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http://delcotimes.com/articles/2011/12/02/entertainment/doc4ed8fe8a49853515374724.txt

By MICHAEL CHRISTOPHER

Rockmusicmenu@hotmail.com

Twenty years. That’s how long it has taken the latest incarnation of Guns N’ Roses to make its way back to the region. Better late than never was the vibe at the Susquehanna Bank Center in Camden last Saturday where fans were treated to a mixed bag of nostalgia, absurdity and shame.

There was no riot, as frontman Axl Rose turned up — unlike the no-show turned riot at the First Union Center in December 2002, which wasn’t even mentioned, alluded to or apologized for this time around. On the flipside, nor was it the endless burst of energy and air of unpredictability that filled the scorching mid-December two-night stand at the Spectrum in 1991.

Guns went on 11 p.m. on the dot Saturday, which makes the going-on-late game by Axl appear to be more of a controlled standard these days. The start time is also easier to digest when you get a three-hour concert out of it, but when a majority of the audience is fast-approaching middle age; it still puts a damper on things, which was probably why there were spates of mass-exiting throughout the set.

The song selection was hard to argue with; opening with the title track to the long awaited “Chinese Democracy,” it was “Welcome to the Jungle” that followed it which had the audience really paying attention. Newer tracks were sprinkled sparingly throughout a run of classics that included “Nightrain,” “Rocket Queen,” “Don’t Cry” and “Mr. Brownstone.”

The high point was “Estranged,” pulled from “Use Your Illusion II,” an epic ballad that might be the best in the band’s catalog. Breaking out AC/DC’s “Whole Lotta Rosie” wasn’t too shabby; neither was doing seven tracks from one of the greatest debuts in history, “Appetite for Destruction.”

Looking less-like the Los Angeles sleaze of yore and more like a Sunset Strip pimp, Rose was in fine form both vocally and in enthusiasm. Zooming back and forth across the stage, he was outfitted in an ever-changing array of fedoras, leather jackets and sunglasses that came off just once.

Detracting from a complete command over the crowd was his frequent dashes to a tent set up at stage left, which is where the singer’s oxygen is rumored to be housed. I lost count somewhere around 50, but the continued disappearing act led a fellow concert attendee to remark that maybe Axl wasn’t getting hits of oxygen, but actually watching a show on the Oxygen channel.

He certainly had the time for it, as there were bloated solo spots for each member of the band. Three guitarists meant three solos. Bass player Tommy Stinson sang a cover of “Sonic Reducer” by Dead Boys. Pianist Dizzy Reed did a version of The Who’s “Baba O’Reily.” Rose himself did a piano solo where he dropped in snippets of Elton John classics. There were also four completely unnecessary instrumental jams.

Suddenly, three hours looks less like an impressive show of endurance and more of a cumbersome effort to stretch things to the breaking point, for instance, the growing number of yawns from concertgoers whose interest was waning with each spot.

DJ Ashba, who also plays guitar in Motley Crue bassist Nikki Sixx’s Sixx A.M. project, ran around the stage with a fair amount of animation. He also sports a mini-version of a top-hat and perpetually has a cigarette dangling from his lips. Sound familiar? That’s probably why more than one person was overheard referring to him as “Fake Slash,” “Wannabe Slash” “DJ Slashba” and “Slash Junior.” Ashba also broke the cardinal rule by wearing a Guns N’ Roses t-shirt. The Hot Topic fingerless skull gloves didn’t help matters either.

Guitarist Ron “Bumblefoot” Thal was the worst offender though. His mannerisms oozed with an alarming amount of inauthenticity. During “Live and Let Die,” he actually ran to the back of the stage where the flash pots were spouting fire and posed for a picture for the band photographer in the wings, turning his back to the crowd. Talk about fabricated moves; but it’ll look great in the resume for future gigs. When it was time for the solo for “Sweet Child O’ Mine,” Bumblefoot had his eyes closed, ostensibly lost in the feel of the moment, opened them briefly to peek at the reaction he was getting then quickly shut them again, disparaging the atmosphere.

Add that to his continuous tongue in cheek, staggered mock guitar god stances and endless beard stroking, it’s obvious that Thal is in it for the paycheck, and he does it with zero feel and the charisma of a soapdish.

It wasn’t all bad, as former Love Spit Love guitarist Richard Fortus either faked it the best or legitimately had his heart in the proceedings. His energy never abated, he was like an animated fireball, and if there ever is any sort of original Guns N’ Roses reunion, Izzy Stradlin would probably decline to take part and Fortus should be the go to replacement.

