CD > AFD

[sailaway]

With CD, Axl has fulfilled his promise to outdo AFD.

This is the conclusion I have come to.

Clearly, CD and AFD are different beasts created in different eras.

But musically, CD is much better than AFD. From a musician point of view, CD blows AFD away. Anybody could cover the songs on AFD with ease. CD is not so easy to cover.

The lyrics on CD are also much more matured than on AFD. Obviously, a more grown up, wiser, and mature Axl will give your more mature lyrics.

Of course CD is not going to outsell AFD. But that's because of timing and a different era. When AFD was released, it was simply the right album for the generation of young people at the time.

CD lyrically is not going to speak to the mass population of young people today, simply because Axl is from a different era.

More fans may be able to sing along to the songs on AFD than on CD. But musically, musicians will find CD to be much more influential.

For these reasons, I truly honestly believe that CD is much better than AFD.

What do you think and why?

Dayze

Is that the 400 lb Porn model,that slash was sexting,during his separation??? The same one perla kicked in the stomach?/

I love BOTH AFD and the UYIs,and CD,there is no rules that state you can't like them all..

Edited September 4, 2011 by sailaway

[Coma16]

Track versus track is always illogical. It makes more sense to do the best songs versus the worst songs. I'm trying to figure a way to write just why it's illogical. I'm not the best at explaining things, which is why I could never be a teacher.

And yeah, it's based on luck. A song had the chance of being up against another song.

Plus add in how Rhiad was taken out....

[Guest siliconmessiah]

So Album-wise, Chinese Democracy wins.

Says the member who joined a week ago.

CD is good.

But your conclusion and purpose on this board is fucking trolling.

[wasted]

I think what CD has that AFD doesn't is the epics that became prominent on UYI. CD is comparable to the GH but with a more artistic, original slant.

[Kill Devil Hill]

Track versus track is always illogical. It makes more sense to do the best songs versus the worst songs. I'm trying to figure a way to write just why it's illogical. I'm not the best at explaining things, which is why I could never be a teacher.

And yeah, it's based on luck. A song had the chance of being up against another song.

Plus add in how Rhiad was taken out....

That, too.

Okay, here's an example of why this method is screwy. Let's lake Number of the Beast and No Prayer For the Dying by Iron Maiden. Number has a couple of huge fan favorites, fantastic songs reputed as some of the best Maiden songs ever. Aside from that, it's also got some tracks that some people don't give a crap about (Gangland, Invaders, etc). No Prayer has lots of pretty good songs, but none that stand out enough for a lot if people (I actually love that album, so I'm not hating on it). If you put these two albums against each other track by track like that, No Prayer will win due to its consistency, yet Number is the album that a lot of people consider the best and No Prayer is the album a lot of people consider the worst. You see what I'm saying?

You gotta take into consideration HOW MUCH BETTER the song is, how cohesive the album is, how the album makes you feel during and after the listen, etc.

And you can't just leave off a track like Riad...

[curmudgeonrose7]

Track versus track is always illogical. It makes more sense to do the best songs versus the worst songs. I'm trying to figure a way to write just why it's illogical. I'm not the best at explaining things, which is why I could never be a teacher.

And yeah, it's based on luck. A song had the chance of being up against another song.

What the f*** are you talking about?

Okay dog. Let's try something different... Best track of Appetite for Destruction vs best track of Chinese Democracy.

The final showdown!

Sweet Child O' Mine vs There Was A Time

NO CONTEST! There Was A Time wins easily. Still now, Chinese Democracy wins.

How about we do worst track of Appetite for Destruction vs worst track of Chinese Democracy?

Anything Goes vs If The World

If The World is by far a greater song... So Chinese Democracy wins again.

I love both albums and I love Guns N Roses, but if we need to choose one album, it is proven that Chinese Democracy is the best album by GNR.

[Coma16]

Track versus track is always illogical. It makes more sense to do the best songs versus the worst songs. I'm trying to figure a way to write just why it's illogical. I'm not the best at explaining things, which is why I could never be a teacher.

And yeah, it's based on luck. A song had the chance of being up against another song.

What the f*** are you talking about?

Okay dog. Let's try something different... Best track of Appetite for Destruction vs best track of Chinese Democracy.

The final showdown!

Sweet Child O' Mine vs There Was A Time

NO CONTEST! There Was A Time wins easily. Still now, Chinese Democracy wins.

