going so far to call him a "cancer." Whether it's a feeling of betrayal or Slash manipulating the media and painting Axl the bad guy, it seem's like Axl has been against Slash for reason's that are beyond our knowledge.

Slash may not seem the same, but I think that's because Slash has had a successful career and left on sort of a high-note by the sense that he left instead of having Axl leave. If Axl left and started a new band named Guns N' Roses, I think Slash would feel the same feeling's Axl feel's today.

I think the relationship between Axl and Slash is a bitter and distasteful thought-process and I think Axl just want's to leave him behind and move forward, and I think that's why he refered to him as a "cancer."

Both Slash and Axl have moved on with their lives and have had very sucessful career's as seperate entities. I think it would be in the best sense to allow them to continue to do what they want to do, and hope for the best. If they ever feel like their ready to commit themselves to having a reunion tour, then that'll be the day. But, until then I think it's in our best as fan's to appreciate both of them and their accomplishment's and continue to support them both and not have a bitter disdain for one member becuase "one is'nt as good without the other." Nobody know's but the member's themselves as to what happened with the break-up of the orignal band, and even though both Axl and Slash have not taken much blame for the break-up, I think it's a bit disrespectful to bash a human being just becuase you assume he is all the blame for the break-up, whether it be Axl or Slash.

[Ace Nova]

There's never going to be a reunion of the original band. Besides we're not in the 90's anymore. IMO it's not gonna work. I was an ardent GN'R fan back then but personally I like the new lineup better, Ashba & all. IMO the band has great potential but it has to be developed of course.

the new band does have potential but not as guns n roses, no were not in the 90,s anymore but what are era of gnr are radio stations playing around the world today ?, dosent matter if its the 80,s 0r 90,s gnr ,thats all the real gnr fans want to hear ,my only beef with ashba and all is they are exploiting a name which dosent belong to them , of gnr fans around the world the current line up has about 5% backing everybody else wants slash,izzy,steven,duff,axl , i thnk only a abba reunion would make a bigger dent in music industry with gnr closely followed ,its got to happen

I agree. Guns N' Roses isn't Poison, Warrant or Motley Crue - too many people categorize them with those bands but fail to realize that G N' R's (original lineup) worldwide following crushes those bands in comparison. Guns N' Roses is the Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones and the Beatles (yes, I said it) of the 80's and early 90's. A real reunion would be the biggest band reunion of this millennium.

Edited June 18, 2011 by Kasanova King

[dalsh327]

Bands have publicly bad mouthed each other in interviews and still got back together.

Van Halen got together for a few months in '97, then broke up at the VMAs. They bad mouthed each other, yet in 2000, rehearsed some songs, but when it came time to put it on paper, Roth didn't like the deal and walked out. But they stopped bad mouthing each other. In 2007, they decided to reunite because Ed's son wanted it to happen. Ed had no intention of reuniting, neither did Dave. But they weren't recording new music, Ed was producing porn movies, and Dave had just failed at being a radio personality. They had money, but I just think that they realized if they were going to do it, now was the time. 3 years later, they've finished up new music and planning another tour.

The only thing stopping a GNR reunion would be on the legal end of things. Axl and Slash haven't seen each other in over a decade. Axl has met with everyone but Slash over the past decade.

It took Roger Waters and David Gilmour close to 25 years to have a normal conversation with each other.

[Guest Len B'stard]

i think a reunion is a fucking dreadful idea. why, why do that, why go backwards, why go in reverse, why do that, what can possibly be achieved? What, you reckon their gonna make music like Illusions and Appetite? Well then you're thick. That was then, this is now, anyway, i liked Chi Dem, it's a good album, it's interesting, it's going in an interesting direction. Yeah it ain't gonna change the fuckin world but that whole world changing shit about albums almost always has absolutely nothing to do with the music and all about imagery, iconography, context and the time in history that they occur. Not that music can't change the world, it's more subtler than that.

It's just ridiculous, to take 4 or 5 or whatever many people from 20 or whatever years ago and sling em back together after all them years living and expect them to pick up from where they left off, styles change, tastes change, directions people wanna go in change.

I say this over and over and over and over and over and i dunno if anyone cares but here goes. Musical chemistry is a beautiful and very rare thing. When you find a set of musicians who just fuckin lock in together, who get each other and the resultant product is of a suitably high quality, there is absolutely no fuckin value high enough you can put on that, it's something so precious, it's something you gotta have respect for and nurture and wake up every day and thank God for. It's absolutely priceless. The problem is, very few musicians get this and the ones that do forget once they get a few quid in the pinny. It's so precious though and they ALL always fuck it up and like...it ain't there forever...it's you and them and where you're at as people/human beings/musicians/writers and EVERYTHING just fits and works, mess with the configuration of that a little and it's gone. That thing you have, that chemistry only remains intact by nuturing it, by making albums together, by playing together, by being together, by your musical growth being linked in someway and informed in someway by your musical partners musical growth.

You can't just stop for fucking 20 years and then get back together and expect it to work the same way, it won't, you ain't those people doing that thing in that time and place anymore, you didn't grow together, you ain't a unit anymore.

It's something so precious and every musician on earth gets fucking arrogant and has no respect for it and fucks up a good thing, like The Clash did, like The Who did after Moonie died, like Guns did and like The Stone Roses did. If you think about it mathematically, it's soooo much of a long shot for two random people to fit musically...the odds must go into the bajillions when it's four or five people, odds-wise it's probably something akin to winning the lottery, don't fuck with it, if it means enough for you to be attached enough 20 years down the line to get back together why break up in the first place?

