gunsfanoldie Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 I can't think of another performer that would be able to get away with the stuff Axl does. Why when someone throws a shirt at Axl am I afraid of him ending the show? Obviously anyone else could do that if they got upset but either no one does or its certainly not as frequent. But why did Axl never have to change? You'd think at some point all the cancellations and arguments he's started would eventually affect attendance, etc.Personally, if someone threw a shirt at Tom Petty, or really just name anyone, I don't think it would get me afraid that the show was about to end. I know I'll probably get a bunch of joke answers but its something I'm actually curious about. I know Axl's awesome but that just doesn't seem like enough to sustain that reason for almost 25 years.
Young_Gun Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) I can't think of another performer that would be able to get away with the stuff Axl does. Why when someone throws a shirt at Axl am I afraid of him ending the show? Obviously anyone else could do that if they got upset but either no one does or its certainly not as frequent. But why did Axl never have to change? You'd think at some point all the cancellations and arguments he's started would eventually affect attendance, etc.Personally, if someone threw a shirt at Tom Petty, or really just name anyone, I don't think it would get me afraid that the show was about to end. I know I'll probably get a bunch of joke answers but its something I'm actually curious about. I know Axl's awesome but that just doesn't seem like enough to sustain that reason for almost 25 years.Like it or not, he does do things his way. Maybe early on before they were signed he wasn't as drastic or fussy about it, but with all the accolades and success he has had, he probably doesn't really care about the consequences. Edited November 28, 2011 by Young_Gun
cineater Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 Some people never let go of the past and in Axl's case it's larger than the truth.
Coma16 Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 Since the tour started in 2009 he only attempted to walk off once in Ireland. And he came back on and sang the hell out of the songs. You gotta get out of the past man...
Guest gunns5 Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 I can't think of another performer that would be able to get away with the stuff Axl does. Why when someone throws a shirt at Axl am I afraid of him ending the show? Obviously anyone else could do that if they got upset but either no one does or its certainly not as frequent. But why did Axl never have to change? You'd think at some point all the cancellations and arguments he's started would eventually affect attendance, etc.Personally, if someone threw a shirt at Tom Petty, or really just name anyone, I don't think it would get me afraid that the show was about to end. I know I'll probably get a bunch of joke answers but its something I'm actually curious about. I know Axl's awesome but that just doesn't seem like enough to sustain that reason for almost 25 years.Like it or not, he does do things his way. Maybe early on before they were signed he wasn't as drastic or fussy about it, but with all the accolades and success he has had, he probably doesn't really care about the consequences.well said , he gets away with it cause he doesn't give a fuck what the repercussions are as long as it's his decision in the matter.It might no always work out in his interest but he does things his way.
RussTCB Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 I can't think of another performer that would be able to get away with the stuff Axl does. Why when someone throws a shirt at Axl am I afraid of him ending the show? Obviously anyone else could do that if they got upset but either no one does or its certainly not as frequent. But why did Axl never have to change? You'd think at some point all the cancellations and arguments he's started would eventually affect attendance, etc.Personally, if someone threw a shirt at Tom Petty, or really just name anyone, I don't think it would get me afraid that the show was about to end. I know I'll probably get a bunch of joke answers but its something I'm actually curious about. I know Axl's awesome but that just doesn't seem like enough to sustain that reason for almost 25 years.Because throwing anything at anyone while they're doing their job is unacceptable. Just because other performers put up with it, doesn't mean Axl should.
The Black Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 Personally, I love the music enough to want to see it performed live. And I think that's the key reason for most people.
gunsfanoldie Posted November 28, 2011 Author Posted November 28, 2011 Personally, I love the music enough to want to see it performed live. And I think that's the key reason for most people.I agree and thats not really what I'm saying. I was there the other night just asking myself "how does he get away with some of the shit he does?" Not saying he's wrong or anything, I just find it so interesting that he's such a unique case. You'd think eventually it'd piss enough people off but amazingly he's still going strong in terms of audience sales, etc. Just a thought that ran through my head.
