ITW 2012 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Is it critical that CD II has a hit song? I think it's essential to the future of New GNR that CD II has a hit song right out of the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justmike66 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Is it critical that CD II has a hit song? I think it's essential to the future of New GNR that CD II has a hit song right out of the gate. CD 2 ? US TOUR ? , boy have i missed alot , when is CD 2 comming out ? and when is the USA tour ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Nah. They don't need to be popular outside of the hardcore fanbase really, they're going to make a shit load of people happy with whatever they release, it will still be meaningful even if the singles don't chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuddMckagan Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 For it to be considered a great success and launch GnR back into the limelight? Yes.For anything else, nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted August 8, 2011 Author Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) For it to be considered a great success and launch GnR back into the limelight? Yes.For anything else, nah.That should be the goal. If he just wants to trade off the past he'd be better off reuniting the original band and making a whole pile of money off a reunion tour. Edited August 8, 2011 by ITW 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 For it to be considered a great success and launch GnR back into the limelight? Yes.For anything else, nah.That should be the goal. If he just wants to trade off the past he'd be better off reuniting the original band and making a whole pile of money off a reunion tour.I am surprised he's making $ off the use of "Live and Let Die" for that new Simon Cowell show's tv commercials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 It can't hurt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 If you want them to get bigger, then yes, of course...Axl promoting the new players is critical too but I don't see him doing that at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I...have to admit that if Bumble was also in charge of the vocals, albums would get written and released. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpi Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) it will more likely have shit song(s) on it Edited August 8, 2011 by Cpi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 If you want GnR to be a discussed topic in the general media, yup! They need a hit song, and it would be better for them if it sounded like classic GnR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul_Player_91 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) I'd say yes and I'm of the opinion that that's one of the reasons why he hired Ashba, I'm sure he and Ashba could pen a huge hit. That being said it doesn't really bother me if they do or don't release a hit song that would get tons of radio play but it would be great to see GN'R back on top and not getting overly criticized all the time. I always wondered why the ballads off CD weren't radio hits seeing as how mainstream radio stations play the hell out of November Rain. Edited August 8, 2011 by LesPaul_Player_91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Nah. They don't need to be popular outside of the hardcore fanbase really, they're going to make a shit load of people happy with whatever they release, it will still be meaningful even if the singles don't chart.Yeah, what Sweetness said. I think you get to a certain point as a band where like...if Queen were around today or like, y'know, when The Stones make an album, it's gonna sell a certain fuckin amount no matter what. Paul McCartney you can put in that category too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted August 8, 2011 Author Share Posted August 8, 2011 Nah. They don't need to be popular outside of the hardcore fanbase really, they're going to make a shit load of people happy with whatever they release, it will still be meaningful even if the singles don't chart.Yeah, what Sweetness said. I think you get to a certain point as a band where like...if Queen were around today or like, y'know, when The Stones make an album, it's gonna sell a certain fuckin amount no matter what. Paul McCartney you can put in that category too.This isn't old GNR though. The next album could completely tank if it doesn't have some hit songs. I'm just worried that the next album will tank and North American promoters won't have any interest in taking the risk of backing a New GNR arena tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofine11 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 GNR could put out a badass, epic, tune...But without propper promotion and the support of the label it probably won't fare that well on modern rock charts.Hell, Better is an amazing rock track, but as we saw without the support of the industry, lack of a video, Axl, etc. it became just an obscure single. Same would happen with an awesome track from CD2 if it was simply put out on the radio. These days, and very unfortunatly, it takes a lot more than a song simply being "awesome" for it to do well on a commercial level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 GNR could put out a badass, epic, tune...But without propper promotion and the support of the label it probably won't fare that well on modern rock charts.Hell, Better is an amazing rock track, but as we saw without the support of the industry, lack of a video, Axl, etc. it became just an obscure single. Same would happen with an awesome track from CD2 if it was simply put out on the radio. These days, and very unfortunatly, it takes a lot more than a song simply being "awesome" for it to do well on a commercial level.It was like that before too. Jungle did not succeed initially, and that had a video, band promo etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofine11 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 ,GNR could put out a badass, epic, tune...But without propper promotion and the support of the label it probably won't fare that well on modern rock charts.Hell, Better is an amazing rock track, but as we saw without the support of the industry, lack of a video, Axl, etc. it