How about we do worst track of Appetite for Destruction vs worst track of Chinese Democracy?

Anything Goes vs If The World

If The World is by far a greater song... So Chinese Democracy wins again.

I love both albums and I love Guns N Roses, but if we need to choose one album, it is proven that Chinese Democracy is the best album by GNR.

SCOM is one of the best songs ever.... Nuff said...

ITW isn't the weakest song off of CD either. It's all a matter of opinion as well....

[sailaway]

With CD, Axl has fulfilled his promise to outdo AFD.

This is the conclusion I have come to.

Clearly, CD and AFD are different beasts created in different eras.

But musically, CD is much better than AFD. From a musician point of view, CD blows AFD away. Anybody could cover the songs on AFD with ease. CD is not so easy to cover.i

The lyrics on CD are also much more matured than on AFD. Obviously, a more grown up, wiser, and mature Axl will give your more mature lyrics.

Of course CD is not going to outsell AFD. But that's because of timing and a different era. When AFD was released, it was simply the right album for the generation of young people at the time.

CD lyrically is not going to speak to the mass population of young people today, simply because Axl is from a different era.

More fans may be able to sing along to the songs on AFD than on CD. But musically, musicians will find CD to be much more influential.

For these reasons, I truly honestly believe that CD is much better than AFD.

What do you think and why?

Dayze

Is that the 400 lb porn model that slash was sexting,during his seperation???

Also who decides who is allowed what?

I listen to AFD,UYs and CDs as well so why is there a problem??.

[curmudgeonrose7]

Track versus track is always illogical. It makes more sense to do the best songs versus the worst songs. I'm trying to figure a way to write just why it's illogical. I'm not the best at explaining things, which is why I could never be a teacher.

And yeah, it's based on luck. A song had the chance of being up against another song.

What the f*** are you talking about?

Okay dog. Let's try something different... Best track of Appetite for Destruction vs best track of Chinese Democracy.

The final showdown!

Sweet Child O' Mine vs There Was A Time

NO CONTEST! There Was A Time wins easily. Still now, Chinese Democracy wins.

How about we do worst track of Appetite for Destruction vs worst track of Chinese Democracy?

Anything Goes vs If The World

If The World is by far a greater song... So Chinese Democracy wins again.

I love both albums and I love Guns N Roses, but if we need to choose one album, it is proven that Chinese Democracy is the best album by GNR.

SCOM is one of the best songs ever.... Nuff said...

ITW isn't the weakest song off of CD either. It's all a matter of opinion as well....

I agree with you.

And you must agree that There Was A Time is THE GREATEST SONG OF ALL TIME

Hey which is the weakest song of Chinese Democracy in your opinion?

Edited September 4, 2011 by curmudgeonrose7

[Kill Devil Hill]

I like Chinese Democracy more than Appetite, too; I just thought your method didn't make sense.

I'd actually argue that Rocket Queen is the best of Appetite, and that TWAT would still beat it. Either way, it's all subjective. Some people will disagree with your choices. That's why it's fun to discuss things with people with different opinions.

[Coma16]

Tough to say what the weakest song is. I use to think that Catcher (and TIL) was but in the last few months it has actually become one of my favorites. That's the great thing about CD, there are no weak songs.

SR and Scraped are the ones I currently skip over most.

[Chewbacca]

I like Chinese Democracy more than Appetite, too; I just thought your method didn't make sense.

I'd actually argue that Rocket Queen is the best of Appetite, and that TWAT would still beat it. Either way, it's all subjective. Some people will disagree with your choices. That's why it's fun to discuss things with people with different opinions.

Yeah, RQ is my favorite song from AFD too, but I think that Better is the coolest song in CD, it's also my all time favorite Gn'R song.

[curmudgeonrose7]

So Album-wise, Chinese Democracy wins.

Says the member who joined a week ago.

CD is good.

But your conclusion and purpose on this board is fucking trolling.

I could say the same thing about you. But I won't, because you are not worthy of any more of my time.

I like Chinese Democracy more than Appetite, too; I just thought your method didn't make sense.

I'd actually argue that Rocket Queen is the best of Appetite, and that TWAT would still beat it. Either way, it's all subjective. Some people will disagree with your choices. That's why it's fun to discuss things with people with different opinions.

Yeah, RQ is my favorite song from AFD too, but I think that Better is the coolest song in CD, it's also my all time favorite Gn'R song.