Alls they're gonna do is embarass themselves and taint the legacy of a pretty decent fuckin little band. It's gone, it's done, i'd rather Axl carried on doing what he was doing and Slash and everyone else too.

Bottom line, you gotta have respect for the chemistry and for the resultant music that comes out. If you don't, well then you fuck it up. People get egos and think rhythm or bass players or whatever are like...interchangeable but fuck that shit, drummers, anybody, EVERYBODY is important. You can't just put someone in Adlers stool and expect the same shit to come out, each musicians has a style, something that influences the sound, a way of holding the sticks, a way of strumming, a way of leaning into a certain chord or bending a string a certain way or...y'know what i mean, whatever and when all those disparate thingies all come together to make something cool and good and musical and memorable, THATS chemistry and it's like the most important lesson ever for any band on earth ever ever.

A photocopy is never quite the same as the original.

Guns N' Roses is the Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones and the Beatles (yes, I said it) of the 80's and early 90's.

nooooooo, see i think you'll find those bands were a helluva lot more than Guns n Roses ever could've been. Especially The Beatles and Stones but definitely Zeppelin too, the comparison is ridiculous.

Edited July 12, 2011 by sugaraylen

[Dazey]

Now that I am no longer a mod, I can finally speak my mind (and the truth) about the way I feel about the current state of the band. Personally, I liked Chinese Democracy very much and thought it was a great album. A great Axl Rose album - not a Guns N' Roses album. Unfortunately, everyone other than the members of this forum and perhaps a few other hundred thousand people, thought it was a complete disaster. It didn't have to be that way. If Axl Rose would have been a little more un - anti-social around the release, promotion and touring associated with it, it would have been much more successful. Someone forgot to tell Axl that in this day in age, the music no longer sells itself, it just doesn't. And neither does his name alone nor the Guns N' Roses legacy.

I can't find any reason for the band not to reunite. If Axl Rose has the least bit of dignity left, he will forgive whatever issues he has with his former band mates and reunite the band. Not only will he be doing a service for his own self awareness but he will heal any wounds that have been caused by years of name calling, bashing, etc. Not to mention the fact that it probably be the best, most anticipated rock album and tour of the last 20 years.

This band isn't Guns and Roses but a reunion won't do anything to rescue the band's legacy I genuinely think it's to late for that but I like some of the new stuff so I'm not craving a reunion.

Now that I am no longer a mod, I can finally speak my mind (and the truth) about the way I feel about the current state of the band.

I found this part of your post to be more interesting than any other though. Why would your previous status as a mod mean you were unable to voice your opinion on the band? I know what a lot of people think about the whole situation with Eric but I didn't know the mod team were under orders not to voice their true opinions.

[Guest Len B'stard]

honestly, you lot are like the ACLU sometimes, obviously it stands to reason that mods of a forum that have ties to the band ain't gonna be like, y'know, it ain't exactly prudent for them to go around sitting on sides of the fence that the band (or Axl) might get wound up by. It sounds like kowtowing which, i suppose it is but it's to be expected i mean, you're either onside or you ain't and if you're onside, the correct place for your criticisms of the band probably isn't a public forum.

[Powerage5]

Now that I am no longer a mod, I can finally speak my mind (and the truth) about the way I feel about the current state of the band.

I found this part of your post to be more interesting than any other though. Why would your previous status as a mod mean you were unable to voice your opinion on the band? I know what a lot of people think about the whole situation with Eric but I didn't know the mod team were under orders not to voice their true opinions.

We're not.

[Dazey]

Now that I am no longer a mod, I can finally speak my mind (and the truth) about the way I feel about the current state of the band.

I found this part of your post to be more interesting than any other though. Why would your previous status as a mod mean you were unable to voice your opinion on the band? I know what a lot of people think about the whole situation with Eric but I didn't know the mod team were under orders not to voice their true opinions.

We're not.

...and yet one of you just deleted my post about the forum losing credibility? If that's the case then why did KK say what he said and why delete my post?

[Powerage5]

Now that I am no longer a mod, I can finally speak my mind (and the truth) about the way I feel about the current state of the band.

I found this part of your post to be more interesting than any other though. Why would your previous status as a mod mean you were unable to voice your opinion on the band? I know what a lot of people think about the whole situation with Eric but I didn't know the mod team were under orders not to voice their true opinions.

We're not.

...and yet one of you just deleted my post about the forum losing credibility? If that's the case then why did KK say what he said and why delete my post?

I can't speak for KK, I honestly don't know what he's talking about. I deleted your post to avoid another useless argument which derails a perfectly good thread. If you have a problem with how the forum is run, complain about it in the Support section.

[Dazey]

I can't speak for KK, I honestly don't know what he's talking about. I deleted your post to avoid another useless argument which derails a perfectly good thread. If you have a problem with how the forum is run, complain about it in the Support section.

I don't particularly have a problem with how the forum is run I just thought that an ex mod admitting he was unable to speak his mind was a little odd and I replied to his post in the thread he posted it in. I mean it was the first thing he said in the thread so I didn't see it as being off topic or taboo particularly.

Edited July 14, 2011 by Dazey Does Dallas

[hbkhbk]

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