The Black Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 Personally, I love the music enough to want to see it performed live. And I think that's the key reason for most people.I agree and thats not really what I'm saying. I was there the other night just asking myself "how does he get away with some of the shit he does?" Not saying he's wrong or anything, I just find it so interesting that he's such a unique case. You'd think eventually it'd piss enough people off but amazingly he's still going strong in terms of audience sales, etc. Just a thought that ran through my head.To be honest, he does really piss me off like no other artist I listen to, simply because of his behaviour. Love the music, loathe the attitude.But I do think that the popularity has sunk to some extent because of all of this. While I would buy a ticket, I know enough people who'd refuse to because of all of this drama.Should the original Guns N Roses ever reunite, I'm sure alot of people would reconsider not buying a ticket though
Young_Gun Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 I can't think of another performer that would be able to get away with the stuff Axl does. Why when someone throws a shirt at Axl am I afraid of him ending the show? Obviously anyone else could do that if they got upset but either no one does or its certainly not as frequent. But why did Axl never have to change? You'd think at some point all the cancellations and arguments he's started would eventually affect attendance, etc.Personally, if someone threw a shirt at Tom Petty, or really just name anyone, I don't think it would get me afraid that the show was about to end. I know I'll probably get a bunch of joke answers but its something I'm actually curious about. I know Axl's awesome but that just doesn't seem like enough to sustain that reason for almost 25 years.Like it or not, he does do things his way. Maybe early on before they were signed he wasn't as drastic or fussy about it, but with all the accolades and success he has had, he probably doesn't really care about the consequences.well said , he gets away with it cause he doesn't give a fuck what the repercussions are as long as it's his decision in the matter.It might no always work out in his interest but he does things his way.I do admire what he does. Even though the late starts DO suck, he is remaining 150% true to himself, which is VERY scarce. Truly the last real rockstar...
gunsfanoldie Posted November 28, 2011 Author Posted November 28, 2011 Personally, I love the music enough to want to see it performed live. And I think that's the key reason for most people.I agree and thats not really what I'm saying. I was there the other night just asking myself "how does he get away with some of the shit he does?" Not saying he's wrong or anything, I just find it so interesting that he's such a unique case. You'd think eventually it'd piss enough people off but amazingly he's still going strong in terms of audience sales, etc. Just a thought that ran through my head.To be honest, he does really piss me off like no other artist I listen to, simply because of his behaviour. Love the music, loathe the attitude.But I do think that the popularity has sunk to some extent because of all of this. While I would buy a ticket, I know enough people who'd refuse to because of all of this drama.Should the original Guns N Roses ever reunite, I'm sure alot of people would reconsider not buying a ticket though Well thats obvious. But yes, your point is exactly what I mean. My dad is a big fan but he's older now and doesn't have enough of a care to see Axl nowadays. He liked about half of Chinese Democracy and I could give him a setlist that I know he'd enjoy. But when he asked "So how long did he keep you waiting? Did he even show up?" last night after my show, it pretty much said it all. Its a joke, but theres definitely some truth to it.Again, not saying Axl should change or anything. This is one of the things I love about him. But its just interesting that with the general public that always seem so fickle and bitch about the late starts and cancellations and stuff, they still end up going. I don't think there are many other bands/fans like that.
Cosmo Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 With Axl, you never know IF he's showing up, WHAT TIME he's showing up, and IF you'll get to experience the full concert. There was this asshole with a green laser a few people behind me in RiR, and he kept pointing it at Axl. I actually blocked the laser with my hands 'cause I know that might piss Axl off and he might end the show or something. In 2010, people were throwing so much stuff I was sure he'd interrupt CD, thank God he didn't.