Yeah guys! Rocket Queen and Better are amazing songs!

[curmudgeonrose7]

Hahaha. This thread is sucha joke it's not even funny.

What I love is how appetite was actually written and played by a band. They could talk and communicate. Everyone had an equal say. And I think that played A huge factor in it's success both critically and commercially.

Chinese was written and played by a revolving door of musicians. They spoke when spoken to, and one man at the end of the day had the final word. And I think that playe a HUGE factor of why it flopped.

Think the majority of fans would even care if they played anything off chinese ever again? Probably not. But you can bet fans would go APESHIT if they never played sweet child again. That's the everlasting impression appe.tite has left 24 years later. Chinese, as sad as some of you may view it, will be nothing more than a faded memory 24 years from now. That's why appetite accomplished so much more than chinese. It spoke and still speaks to people like very few rock albums can.

Are you intellectually disabled?

[Kill Devil Hill]

Bobbo's a pretty good poster. He's just so radical that it's easy to disagree with him, I think. I mean, he makes good enough points.

[sailaway]

Hahaha. This thread is sucha joke it's not even funny.

What I love is how appetite was actually written and played by a band. They could talk and communicate. Everyone had an equal say. And I think that played A huge factor in it's success both critically and commercially.

Chinese was written and played by a revolving door of musicians. They spoke when spoken to, and one man at the end of the day had the final word. And I think that playe a HUGE factor of why it flopped.

Think the majority of fans would even care if they played anything off chinese ever again? Probably not. But you can bet fans would go APESHIT if they never played sweet child again. That's the everlasting impression appe.tite has left 24 years later. Chinese, as sad as some of you may view it, will be nothing more than a faded memory 24 years from now. That's why appetite accomplished so much more than chinese. It spoke and still speaks to people like very few rock albums can.

Yeah,BoBo because you were there during the AFD sessions,and were magically aware of the vibes emitting

Axl was the most talented then as well as now

I like all the GNR albums,and along with queen. Boston, elton, WASP,etctoo many to list I have freedom of listening to all GNRs without engaging in a Bitch fight .

[Coma16]

Hahaha. This thread is sucha joke it's not even funny.

What I love is how appetite was actually written and played by a band. They could talk and communicate. Everyone had an equal say. And I think that played A huge factor in it's success both critically and commercially.

Chinese was written and played by a revolving door of musicians. They spoke when spoken to, and one man at the end of the day had the final word. And I think that playe a HUGE factor of why it flopped.

Think the majority of fans would even care if they played anything off chinese ever again? Probably not. But you can bet fans would go APESHIT if they never played sweet child again. That's the everlasting impression appe.tite has left 24 years later. Chinese, as sad as some of you may view it, will be nothing more than a faded memory 24 years from now. That's why appetite accomplished so much more than chinese. It spoke and still speaks to people like very few rock albums can.

You must not have been to a concert recently. Fans actually go APESHIT whenever a CD is played.

[Chewbacca]

Hahaha. This thread is sucha joke it's not even funny.

What I love is how appetite was actually written and played by a band. They could talk and communicate. Everyone had an equal say. And I think that played A huge factor in it's success both critically and commercially.

Chinese was written and played by a revolving door of musicians. They spoke when spoken to, and one man at the end of the day had the final word. And I think that playe a HUGE factor of why it flopped.

Think the majority of fans would even care if they played anything off chinese ever again? Probably not. But you can bet fans would go APESHIT if they never played sweet child again. That's the everlasting impression appe.tite has left 24 years later. Chinese, as sad as some of you may view it, will be nothing more than a faded memory 24 years from now. That's why appetite accomplished so much more than chinese. It spoke and still speaks to people like very few rock albums can.

You must not have been to a concert recently. Fans actually go APESHIT whenever a CD is played.

I sure do.

[sailaway]

Hahaha. This thread is sucha joke it's not even funny.

What I love is how appetite was actually written and played by a band. They could talk and communicate. Everyone had an equal say. And I think that played A huge factor in it's success both critically and commercially.

Chinese was written and played by a revolving door of musicians. They spoke when spoken to, and one man at the end of the day had the final word. And I think that playe a HUGE factor of why it flopped.