But the more the show went on, the more it was clear that this was like a Guns N’ Roses revue, similar to what a bunch of the old-Motown acts do where there is one or less founding member representing. Many in the audience were there for the curiosity element, which leaves the future of the outfit very much in doubt — because there certainly isn’t enough chemistry to sustain any long term interest.

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By MICHAEL CHRISTOPHER

Rockmusicmenu@hotmail.com

Twenty years. That's how long it has taken the latest incarnation of Guns N' Roses to make its way back to the region. Better late than never was the vibe at the Susquehanna Bank Center in Camden last Saturday where fans were treated to a mixed bag of nostalgia, absurdity and shame.

There was no riot, as frontman Axl Rose turned up — unlike the no-show turned riot at the First Union Center in December 2002, which wasn't even mentioned, alluded to or apologized for this time around. On the flipside, nor was it the endless burst of energy and air of unpredictability that filled the scorching mid-December two-night stand at the Spectrum in 1991.

Guns went on 11 p.m. on the dot Saturday, which makes the going-on-late game by Axl appear to be more of a controlled standard these days. The start time is also easier to digest when you get a three-hour concert out of it, but when a majority of the audience is fast-approaching middle age; it still puts a damper on things, which was probably why there were spates of mass-exiting throughout the set.

The song selection was hard to argue with; opening with the title track to the long awaited "Chinese Democracy," it was "Welcome to the Jungle" that followed it which had the audience really paying attention. Newer tracks were sprinkled sparingly throughout a run of classics that included "Nightrain," "Rocket Queen," "Don't Cry" and "Mr. Brownstone."

The high point was "Estranged," pulled from "Use Your Illusion II," an epic ballad that might be the best in the band's catalog. Breaking out AC/DC's "Whole Lotta Rosie" wasn't too shabby; neither was doing seven tracks from one of the greatest debuts in history, "Appetite for Destruction."

Looking less-like the Los Angeles sleaze of yore and more like a Sunset Strip pimp, Rose was in fine form both vocally and in enthusiasm. Zooming back and forth across the stage, he was outfitted in an ever-changing array of fedoras, leather jackets and sunglasses that came off just once.

Detracting from a complete command over the crowd was his frequent dashes to a tent set up at stage left, which is where the singer's oxygen is rumored to be housed. I lost count somewhere around 50, but the continued disappearing act led a fellow concert attendee to remark that maybe Axl wasn't getting hits of oxygen, but actually watching a show on the Oxygen channel.

He certainly had the time for it, as there were bloated solo spots for each member of the band. Three guitarists meant three solos. Bass player Tommy Stinson sang a cover of "Sonic Reducer" by Dead Boys. Pianist Dizzy Reed did a version of The Who's "Baba O'Reily." Rose himself did a piano solo where he dropped in snippets of Elton John classics. There were also four completely unnecessary instrumental jams.

Suddenly, three hours looks less like an impressive show of endurance and more of a cumbersome effort to stretch things to the breaking point, for instance, the growing number of yawns from concertgoers whose interest was waning with each spot.

DJ Ashba, who also plays guitar in Motley Crue bassist Nikki Sixx's Sixx A.M. project, ran around the stage with a fair amount of animation. He also sports a mini-version of a top-hat and perpetually has a cigarette dangling from his lips. Sound familiar? That's probably why more than one person was overheard referring to him as "Fake Slash," "Wannabe Slash" "DJ Slashba" and "Slash Junior." Ashba also broke the cardinal rule by wearing a Guns N' Roses t-shirt. The Hot Topic fingerless skull gloves didn't help matters either.

Guitarist Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal was the worst offender though. His mannerisms oozed with an alarming amount of inauthenticity. During "Live and Let Die," he actually ran to the back of the stage where the flash pots were spouting fire and posed for a picture for the band photographer in the wings, turning his back to the crowd. Talk about fabricated moves; but it'll look great in the resume for future gigs. When it was time for the solo for "Sweet Child O' Mine," Bumblefoot had his eyes closed, ostensibly lost in the feel of the moment, opened them briefly to peek at the reaction he was getting then quickly shut them again, disparaging the atmosphere.

Add that to his continuous tongue in cheek, staggered mock guitar god stances and endless beard stroking, it's obvious that Thal is in it for the paycheck, and he does it with zero feel and the charisma of a soapdish.