GnRDuff1 Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 Personally, I love the music enough to want to see it performed live. And I think that's the key reason for most people.I agree and thats not really what I'm saying. I was there the other night just asking myself "how does he get away with some of the shit he does?" Not saying he's wrong or anything, I just find it so interesting that he's such a unique case. You'd think eventually it'd piss enough people off but amazingly he's still going strong in terms of audience sales, etc. Just a thought that ran through my head.To be honest, he does really piss me off like no other artist I listen to, simply because of his behaviour. Love the music, loathe the attitude.But I do think that the popularity has sunk to some extent because of all of this. While I would buy a ticket, I know enough people who'd refuse to because of all of this drama.Should the original Guns N Roses ever reunite, I'm sure alot of people would reconsider not buying a ticket though Well thats obvious. But yes, your point is exactly what I mean. My dad is a big fan but he's older now and doesn't have enough of a care to see Axl nowadays. He liked about half of Chinese Democracy and I could give him a setlist that I know he'd enjoy. But when he asked "So how long did he keep you waiting? Did he even show up?" last night after my show, it pretty much said it all. Its a joke, but theres definitely some truth to it.Again, not saying Axl should change or anything. This is one of the things I love about him. But its just interesting that with the general public that always seem so fickle and bitch about the late starts and cancellations and stuff, they still end up going. I don't think there are many other bands/fans like that.I've accepted the late starts and all the Axl drama as stuff that goes on with seeing one of, if not the, best performances in rock that's not based around a goofy gimmick (GWAR). I'm also not one of the people who bitch about it the whole time before the show starts. That sort of gets me aggravated more than anything. If you're going, just take it in stride. I was the long haired fellow in front of you, oldie. I'm pretty pro-Axl, but I think it's that he is one of the last guys still doing in things his way or the highway. I personally respect that
The Black Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) Axl is not the only performer that shows up late to shows or will stop a show because things are being thrown on stage.Please name another artist or band that is/are consistently late going on stage. Edited November 28, 2011 by The Black
Coma16 Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 Axl is not the only performer that shows up late to shows or will stop a show because things are being thrown on stage.Please name another artist or band that is/are consistently late going on stage.Mariah Carrey and Rihanna (that's 2)
The Black Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 Axl is not the only performer that shows up late to shows or will stop a show because things are being thrown on stage.Please name another artist or band that is/are consistently late going on stage.Mariah Carrey and Rihanna (that's 2)And now an act with some credibility
axlskAmpf Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 Q: Why is Axl able to get away with it?A: Carries this in wallet since childhood.
Liquor & Whores Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 As Axl once said: This is not Burger King or McDonald's. It ain't 'have it your way'.In other words: you either accept it, or fuck off.
ironmt Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 I can't think of another performer that would be able to get away with the stuff Axl does. Why when someone throws a shirt at Axl am I afraid of him ending the show? Obviously anyone else could do that if they got upset but either no one does or its certainly not as frequent. But why did Axl never have to change? You'd think at some point all the cancellations and arguments he's started would eventually affect attendance, etc.Personally, if someone threw a shirt at Tom Petty, or really just name anyone, I don't think it would get me afraid that the show was about to end. I know I'll probably get a bunch of joke answers but its something I'm actually curious about. I know Axl's awesome but that just doesn't seem like enough to sustain that reason for almost 25 years.Unfortunatley he Isnt getting away with It. On the Illusions tour they would play In front of 20-70,000 people and today they are playing to 5-10,000 people. Its unfortunate because this band Is more than amazing live and have the potential to play to much bigger crowds.
dalsh327 Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 On the lateness - it affects the audience that go Sun-Thursday nights. On what sets him off - the down side is that 1 or 2 people want to taunt Axl and cause a riot, but in general, he's prob. been hit pretty good in the past and kept the show going.
Meanmachine22 Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) ... because he is, repeat HE FUCKIN' IS the last man standing from an army that was used to be called ' greatest frontmen in the universe'His way or no way! Whether you like it or not but you gotta give him credit for this.Get with me or get the fuck outta my way seems to be his attitude and for fucks sake he is right! Edited November 28, 2011 by Meanmachine22
batman007 Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 I once threw a cap to Ed the lead singer of Collective Soul and he stopped the song, and said dont fn throw shit or I will leave. He got pissed! He said he doesnt know what is flying his way.
Chewbacca Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 I can't think of another performer that would be able to get away with the stuff Axl does. Why when someone throws a shirt at Axl am I afraid of him ending the show? Obviously anyone else could do that if they got upset but either no one does or its certainly not as frequent. But why did Axl never have to change? You'd think at some point all the cancellations and arguments he's started would eventually affect attendance, etc.Personally, if someone threw a shirt at Tom Petty, or really just name anyone, I don't think it would get me afraid that the show was about to end. I know I'll probably get a bunch of joke answers but its something I'm actually curious about. I know Axl's awesome but that just doesn't seem like enough to sustain that reason for almost 25 years.Like it or not, he does do things his way. Maybe early on before they were signed he wasn't as drastic or fussy about it, but with all the accolades and success he has had, he probably doesn't really care about the consequences.Exactly.
TrixAreForKids Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 When you become the greatest front man of all time then you'll know the answer to your question.
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