Think the majority of fans would even care if they played anything off chinese ever again? Probably not. But you can bet fans would go APESHIT if they never played sweet child again. That's the everlasting impression appe.tite has left 24 years later. Chinese, as sad as some of you may view it, will be nothing more than a faded memory 24 years from now. That's why appetite accomplished so much more than chinese. It spoke and still speaks to people like very few rock albums can.

You must not have been to a concert recently. Fans actually go APESHIT whenever a CD is played.

BoBo has never been to a concert!! But he is here throwing his RW cents in,what a

[Guest siliconmessiah]

Come on...you cannot even compare these two records in terms of impact.

AFD was for the masses - CD was for the gnr-fans.

CD was the most shitty way of release ever made, it was a fucking disgrace to everyone, and for the band.

The record we fans was waiting on, were at least 4 years late and amazingly overproduced.

Although, I love CD. Everyone I know hate it.

But don´t you try to stop us now.

Edited September 4, 2011 by siliconmessiah

[curmudgeonrose7]

Come on...you cannot even compare these two records in terms of impact.

AFD was for the masses - CD was for the gnr-fans.

CD was the most shitty way of release ever made, it was a fucking disgrace to everyone, and for the band.

The record we fans was waiting on, were at least 4 years late and amazingly overproduced.

Although, I love CD. Everyone I know hate it.

But don´t you try to stop us now.

Hey man, it don't really matter. Guess we'll keep it to ourselves.

[Kill Devil Hill]

Come on...you cannot even compare these two records in terms of impact.

AFD was for the masses - CD was for the gnr-fans.

CD was the most shitty way of release ever made, it was a fucking disgrace to everyone, and for the band.

The record we fans was waiting on, were at least 4 years late and amazingly overproduced.

Although, I love CD. Everyone I know hate it.

But don´t you try to stop us now.

That was my point. AFD had the most impact, while CD was just a nice and artsy album.

As far as taste goes, some people like certain styles. All my favorite albums are experimental. A lot of people hate those kinds of albums. That's another reason why Appetite could be preferred to CD. It's got a little more universal appeal. Appetite was hard rock "done right." Chinese is in another world.

I'm just rambling now, but whatever.

Oh, and I just wanted to say Silicon Messiah is a freaking amazing album. Off topic, but I was listening to it when SM posted just now, so I had to say it.

[sailaway]

Come on...you cannot even compare these two records in terms of impact.

AFD was for the masses - CD was for the gnr-fans.

CD was the most shitty way of release ever made, it was a fucking disgrace to everyone, and for the band.

The record we fans was waiting on, were at least 4 years late and amazingly overproduced.

Although, I love CD. Everyone I know hate it.

But don´t you try to stop us now.

get new friends!!!

Yeah there was glitch after glitch getting the album fucking promoted ,contrast the all out catchy expos that Kmart put out for Black Ice

Also,why in the Hell did it have to ne an exclusive? Wasn't what that album deserved!

[Kill Devil Hill]

Come on...you cannot even compare these two records in terms of impact.

AFD was for the masses - CD was for the gnr-fans.

CD was the most shitty way of release ever made, it was a fucking disgrace to everyone, and for the band.

The record we fans was waiting on, were at least 4 years late and amazingly overproduced.

Although, I love CD. Everyone I know hate it.

But don´t you try to stop us now.

get new friends!!!

Yeah there was glitch after glitch getting the album fucking promoted ,contrast the all out catchy expos that Kmart put out for Black Ice

Also,why in the Hell did it have to ne an exclusive? Wasn't what that album deserved!

Uh, isn't that exactly what siliconmessiah was saying? The release was handled disgustingly poorly. It's a shame, really. Such a good album definitely doesn't deserve that treatment.

[curmudgeonrose7]

Come on...you cannot even compare these two records in terms of impact.

AFD was for the masses - CD was for the gnr-fans.

CD was the most shitty way of release ever made, it was a fucking disgrace to everyone, and for the band.

The record we fans was waiting on, were at least 4 years late and amazingly overproduced.

Although, I love CD. Everyone I know hate it.

But don´t you try to stop us now.

get new friends!!!

Yeah there was glitch after glitch getting the album fucking promoted ,contrast the all out catchy expos that Kmart put out for Black Ice

Also,why in the Hell did it have to ne an exclusive? Wasn't what that album deserved!

Uh, isn't that exactly what siliconmessiah was saying? The release was handled disgustingly poorly. It's a shame, really. Such a good album definitely doesn't deserve that treatment.

Blame it on the Falun Gong!