It wasn't all bad, as former Love Spit Love guitarist Richard Fortus either faked it the best or legitimately had his heart in the proceedings. His energy never abated, he was like an animated fireball, and if there ever is any sort of original Guns N' Roses reunion, Izzy Stradlin would probably decline to take part and Fortus should be the go to replacement.

But the more the show went on, the more it was clear that this was like a Guns N' Roses revue, similar to what a bunch of the old-Motown acts do where there is one or less founding member representing. Many in the audience were there for the curiosity element, which leaves the future of the outfit very much in doubt — because there certainly isn't enough chemistry to sustain any long term interest.

The inaccuracies of this article are alarming and I could easily rip it apart if I feel like spending the next 20 minutes trying to - but I've learned that it's just best to let these things dimmer away as they are nothing but an obviously biased view.

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This fuckstick is getting an e-mail. He must not have been paying any attention to the crowd except for the negative douchers whose opinions were changed during the show. Also, he must not know that BBF got into a car accident and is in immense pain every fucking day right now. Jesus Christ the ignorance of this mongoloid is infuriating!

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This fuckstick is getting an e-mail. He must not have been paying any attention to the crowd except for the negative douchers whose opinions were changed during the show. Also, he must not know that BBF got into a car accident and is in immense pain every fucking day right now. Jesus Christ the ignorance of this mongoloid is infuriating!

comparing him to mongoloid's is just insulting mongoloids.

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This fuckstick is getting an e-mail. He must not have been paying any attention to the crowd except for the negative douchers whose opinions were changed during the show. Also, he must not know that BBF got into a car accident and is in immense pain every fucking day right now. Jesus Christ the ignorance of this mongoloid is infuriating!

It's not ignorance, it's a guy holding a grudge. The second paragraph made it very clear he was going to trash the performance no matter what. That's the mentality of many who reside in the Philly area, they don't let things go. They'd rather remain bitter about 2002 than praise an amazing performance in 2011.

It reminds me of an editorial earlier this year in the Philadelphia Inquirer, in which readers were told "You'll get one more chance to let J.D. know how you feel about him when the Sox come to town June 28-30. Get your D-cells ready." Thirteen years after JD decided not to sign with the Phillies, and they still can't get over it. Yup, that's Philly.

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This fuckstick is getting an e-mail. He must not have been paying any attention to the crowd except for the negative douchers whose opinions were changed during the show. Also, he must not know that BBF got into a car accident and is in immense pain every fucking day right now. Jesus Christ the ignorance of this mongoloid is infuriating!

It's not ignorance, it's a guy holding a grudge. The second paragraph made it very clear he was going to trash the performance no matter what. That's the mentality of many who reside in the Philly area, they don't let things go. They'd rather remain bitter about 2002 than praise an amazing performance in 2011.

It reminds me of an editorial earlier this year in the Philadelphia Inquirer, in which readers were told "You'll get one more chance to let J.D. know how you feel about him when the Sox come to town June 28-30. Get your D-cells ready." Thirteen years after JD decided not to sign with the Phillies, and they still can't get over it. Yup, that's Philly.

That's the philly press, i think, moreso than the actual fans. Either way this guys' a deingus.

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This fuckstick is getting an e-mail. He must not have been paying any attention to the crowd except for the negative douchers whose opinions were changed during the show. Also, he must not know that BBF got into a car accident and is in immense pain every fucking day right now. Jesus Christ the ignorance of this mongoloid is infuriating!

That's just a guy who clearly has an agenda. I don't think anyone who is actually a fan of them, or even borderline is going to be swayed by something like this.

It's kind of like Sean Hannity or Michael Moore... You either agree with them and jerk off all over yourself when they talk, or you think they are fucking stupid and tune out. It's pandering, it doesn't change anyones opinion.

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This fuckstick is getting an e-mail. He must not have been paying any attention to the crowd except for the negative douchers whose opinions were changed during the show. Also, he must not know that BBF got into a car accident and is in immense pain every fucking day right now. Jesus Christ the ignorance of this mongoloid is infuriating!

That's just a guy who clearly has an agenda. I don't think anyone who is actually a fan of them, or even borderline is going to be swayed by something like this.

It's kind of like Sean Hannity or Michael Moore... You either agree with them and jerk off all over yourself when they talk, or you think they are fucking stupid and tune out. It's pandering, it doesn't change anyones opinion.

lol i like than analogy. I do that with one of the two you mentioned (won't say which), but at least I realize it unlike a lot of people.

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