became just an obscure single. Same would happen with an awesome track from CD2 if it was simply put out on the radio. These days, and very unfortunatly, it takes a lot more than a song simply being "awesome" for it to do well on a commercial level.It was like that before too. Jungle did not succeed initially, and that had a video, band promo etc.Yeah, it all comes down to the label backing whatever they're trying to sell to the masses these days. My guess is that any promotion for CD2 would be minimal, and that Axl would have to do a good deal of marketing himself. I doubt he's willing to do that. That's also why I'd love to see a late-fall release coincide with the U.S. tour. Can you imagine a States tour, new album, & video all happening in the same 3 month time span? Pretty unreal right?That said, if GNR fans had a dime for every time a great opportunity came and went we'd all be millionaires by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 it will more likely have shit song(s) on itIs that cupcake poll still open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Nah. They don't need to be popular outside of the hardcore fanbase really, they're going to make a shit load of people happy with whatever they release, it will still be meaningful even if the singles don't chart.Yeah, what Sweetness said. I think you get to a certain point as a band where like...if Queen were around today or like, y'know, when The Stones make an album, it's gonna sell a certain fuckin amount no matter what. Paul McCartney you can put in that category too.This isn't old GNR though. The next album could completely tank if it doesn't have some hit songs. I'm just worried that the next album will tank and North American promoters won't have any interest in taking the risk of backing a New GNR arena tour.It won't tank. It may not be old GNR but just by the fact its under the same moniker will get it guaranteed attention from the media and critics. No matter what the reviews are people who give a shit are going to give the album a shot, if the music is any good it will resonate just anything else. This is a different age than old GNR, you don't need to dominate the charts to be relevant anymore, the internet has blown the music world wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 The notion that you need a hit or hits to launch a successful tour is completely false. How do you explain bands like Dave Matthews, Phish, Muse, and Radiohead. Neither of these bands have had top ten hits in years, if ever, and still have an enormous draw whenever they tour. Guns N' Roses has a deep enough catalogue to tour for years on end. People do not look to GNR for relevant new music anymore, that was 20 years ago. Axl is free to do whatever he wants, and I think he's a brilliant song writer and performer. But the pop world at large is not waiting with baited breath for a re-emergence of Axl and the current version of Guns N' Roses. I'm a fan of the new band and am happy with the production they've given fans since 2002, but if GNR is to ever be considered in the same league as U2, the Rolling Stones, and AC/DC, Axl would have to reunite with the original members. It could be done, but the parties involve all choose not to (with the exception of Adler). If no one in the original band seems to care about the former glory of Guns N' Roses, I'm not sure why anyone here should either. Just enjoy whatever comes our way.Cheers,Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packersnroses Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I...have to admit that if Bumble was also in charge of the vocals, albums would get written and released. lolThat would be cool if Ron sang lead vocals on a song or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofine11 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) To be respected as their own band, and not a band that just relies on the classic tunes to stay relevant, then yeah, id say so.Agreed. Axl hates being compared to the old lineup(s), but releasing 1 unpromoted album in 20 years while touring sporadically throughout that time with a revolving door of guitarists doesn't exactly help that cause.Even so, the masses have a short memory and everyone loves a comeback. I really believe that if they release the next album promptly, and throw in some real promotion this time around, I'm sure all will be forgiven. Edited August 8, 2011 by sofine11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auad Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 the question is: why not hit songs from new gnr?me and a lot of people want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 the question is: why not hit songs from new gnr?me and a lot of people want it.My bet (unfortunately) is we'll have potencial hits like Better and TWAT that due to lack of promotion and publicity, won't get to shine as hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailaway Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Even if the better video had been released, wasn't it just clips of the band from previous tours? Didn't really seem like it was carrying much of a "wow" factor anyways.Most people I know don't care about music videos anymore. If it's on the radio, and it catches enough ears, that's really how you get a hit nowadays. From what I've noticed, the popularity of music videos seemed to have died with trl. I can't remember the last time I heard somebody say, "have you seen so and sos new music video??"You don't know what is/was on the Better video,so how can you say it lacks a wow factor? We used to have an actual MTV that played vids,we also had headbangers ball!Personally I do not care what your "friends" think,or if they think it all. Most of the stations in the US are owned by clearchannel,except some of the indy stations usually found on college campuses. BoBo stop giving into peer pressure and listen to what you want.it may not be popular or on the charts,but its all about music I can relate to.Regardless of critics,journalist's slant,or charts. I can name an entire catalogue of obscure music that I listen to and play on a daily basis. If GNR has a hit single,I hope it leafblows all the current music straight to hell. Edited August 8, 2011 by sailaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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